Re: [tdf-discuss] LO Base Enhancements

2014-08-05 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Wolfgang Keller schreef op 05/08/2014 12:05:

+1
we use the native mysql connector and  macro's + dialogs + writer+ calc  
for having a complet CRM and SRM platform with  +100 users working in 
the office and at home (VPN connections) only using LO and a MySQL server.


greetz

Fernand

I can´tjudge whether your idea is good or not. But I know that there
are around the worldonly two or three developers for base.

Pity because Base is (could be?) imho actually *the* killer component
of LO. For everything else there are other free solutions.

In fact I see the rest of LO (Calc and Writer) just as a reporting
framework for Base.


It is inhuman to demand major changes of these few people. We must
be grateful that these eliminate the bugs.

That would be an argument in favour of not re-inventing wheels and
instead just ship drivers for client-server RDBMSs while concentrating
on the client implementation.

Sincerely,

Wolfgang




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Re: [tdf-discuss] macro compatibility between LO and AOO?

2013-03-04 Thread Fernand Vanrie

On 4/03/2013 8:27, M. Fioretti wrote:

On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 08:16:25 AM +0100, Fernand Vanrie wrote:


99% percent , changes comes and will come from incompatiliteis in de API.
for now this is OK, small changes from version to version, but
nothing who not can been repaired or handled with the code( basic)
itself

I knew that. The sense of my question is, is there is a list of things
to avoid beforehand, rather than wait that they break and fix the
code?
thats more a question for the developers list . 
libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org  and fore the aOO counterpart 
ooo-...@incubator.apache.org


Thanks,
Marco




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Re: [tdf-discuss] macro compatibility between LO and AOO?

2013-03-03 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Op 04/03/2013 07:53, M. Fioretti schreef:

(sorry if this comes in twice, my email server had problems earlier
today)Reply-To: M. Fioretti mfiore...@nexaima.net

Greetings,

the subject says it all. I have already searched online, and am
looking at the manual but apparently (maybe I used the wrong terms) it
is not easy to find CURRENT information on macro compatibility between
LO 4 and AOO 3.4.1: will all macros created in one tool also work in
the other?

99% percent , changes comes and will come from incompatiliteis in de API.

for now this is OK, small changes from version to version, but nothing 
who not can been repaired or handled with the code( basic) itself


If not, why and when? What are the reasons/cases when a macro is not
portable?

are there any guidelines/best practices to write portable macros?

Thanks in advance for any pointer!

Marco
http://mfioretti.com




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[tdf-discuss] using PDF as Graphic Format in 3.5

2012-01-05 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Hallo,

Do not know if this is the good list ?

It can not be  a big problem to make PDF a acepted graphic format for 
LO. (PDF insert as a picture)
These day's PDF is a overall standard even to stock pictures. Most 
Graphic apllications accept pictures in PDF format .


In  LO we can only show a PDF as a OLE object .
- this OLE object have a wrong sised window
- this is no longer posible in 3.5

Greetz

Fernand



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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice in press release about extensions

2011-11-08 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Christophe ,
Wat kind of extensions ?

Greetz
Fernand


Hi,

At K.U.Leuven we have been working on three extensions for LibreOffice 
and OpenOffice.org. One of them is new; two others will be updated 
this week. We are planning a press release about this and would like 
to know how LibreOffice and TDF would like to be mentioned in this. 
The current text is:
LibreOffice (http://www.libreoffice.org/) is a free and open-source 
office suite developed by The Document Foundation as a fork of 
OpenOffice.org. The Document Foundation was formed in September 2010 
and has released several new versions of LibreOffice since that time. 
New code in LibreOffice is developed under a double license: GNU 
Lesser General Public License Version 3 (LGPLv3) and the Mozilla 
Public License (MPL).
(This text appears below two other paragraphs that describe/introduce 
OpenOffice.org and the ODF standard.)


