Re: [tdf-discuss] Suggestion

2011-01-19 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/2011 09:17 PM, Andy Brown wrote: Why add something more to bloat the package when an extension already exist? Probably because the person wants something that works. And the extension you suggest does not work.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Foundation Fundraising

2011-02-07 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/07/2011 01:27 PM, drew wrote: A requirement to have to have a US bank account in order to receive funds is not the same thing as saying the money must be dispersed in the US only, is it? No. A couple of things to do, before setting up

Re: [tdf-discuss] Foundation Fundraising

2011-02-09 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/08/2011 04:36 PM, BRM wrote: Why resort to deception and Microsoft-esque tactics to promote LO? FWIW, it isn't uncommon for 501(c)3 organizations to have a for-profit organization operating at an arm's length. Microsoft-esque only if you

Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org articles in Linux Format March 2011

2011-02-11 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/02/2011 13:03, Christophe Strobbe wrote: 3. Implement grammar checking. This is one of the most requested features for OOo. It also has been available since OOo 1.1.3, for half a dozen languages. In all instances, you are better off using

Re: [tdf-discuss] How difficult is it to port Libreoffice to the Android Tablets? Is there any plan yet?

2011-03-04 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/2011 10:38, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Seeing as android is linux based, i honestly dont think it would be that hard. Browsing through the Android Store, I found two apps that claimed to be be able to edit ODF files. One of them relies on

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS

2011-04-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2011 00:05, MiguelAngel wrote: to waste the efforts to get Libo or OOo runing in Android or similar, and use in a four-six inches windows, for to do what? My little android device has more RAM, more file storage space, a faster chip, and

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS

2011-04-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/04/2011 22:11, Denny wrote: When pointing out competitors, there are a lot more I think. One I would add to the list is Softmaker Office (http://www.softmaker.com) Looking at the app marketplace for my Android device. * Documents To Go;

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2011 14:56, Mike Hall wrote: long documents, I personally came across only 2 instances of genuine MSO bugs. I guess it is a feature that when I used MSO 2010 with Win7, the mean time till seeing the BSOD was under 100 seconds. I guess it is

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS

2011-04-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2011 10:59, Jaime R. Garza wrote: I have a statement from Thinkfree, that they will support ODF in the next version. I'll believe that _after_ the next version is released. With ThinkFree, their claims and the actuality are, in my

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2011 21:23, Robert Derman wrote: My prime example, the word list in the spell checker is PATHETIC!!! It is fairly easy to toss out the built in spell checker, and replace it with something that is more suitable for your organization's

Re: [tdf-discuss] Feature Request: Capitalizing Letters:

2011-04-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2011 07:59, lj wrote: Capitalizing Letters in LibreOffice. Format Change Case Options are: * Sentence Case; * Lower Case; * Upper Case; * Capitalize Every Word. (This should be renamed to Title Case); * Toggle Case; * Half Width; * Full

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-08 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/04/2011 11:58, aqualung wrote: that with MSO97 on Win2K mean time to BSOD was just on 60 minutes. That's odd. Don't have MSO 2010, but with MSO 2007 under Windows 7 I have It doesn't matter which version of windows with which version of MSO

Re: [tdf-discuss] LO OO are not the only competitors of MSOffice... LO could also make a simple office suite that runs in Android iOS

2011-04-08 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2011 18:19, Jaime R. Garza wrote: http://tomtasche.at/p/OpenOffice%20Document%20Reader#article That program has not opened any of my ODT documents. Reading the marketplace comments, it looks like it can only open documents that are

Re: [tdf-discuss] European Commitee enter talks with MS licences, Please make your action today against it.

2011-04-23 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22/04/2011 03:40, Jon Hamkins wrote: There are roughly one billion words in the English language. You could Actually, there are only about one million English words in English, and You are right. That billion words is the size of the corpus

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/04/2011 03:29, Larry Gusaas wrote: Someone makes money any time an ad is clicked on. That is contrary to the spirit of using open source software. Open Source Software is about LIBRE. Gratis is completely and utterly irrelevant to FLOSS.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-25 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/04/2011 08:44, Christian Lohmaier wrote: It is OK if it has a paypal or whatever donate link to explicitly cover the costs of running the server (but it must be clear that this You do realize that the organization that puts up the donation

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Forums... again

2011-04-29 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/04/2011 16:03, Ian Lynch wrote: Those reliant of distant web servers without no knowledge of data security employed by service providers are being naive. Most people are not going to worry about it if it works for them and is more