Best regards,

Christophe





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Re: [tdf-discuss] Error in scripting framework

2011-09-13 Thread Fernand Vanrie

 Cor ,

+1

greetz

Fernand

Hi Olivier,

Olivier Hallot wrote (12-09-11 17:39)

Couldn't we write just Oh dear, I am unable to find a macro you 
asked me to

execute!?


Would the following be acceptable:
Error: the macro you are trying to execute 
(libName.modName.fnName) could not be found.


Cheers,




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[tdf-discuss] Poor Quality 3D charts

2011-09-01 Thread Fernand Vanrie
Maybe its simply a bug or a enhancement, but i hope somebody, who worked 
on the 3D charts  is reading ?
2 D charts can been exported to PDF or even  EPS . The shapes are 
Vector-based and can been used for high quality printing.
3 D charts however can not been used for  PDF /A-1a  export  because of 
some transparency problems. A work around is exporting the charts as EPS 
files, but part of this 3D charts contains rasterised (72 dpi) ellements .
The problem is that this rasterised 3D-effects  at 72 dpi are  fine for 
Screen reproduction but to low for High Quality Printing where we need 
at least 254 DPI.

Can this been fixed or are we stuck with this 72 DPI ?
Thanks for any explanation
Fernand


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Fuzzy pictures on PDF export

2011-07-30 Thread Fernand Vanrie

 Christian,

Thanks for this tip, but we must been aware that transparency is still 
not possible when the document must been printed with machines using 
Postscript ( most professional printers)


Greetz

Fernand

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Fernand Vanries...@pmgroup.be  wrote:

Sometimes, the  PDF converter make a picture at 96 dpi off the parts off
the doc ( a frame, table or even the complete document) who contains
elements who can not been converted to PDF. Transparency is the most likely
cause for this . Then your text is in pixels at 96 dpi  and looks crispy.

Transparency is only a problem when you use the restricted PDF-A1
format, regular PDF supports transparency.

So if the picture quality export setting  using regular PDF-export
doesn't solve the problem, then file a bug and attach a sample
document with the image and a PDF produced by OOo and one by LO for
comparison.

ciao
Christian




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Fuzzy pictures on PDF export

2011-07-29 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Matthew,

Sometimes, the  PDF converter make a picture at 96 dpi off the parts 
off the doc ( a frame, table or even the complete document) who contains 
elements who can not been converted to PDF. Transparency is the most 
likely cause for this . Then your text is in pixels at 96 dpi  and looks 
crispy.


Greetz

Fernand

I originally created my document using OpenOffice. During the riff raff IP
wars, I converted to LibreOffice. My document is in ODT format and looks
good with a little tweaking (and learning curve built-in). I also created
all of my pictures (inserted into the document) in OpenOffice as XCF
initially .. and inserted them into the doc as JPG.

When using OpenOffice and following this procedures, my PDF export showed
all text and pictures with crystal clarity. However, upon converting to
LibreOffice, while my doc looks good as ODT, when I export ... all the text
is crisp while the pictures are fuzzy comparatively.

I suspect this is a user issue. I just don't know which use issue it is.
Please advise/help.

PS For grins, I've cut and pasted XCF into the ODT and exported to PDF with
same result. Similarly, I converted XCF to GIF and JPG with same result. It
is apparent I'm clueless.

Cheers.
Matthew

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Re: [tdf-discuss] ignore m$ legacy?

2011-07-27 Thread Fernand Vanrie

 Andrew , Others

I agree with the point of view of Andrew.
 Please make LO OPEN as maximum as possible different formats. I say 
open not SAVE as...
We are a Editing House where our 30 fulltime journalists using OO 
(forced by us),  the more than 100 freelancers recieved on regular base 
CD's for installing OO and also LO. They like the product because the 
use it for opening all sort of documents and ist FREE :-).
But finaly only 20 % are sending there copy in OO-LO format and 80% 
still in MS format (all sort off versions).
 Thats the reality, because our Freelancers continuing using MS for 
their daily work simply  because 99% off there clients are using MS.


Greetz

Fernand


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[tdf-discuss] Sending Emails with API SOLVED

2011-07-06 Thread Fernand Vanrie
Thanks to a friend, who can read the code behind thinks,  our problem to 
use LO and the API to send Emails is solved, without using the clibboard 
content.


There is made use off the Mailmerge.py script who gives problems when 
sending non-ascii chararters like( éèàç tec...) but this script can 
easly been altered


In origin there is a line

textbody = textbody.encode('utf-8')

add a extra line

textbody = unicode( textbody, utf-8 )

textbody = textbody.encode('utf-8')

and you can send also non-ascii characters.

the code

Sub Main

oMailProvider = CreateUNOService(com.sun.star.mail.MailServiceProvider)
oCont = CreateUNOListener(CurCont_,com.sun.star.uno.XCurrentContext)
oAuth = CreateUNOListener(Authent_,com.sun.star.mail.XAuthenticator)
oTrans = 
CreateUNOListener(Trans_,com.sun.star.datatransfer.XTransferable)


oMailServiceObj = com.sun.star.mail.MailMessage
oMail = oMailServiceObj.create( t...@email.com, f...@email.com, the 
subject, oTrans)


xMailServer = oMailProvider.Create(com.sun.star.mail.SMTP)

xMailServer.Connect(oCont,oAuth)
xMailServer.SendMailMessage(oMail)
xMailServer.Disconnect()

End Sub

Function Trans_getTransferData(f) As Any
if f.MimeType = text/html then
Trans_getTransferData = htmlbodypMy 
Mail!/p/body/html

end if
End Function

Function Trans_getTransferDataFlavors() As Variant
Dim f As New com.sun.star.datatransfer.DataFlavor
f.MimeType = text/html
Trans_getTransferDataFlavors = Array(f)
End Function

Function Trans_isDataFlavorSupported(f) As Boolean
   Trans_isDataFlavorSupported = (f.MimeType = text/html)
End Function


Function CurCont_GetValueByName(s) as Any
Select Case s
Case ServerName
CurCont_GetValueByName = your.smtp.server.com
Case Port
CurCont_GetValueByName = 25
Case ConnectionType
CurCont_GetValueByName = Insecure
End Select
End Function

Function Authent_GetUserName() as Any
Authent_GetUserName = your_smtp_user
End Function

Function Authent_GetPassword()
Authent_GetPassword = your_smtp_password
End Function



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[tdf-discuss] Who does the maintenance Phyton Mailmerge script

2011-06-27 Thread Fernand Vanrie
I found that we can send Emails using Basic and the API  using the 
Phyton Mailmerge stuff.
There is a small problem to send Emails with non us-ascii characters. I 
solved the problem in the Python script, just wondering how do i pass 
this correction to the original script who is delivered by the native 
installion files

I supose filling a issue ?

Thanks,

Fernand

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Who does the maintenance Phyton Mailmerge script

2011-06-27 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Simos,

The repair in Mailmerge.py is quite simple


at line 154  we have  textbody = textbody.encode('utf-8')

where the textbody contains non-ascii characters like (éèà etc...)

so just insert

textbody = unicode( textbody, utf-8 )

before line 154 and everyting works fine !

i make also the bug report with the correct

mailmerge.py

  attacheted

Thanks

Fernand

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Fernand Vanries...@pmgroup.be  wrote:

I found that we can send Emails using Basic and the API  using the Phyton
Mailmerge stuff.
There is a small problem to send Emails with non us-ascii characters. I
solved the problem in the Python script, just wondering how do i pass this
correction to the original script who is delivered by the native installion
files
I supose filling a issue ?


Is this the file you were working on?
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/libs-core/tree/scripting/source/pyprov/mailmerge.py

If so, then the way to go for this is:

1. create a patch (diff file) which highlights the changes you did to
the Python code.
If you can put your final version of mailmerge.py online, I can help
you create the appropriate patch.