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/2011 15:25, Jim Jagielski wrote: now options open and available to LOo and OOo that, until a week ago did not exist. Maybe some of those long-term The major, if not only option is that one can now contribute code directly to IBM, which

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/2011 15:00, Jim Jagielski wrote: A formal, legal foundation. The ASF is a recognized 501(c)3, non- TDF might not have 501(c)(3) status, but then consider that it is incorporated in Germany, not the United States. More pointedly, the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/2011 10:48, Sam Ruby wrote: of the code that they are willing to share the burden of maintenance with the larger community. You do realize that IBM will _NOT_ contribute any code to Apache OpenOffice don't be. I have to wonder where the

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-06 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/06/2011 13:25, Jim Jagielski wrote: that his mind is made up, whether based on reality or not. The reality is that IBM employees wearing their IBM hats, have made it crystal clear on the general@incubator list that IBM is going to force The

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-08 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henri wrote: The circumstances being what they are, would not the best path for ASF to take(as seems to me to be the case) be to accept the grant (in the event Oracle is offering it *nulla condicione astrictus*) Assuming that Oracle is

Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-10 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2011 15:36, Florian Effenberger wrote: can review and incorporate them, at the same time translating into German for our lawyer. When I was reading German law on non-profits, my impression was the By-Laws had to specify how members of

Re: [tdf-discuss] Triple licensing?

2011-06-14 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/06/2011 15:31, Alexandro Colorado wrote: How exactly would that work. So far the discussion was about moving code around, but what about generating code for both? As a practical matter, the code would have to modified to work as expected

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control

2011-06-19 Thread toki
On 19/06/2011 11:34, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: Over at Apache, we found compliance quick and easy [1][2][3] I'm not sure compliance for LibO is as simple and straightforward as you imply. For starters, code, amongst other things, that is either from, or benefits users in North Korea, Cuba,

Re: Availability of source code (Was: Re: OFF TOPIC about GPL enforcement (Was: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice))

2011-06-19 Thread toki
On 18/06/2011 09:39, Simos Xenitellis wrote: The spirit does go well beyond the letter. Ideally, the 'git repositories' should be what everyone gets, rather than a source code snapshot that has no source change history. A couple of years ago I sent a question to FSF about meeting source code

Re: [tdf-discuss] New LibreOffice Reader Eliminates Need for PDF Reader

2011-06-24 Thread toki
On 24/06/2011 00:30, Antonio Olivares wrote: I like the idea, don't get me wrong. +1 it is hard for developers out there to make just a viewer when some other folks have that :( already. This is the type of project that might be more suitable for the Apache Software Foundation. My $0.04

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IAccessible2, IBM, Oracle (was: (...) Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice)

2011-07-28 Thread toki
On 07/28/2011 04:21 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: All that I see know for sure is that it took 5 years and the code still is not in the repo. IBM claims that since it was in an OOo 1.1.x branch, it was in the repo, and that it is Sun's fault that it wasn't incorporated into OOo 2.x, or OOo

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-30 Thread toki
On 07/30/2011 01:33 PM, e-letter wrote: Why wouldn't users simply keep an old version of m$? a) The old version of M$ won't run on their current operating system; b) The license for the old version of M$ expired; jonathon -- If Bing copied Google, there wouldn't be anything new worth

Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-30 Thread toki
On 07/30/2011 01:35 PM, e-letter wrote: Such people should be buying m$; Your false assumption is that M$ provides a version of MSO for the platform that is being used. if they cannot afford m$ why are they in business??? Possibilities include: * Startup; * The office-suite is a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Is Microsoft getting worried about free Office suites?

2011-12-01 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28/11/11 11:14, Pedro wrote: I'm wondering if the recent offer for download of the add supported limited edition of Microsoft Office Starter is a reaction to the improving quality Microsoft has been experimenting with various low-cost/no-cost to

Re: [tdf-discuss] Better PDF import?

2014-06-21 Thread Toki
On 6/21/2014 11:30 AM, Terrence Enger wrote: I have heard about OCR, OCR usually manages to remove all presentation markup. It can also remove sentence, and paragraph differentiators. From my POV, if the content is in PDF format, and the person needs another format, they can OCR it.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Released LibreOffice For Dummies v2

2016-05-13 Thread toki
On 12/05/2016 19:02, Joel Madero wrote: > would dedicate hundreds of hours (or thousands) for such a small amount of > money. If the cited amount was one thousand dollars, United States currency, then one is looking at the going rate on fiver for that size book. If the quoted amount was ten

RE: [tdf-discuss] Add FB2 to operate

2016-08-19 Thread toki
Корень Зла wrote: >add to writer this Open Book XML format for operate.Sometimes i need a Epub >and FB2 features in Write An extension which exports Write documents to FB2 can be found at http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/ooo-fbtools. The LibreOffice Extension site was down, so I

Re: [tdf-discuss] WPS Office native document files are officially supported in LibreOffice?