2. file a bug report at
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=LibreOffice
Select the the component 'LibreOffice'.

3. tell us here the URL of this bug report so that we can have a look.
There are several encoding issues with the Python scripts, so it would
be nice to find a way to fix them all in one go.

Simos




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Who does the maintenance Phyton Mailmerge script

2011-06-27 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Simos,

the bug report https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38713

Simos,

The repair in Mailmerge.py is quite simple


at line 154  we have  textbody = textbody.encode('utf-8')

where the textbody contains non-ascii characters like (éèà etc...)

so just insert

textbody = unicode( textbody, utf-8 )

before line 154 and everyting works fine !

i make also the bug report with the correct

mailmerge.py

  attacheted

Thanks

Fernand

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Fernand Vanries...@pmgroup.be  wrote:
I found that we can send Emails using Basic and the API  using the 
Phyton

Mailmerge stuff.
There is a small problem to send Emails with non us-ascii characters. I
solved the problem in the Python script, just wondering how do i 
pass this
correction to the original script who is delivered by the native 
installion

files
I supose filling a issue ?


Is this the file you were working on?
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/libs-core/tree/scripting/source/pyprov/mailmerge.py 



If so, then the way to go for this is:

1. create a patch (diff file) which highlights the changes you did to
the Python code.
If you can put your final version of mailmerge.py online, I can help
you create the appropriate patch.

2. file a bug report at
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=LibreOffice
Select the the component 'LibreOffice'.

3. tell us here the URL of this bug report so that we can have a look.
There are several encoding issues with the Python scripts, so it would
be nice to find a way to fix them all in one go.

Simos







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Re: [tdf-discuss] When can we have a API to send Emails ?

2011-06-24 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Cor ,

I know all this tricks, but its still sending as attachments , i want a 
simple way to send a email with a message in the body


Thanks

Fernand

Hi Fernand,

Fernand Vanrie wrote (22-06-11 14:18)

For some reasons the developpers off the OO-API has decided to not allow
sending Emails using there API

[...]


Not sure if this has been mentioned already, and/or is of use for you, 
but since years I use an dispatch command for the task:


   executeDispatch(oDocFrame, .uno:SendMailDocAsMS, , 0, Array())
or
   executeDispatch(oDocFrame, .uno:SendMailDocAsPDF, , 0, Array())

Regards,
Cor
(sorry for being late with this)




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: When can we have a API to send Emails ?

2011-06-23 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Alex,

Thanks for yoyr reply, but how do we acces this with the API ?

Greetz

Fernand

Le 22/06/11 14:18, Fernand Vanrie a écrit :

Hi Fernand,



For some reasons the developpers off the OO-API has decided to not allow
sending Emails using there API



imho the mechanism is in place



Well, one can already find :

const rtl::OUString BODY(RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM(--body));

in smplmailclient.cxx

But this doesn't seem to be used anywhere else.


Alex





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Re: [tdf-discuss] When can we have a API to send Emails ?

2011-06-23 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Andrew ,

I use this option for years, just a pitty we can not do this using our 
beloved API :-) and when making a extention not all users has  the same 
client on there machine


Greetz

Fernand

On 06/22/2011 08:18 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote:
For some reasons the developpers off the OO-API has decided to not 
allow sending Emails using there API


I believe that all of these use the command line to send an email 
message using an existing client, which then limits the message that 
can be sent. Been a long time since I looked at this.





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[tdf-discuss] Sponsored Bug Repair ?

2011-06-23 Thread Fernand Vanrie

I hope Michael and other TDF-members are reading this.

As we love to have a Email body when sending emails with the API, our 
compagny is willing to fund this kind of repair work.


The interested makes a Enhancement request
The TDF put a price on it
The interested pays TDF in advance
After TDF and interested is satisfied TDF pays the Developer our keeps 
the money for other projects

Simple ?

Fernand

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Two simple writer annoyances

2011-04-30 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Ian ,
No , we can not rotate a picture in LO , but LO is not our favorite 
application to handle our pictures and graphics. LO is build to produce 
documents, pictures are taken by camera and for correcting and rotating 
this pictures we can uses hundreds off different and specialised free 
and open) Applications.
BTW: use the wrap and contours to let  flow text around irregular 
shaped objects in LO


Greetz

Fernand


On 29 April 2011 07:28, Krabina Bernhardkrab...@kdz.or.at  wrote:


Hi,

I think there are two annoyances in writer that should not be that hard to
fix. I hope someone can fix these:

1. Why can't writer have image descriptions ABOVE the image as well? It can
do it with tables, but with images, image captions have to be below the
image...

2. Why can't writer have the possibility to rotate an image...


Over 20 years ago I used Impression Publisher and it could rotate graphics
and IIRC flow text around irregular shaped objects. And that was on a
computer with 2 meg of RAM, no hard drive and basically the same ARM
processor as a modern day Smartphone but running at 30 MHz. It could be
argued that few people need these or they are more appropriate to a DTP
program? I use Inkscape and GIMP now for most image preparation, then import
the final product into Writer if it needs to go into a WP. More often than
not though it goes straight onto a web page.



thanx and keep up the good work!

regards,
Berhard


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Bug or new feature

2011-03-15 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Steve,

I filed 2 years ago a issue on OO for that.
Indeed it blocks a lot of efforts made to make PDF happen, and the tool 
is still  useless for many (professional) users. EPSvector  is still the 
standard for all graphic applications.

Like Micheal says, the code needs a bit more love :-)

Greetz

Fernand
LO, also OO do not create pdf's correctly from documents containing 
EPS's.

This occurs on 3.3.1 on Suse and OSX.
The PDF is not created with the vector data of the EPS but the low 
resolution bitmap (if there is one) used for positioning.

To create a correct PDF I must print to file (PS) and use PS2PDF.

Is this a bug?

steve




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[tdf-discuss] PinterSettins are no longer persistent (windows)

2011-03-10 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Hallo

Sinds 3.3 (windows) all PrinterSettings except the Printer Names  are no 
longer persistent and not stored  anywhere not in the profile, and not 
in the document. Within the printer settings we have the options who 
are not Printer specific and we have Settings who are bound to a 
specific printer. Both are all lost after reloading the document, We 
can  use the Printer specific settings during but only when starting the 
printing itself the choosen settings are remenbered as lo,ng the 
document stays open.


Setting the PageSizes using the API is also broken, please trie the 
included code with a printer who accept to changes the PaperSizes


PLease can someone confirm this, so i can fill a issue

Greetz

Fernand

REM * BASIC *
Sub printdocument
Dim Doc As Object
doc = thiscomponent
Dim PrinterProperties(0) As New com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
Dim PaperSize As New com.sun.star.awt.Size
PaperSize.Width = 2 ' corresponds to 20 cm
PaperSize.Height = 2 ' corresponds to 20 cm
'PrinterProperties (0).Name= Name
'PrinterProperties (0).Value= Adobe PDF
PrinterProperties (0).Name=PaperFormat
PrinterProperties (0).Value= 8
'PrinterProperties (1).Name=PaperSize
'PrinterProperties (1).Value= PaperSize
Doc.setPrinter(PrinterProperties())
'xray Doc.getPrinter
Doc.print(PrinterProperties())

Dim PrinterProps(1) As New com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
PrinterProps(0).Name=wait
PrinterProps(0).value=true
PrinterProps(1).Name = IsBusy

dim bIsBusy as boolean
bIsBusy = True
While bIsBusy
'dim aPrintConditions as object
aPrintConditions = thiscomponent.getPrinter()
dim i as integer
For i = LBound( aPrintConditions ) To UBound( aPrintConditions )
If aPrintConditions(i).Name = IsBusy Then
bIsBusy = aPrintConditions(i).Value
EndIf
Next
Wait 10
wend