2016-11-08 Thread toki
On 08/11/2016 18:08, Hugo Alejandro wrote: > do you know if WPS Office documents are officially supported in LibreOffice? > Thank you Where does installing an extension that does the file import/export fit into the equation? jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [tdf-discuss] Libnreoffice Writer (3.x, 4.x, 5.x) on Linux looses font formt after repening document

2016-11-09 Thread toki
On 09/11/2016 11:54, GwenDragon wrote: > Please read Bug 35538 - "Writer does not remember formatting (font > selection) with complex font families" > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35538 I have a theory about why that bug occurs. Give me a couple of days to fix my laptop,

Re: [tdf-discuss] WPS Office native document files are officially supported in LibreOffice?

2016-11-09 Thread toki
On 09/11/2016 03:30, Hugo Alejandro wrote: >> Where does installing an extension that does the file import/export fit into the equation? > I don't understand what you mean by your question. There is an extension that transforms Write documents to one of the digital Braille formats, without

Re: [tdf-discuss] Libnreoffice Writer (3.x, 4.x, 5.x) on Linux looses font formt after repening document

2016-12-05 Thread toki
On 05/12/16 18:18, GwenDragon wrote: >> If I haven't posted anything on either Bugs.documentfoundation.org, or > Anything new for this issue? This is why I'm writing that font analysis addition. Learning C++ isn't as simple as I expected. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [steering-discuss] connecting external services to our domain

2011-01-20 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/20/2011 04:18 PM, David Nelson wrote: suggested to her to take team leadership of the LibreOffice docs teamI two times in the past. But she's very much occupied with odfauthors. Need I point out that Jean has been running OOoAuthors for the

Re: [board-discuss] Questions for the candidates to the board of directors of the Document Foundation

2015-11-28 Thread toki
On 02/11/2015 16:38, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > 1. Do you commit yourself to have enough time and the necessary > technological tools in order to participate to the regularly scheduled > board calls? Can you be more specific with what you mean by "necessary technological tools"? By way of

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-27 Thread toki
On 5/26/20 1:51 PM, Paolo Vecchi wrote: > > > On 26/05/2020 15:43, Thorsten Behrens wrote: >> Paolo Vecchi wrote: >>> 6 As individual users would you like to make a donation to TDF >>> specifically to support the development of LibreOffice Online? >>> >> We can't do that. > Is that a technical

Re: [board-discuss] LOOL user experience

2020-05-27 Thread toki
On 5/22/20 8:05 PM, Andras Timar wrote: > I disagree. It's a myth. Yes, it can be hard, when firewalls, load > balancers, 5 users etc. are involved. It's the case when one needs > professional support. But for the hobbyist, how hard is it to install > CODE with a few clicks in Univention, or

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-15 Thread toki
On 2020/07/15 17:47, Kev M wrote: >Your branding expert is possibly correct in their assessment that Personal is >better. But alarms are going off in the heads of me and other FOSS >supporters/ideologues on the implications of the term. Hard to balance >interests. The hardest part of

Re: [board-discuss] Personal Edition label and define is wrong.

2020-07-20 Thread toki
On 2020/07/16 10:04, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > I think TDF marketing should provide guidance on how running a successful > major > LibreOffice deployment without external support is set up, and what benefits > this yields. Back in the days of OOo 1.x, there was a document describing how to

Re: [board-discuss] Re: [tdf-members] Personal: and software freedom.

2020-07-13 Thread toki
On 2020/07/13 12:36, Michael Meeks wrote: > I think I've detected the location of the bug already. > >> and that AOo and LibO are slowly migrating towards >> mutual incompatibility. > > I expect that this is a matter of keeping up with standards. It takes > significant investment to

Re: [board-discuss] Proposed rebranding in global perspective

2020-07-13 Thread toki
On 2020/07/12 22:59, Tuomas Hietala wrote: > The big issue I'd like to bring up is that the assumptions behind the > marketing plan and Michael's analysis seem to be somewhat anglo/eurocentric, > or perhaps more accurately global north / major language centric". That is because historically:

Re: [board-discuss] Re: [tdf-members] Discussion about options available with marketing plan draft and timetable

2020-07-13 Thread toki
On 2020/07/13 14:20, Telesto wrote: >The potential customer has to figure out who to contact themselves. Sending >customers more or less in the dark. I'll grant that the LibO webpage on obtaining professional, paid support, could be clearer. From my perspective, the biggest change to that page

Re: [board-discuss] Re: Some problems.