DisplayPrinterProperties

end sub

Sub DisplayPrinterProperties
Dim Props 'Array of com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
Dim i% 'Index variable of type Integer
Dim s$ 'Display string
Dim v '
Dim sName$ '
On Error Resume Next
Props = ThisComponent.getPrinter()
For i = 0 To UBound(Props)
sName = props(i).Name
v = props(i).Value
s = s  sName   = 
If sName = PaperOrientation Then
REM com.sun.star.view.PaperOrientation.LANDSCAPE also supported
s = s  IIf(v=com.sun.star.view.PaperOrientation.PORTRAIT,_
Portrait, Landscape)   =   CStr(v)
ElseIf sName = PaperFormat Then
Select Case v
Case com.sun.star.view.PaperFormat.A3
s = s  A3
Case com.sun.star.view.PaperFormat.A4
s = s  A4
Case com.sun.star.view.PaperFormat.A5
s = s  A5
Case com.sun.star.view.PaperFormat.B4
s = s  B4
Case com.sun.star.view.PaperFormat.B5
s = s  B5
Case com.sun.star.view.PaperFormat.LETTER
s = s  LETTER
Case com.sun.star.view.PaperFormat.LEGAL
s = s  LEGAL
Case com.sun.star.view.PaperFormat.TABLOID
s = s  TABLOID
Case com.sun.star.view.PaperFormat.USER
s = s  USER
Case Else
s = s  Unknown value
End Select
s = s   =   CStr(v)
ElseIf sName = PaperSize Then
REM type is com.sun.star.awt.Size
REM The size is in TWIPS and there are 1440 twips per inch
s=s  CDbl(v.Width)/1000  x  CDbl(v.Height)/1000   (cm)
Else
s = s  CStr(v)
End If
s = s  CHR$(10)
Next
s= Sometimes the PrinterName is correct but never the wanted
papersize
of 20x20 cm  CHR(10)  s
MsgBox s, 0, Printer Properties

End Sub



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Calc usability issue (autocorrect of small letter to capital letter)

2011-03-08 Thread Fernand Vanrie

On 8/03/2011 16:14, Kevin André wrote:

Calc seems to autocorrect a small letter to a capital letter after a dot
character.
But a dot character does not always mean the end of a sentence; in this case
it was used for an abbreviation. And sadly there is no way to undo a wrong
autocorrection: pressing undo will revert the entire input of the cell.
Please provide a way to undo the autocorrection, or make calc realise that
when a user changes 'R' to 'r' in a cell it shouldn't make it an 'R' again
:) That's really frustrating.




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[tdf-discuss]Print Intentions for LO documents

2011-02-24 Thread Fernand Vanrie
With no luck I tried in the past to convince the OO developers to  
include Print intentions in the there documents.
We need to store some meta-data  about where and how the document will 
been published, On screen, printed on a Laser Printer, Printed by en 
professional Printhouse etc
This information is important to show the inserted graphics at the 
correct sizes. Now, LO and OO looks in the file header off the graphic 
file for the DPI who is stored by the Author off the Graphic (mostly the 
photographer). These is useless,  we need to define the DPI (what kind 
of printing will be used) )in the document and then calculate the amount 
off pixels we need to publish the Graphic at the  size who garanteed the 
best quality.
I supose it is not to complicated to code this feather, i do not know if 
ODF support this wanted Print Intentions ?


Thanks for any consideration

Fernand


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents

2011-02-01 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Magnus ,

Your document contains EPS images with a lowres preview. OO or LO 
shows only this preview.The poor quality is due to the lowres (72x72) 
pixels per inch.


OO or LO can NOT show eps images.

Ok, so far the bad news, if you want to see hig quality in your LO doc 
, then you need to transfer the pictures to the OO-draw-vector format 
and copy from there to your Writzer Doc.


open your picture with Gview ( Opensource)
Convert in Gview to EPS, save.
Open the new saved EPS in OO-draw and copy the picture from draw into 
your Writer Document


When now making a PDF you will see that some parts of your picture (text 
and notations) have a lower quality than the original EPS output.


You can also following a other work flow, with no loss of quality.

Start opening your orginal pictures in Gview, export a to a pixel 
format, who has better results in your Writer Doc.


Insert this pixelformats as linked file in your writer doc.

Befor printing, change your pixelformat_link to the original 
epsfile_link ( can ealy been done with a macro when using some naming 
conventions)


Hope it helps a bit

Fernand

I have made two test files with the kind of EPS images I work with. I put the
test together with OOo in the ODT document and then printed a PDF file of
that document with CUPS-PDF; I hope I managed to upload and attach them here
properly. With the files I want to show my problem and that is the poor
quality of the EPS images in the ODT document. The resulting PDF file is on
the contrary very good; it is e.g. better than if I had made the original
document in DOC format in Microsoft Word. But the ODT file that I work with
when writing my texts and books has such poor EPS illustrations that I
cannot rely on them for quick controls of what they contain.

Regards,
Magnus

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2396161/EPS_Image_Test_1.odt
EPS_Image_Test_1.odt
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2396161/EPS_Image_Test_1.pdf
EPS_Image_Test_1.pdf



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents

2011-02-01 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Magnus ,

No programmer skils needed here:

- dowload GSview
- open a EPS picture with GSview
- Change the MEDIA Diplay settings to 500 dpi and use 24 bits/pixel
- goto FILE and convert PS to EPS who ask for a new file name (the 
helpinfo explains the whole thing)
- trie to import the new file in LO and check the difference in Previeuw 
quality when not OK then trie other Display settings


Hope it helps

Fernand


Fernand: when the PDF is made with the Postscript output, then it's using
the
vector graphic parts of the picture not the preview!

OK, I see; then I would simply like to request a better preview. I
understand the file size of the ODT document goes up, but I would prefer
that instead of the current situation. It would be interesting to find out
how small an improvement in preview resolution would yield an enough good
result for me. Are you a programmer, Fernand? May I ask you to look into
this?



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Re: [tdf-discuss] EPS images in ODF documents

2011-01-29 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Magnus ,
No difference between LO and OO sofar
Using EPS is in fact not a problem, at condition you start from EPS with 
a build in lowres preview .
EPS without preview is not shown' in a document but when printed (using 
a postscript printer) like PDF etc.. the Highres images will be in the 
PDF document  for RGB and CMYK as well.
When using the direct PDF output in LO or OO then the lowres images will 
been in the PDF document, what is still a issue for LO and OO PDF creation.


Hope it helps as a workaround ?

Fernand

PS: Trye to convince your Publisher, Printer not to use EPS anymore, 
Postcript has had is best day's, using a RGB workflow with Hyres 
RGB-images ( Tif or jpg) in your  Documents, is far more simpeler with 
same quality outcome.



Hello! I write books containing a lot of EPS images. When I have tried to use
OpenOffice I have not been satisfied with the rendition of the inserted EPS
images. Is LibreOffice better than OpenOffice in this respect?

Regards,
Magnus Johansson



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Fwd: [dev] An image editing extension for Open office writer

2011-01-17 Thread Fernand Vanrie

 Nguyen ,

I tried to install your latest version(2) on Windows 3.3 RC8 it 
installed but no reaction when klicking on your toolbar 


From the video i saw a usefull extension, but :-) your exellent work 
do not help us to overcome a important Openoffice  weakness: No way to 
define the print Intentions who means where and how will the document 
and the included pictures been printed. The most important Print 
Intention is the  resolution needed for the  the device where the 
document sould been printed.



For screen we need 96 pixels par inch
for Laserprinters 150 ppi
for professional offset 254 ppi.