2020-07-14 Thread toki
On 2020/07/14 10:41, Michael Meeks wrote: > On 12/07/2020 20:32, toki wrote: >> On 2020/07/08 12:40, Michael Meeks wrote: >>> I think Thorsten stated more cleanly as: >>> >>> "The market for desktop libreoffice is tough; >>> sales cy

Re: [board-discuss] Re: Some problems.

2020-07-12 Thread toki
On 2020/07/08 12:40, Michael Meeks wrote: > One clarification since it caused some private questions: > > On 07/07/2020 21:13, Michael Meeks wrote: >> Collabora - despite C'bra still putting a lot of work into >> LibreOffice Desktop, having an outstanding support capability, doing >> lots of

Re: [board-discuss] Re: [tdf-members] Personal: and software freedom.

2020-07-12 Thread toki
On 2020/07/10 12:59, Kev M wrote: > Why not call it LibreOffice Vanilla? I might be hypersensative right now, due to the riots in the United States, but I suspect every HR department seeking to reduce "hostile work environment" lawsuits would flat out bar the use of any product that contained

Re: [board-discuss] Discussion about options available with marketing plan draft and timetable

2020-07-12 Thread toki
On 2020/07/09 16:56, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:47 PM Andreas Mantke wrote: > >> >> please read through the whole discussion and you may get an impression >> that there are some intent to use TDF for such a promotion. >> > > However, those with that impression are entirely

Re: [board-discuss] There is no such thing as "enterprise" // Suggestion for change of marketing plan

2020-07-12 Thread toki
On 2020/07/08 11:08, gerry wrote: > There is no such thing as a homogenous "enterprise" that leads to a certain > level of software support services needs or that is per se 'suitable' for > purchased licenses. If the marketing plan is based on wrong assumptions, then > it might be

Re: [board-discuss] LibreOffice Personal & TDF's statutes & purpose

2020-07-11 Thread toki
On 2020/07/09 16:54, Italo Vignoli wrote: > On 7/9/20 6:35 PM, Aravind Palla wrote: > >> - that there will be no change of license; > > Based on what you assume there can be a change of license, the marketing > plan says exactly the opposite, i.e. we do stay loyal to the copyleft > license,

Re: [board-discuss] 'Free Beer' Office?

2020-07-25 Thread toki
On 2020/07/25 07:58, Andreas Mantke wrote: > for those who complains about LibreOffice campains stating free (like > free beer), here is a current example from the official LibreOffice account: > > https://twitter.com/libreoffice/status/128692953570496/photo/1 Both "No Registration" and "No

Re: [board-discuss] New Version of Strategic Marcom Plan

2020-07-17 Thread toki
On 2020/07/17 16:22, Mark Hung wrote: > My impression as a user regarding LibreOffice Personal ( or Individuals, > Individuals WFH, students ) vs LibreOffice Enterprises is that they might > be different in their features, where LibreOffice Enterprise might have a > bunch of features that suits

Re: [board-discuss] Personal Edition label and define is wrong.

2020-07-20 Thread toki
On 2020/07/16 10:04, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > I think TDF marketing should provide guidance on how running a successful > major > LibreOffice deployment without external support is set up, and what benefits > this yields. Back in the days of OOo 1.x, there was a document describing how to

Re: [board-discuss] Advisory Board Membership of Rubitech-Astra

2022-02-27 Thread toki
On 26/02/2022 08:10, Lothar K. Becker wrote: Please take also into account as there was mentioned if someone else like from China want to engage for the sake of TDF would be hindered to contribute by If I can make a recommendation, create a list of specific criteria that will result in

Re: [tdf-discuss] Licensing question

2013-07-25 Thread Toki Kantoor
On 07/25/2013 10:06 PM, theUser BL wrote: The big question is: Why doing LibreOffice that? The short answer is that the licenses that each organization uses allows that to happen. The longer answer is that free qua libre has implications that free qua open does not have. Implications that the