I supose your tool get (just like OO) the resolution from the picture 
file header, what is not a good idea, the autor of a picture do not know 
on what device the picture sould been reproduced ! It is important to 
define the ppi when loading the picture in the document, so the tool 
can  calculate the the minimum and maximum dimensions (in mm, inches...) 
off the  picture.


Hope its helps

Fernand



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Professional Printing from LiO

2011-01-15 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Prabath ,

Yes you can, at condition you use a RGB-workflow   all the way (in 
preference the AdobeRGB colorspace). making highresolutions PDF's is no 
problem. The Final pdf-RGB to CMYK conversion can be done by your 
printer or you can use yourself a pdf conversion tool who handles this 
color transformations.


Greetz
 Fernand

Can LibreOffice writer use for professional offset printing?




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Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-17 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Tibor

thank you both for answers, I understand now the situation...
My friend is historcian and he is not interested in learning any DTP technics – 
that is quite understandable.
His first pdf exported from OO was flatly rejected as it was in RBG. It is 
fault or shortcoming of this publishing shop but he will not change it.
Today, I found and tested pstill tool, it converts pdf to CMYK pdf, only colors 
(in included photos) are somehow shifted, or undersaturated. I had not 
investigated this issue yet, it might be something trivial …
No not trivial, thats wath i mend with using correct colorspace, when 
the pictures in a LO doc are all the same colorspace, then tranforming 
to CMYK has a better change to produce better colors.

This was some background, but I have following question:

You wrote:

„Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or adobeRGB) 
is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !“ - are you trying to 
say, that OO/LibreOffice exports PDFs to wrong RGB type that can not be 
converted properly into CMYK pdf? If this would be the case it would be quite 
serious problem...
I supose LO is not touching the colorspace precent in the original 
pictures, we slould have a tool (at least in draw) yo check the 
colorspace in a picture and to alter this all to the same space.

Regards

Tibor



On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:08:38 +0100, Fernand Vanries...@pmgroup.be  wrote:


Tibor,

A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that CMYK but deaser days
RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb)
documents. CMYK is printer business so they mostly prefer to do the
transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or
adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !

Fernand

Hi,
Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver pdf in 
CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there any plans or 
any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is not critical issue for 
me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe product at the end...

Regards










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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-17 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Alex,

Indeed using CMYK-eps can been done, but  the pictures are not shown in 
LO or OOdocuments. They re-apear in the final PDF made by a Windows 
printer (not by the LO conversion) We used this technique for years, 
starting with low-res Pictures in the OO-docs, and then just before PDF 
making, we replace them with there EPS conterparts.
This is nowdays over ruled by an RGB workflow where we use Highres RGB 
pictures (all in the same sRGB or AdobeRGB colorspace) then  we makes 
RGB-pdf's and tranfers the RGB-pdf to a CMYK-pdf for professional CMYK 
printing.


Fernand


Le 17/12/10 09:16, Fernand Vanrie a écrit :

Hi all,

I seem to recall that neither OOo, nor LibO implement CMYK colourspace,
but I also seem to recall having read somewhere that if you use EPS
images that are already CMYK compliant, instead of JPG, then you might
get a more acceptable PDF doc. Worth trying ? I don't remember exactly
because even EPS management within OOo/LibO wasn't brilliant. The only
other thing I can think of is Scribus...


Alex









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Re: [tdf-discuss] PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-16 Thread Fernand Vanrie

Tibor,

A few years ago i would say yes a good idea that CMYK but deaser days 
RGB is a common workflow due to the online use of the same (rgb) 
documents. CMYK is printer business so they mostly prefer to do the 
transfer off a RGB-pdf into a CMYK-pdf.
Important for this process  is using the correct colorspace (sRGB or 
adobeRGB) is more important and there are we have no tools in LO !


Fernand

Hi,
Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver pdf in 
CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there any plans or 
any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is not critical issue for 
me, nor for my friend. He used some Adobe product at the end...

Regards




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