Beekee said:
my theory is that if someone wants to ensure they receive important
information they'd be darn sure to enter the important information
correctly.
Well, for this specific case -- input your email -- I guess there is
only so many ways that an user could do it! But for form-fillin in
I'm sorry that I don't have any research for you, but if I have time
tomorrow, I will briefly poke about to see if I can find something
concrete.
I agree that there are multiple ways to validate and they all
have their positives and negatives. Only a handful of times have I
come across the dual
I%u2019ve no scientific research either, but when I observed users
filling in a form with two email fields, I saw several times that
people filled out the first field correctly, got annoyed with the
fact that they had to retype their address and made a typo in the
second field as a result of that.
The Design By Fire conference in the Netherlands strives to be the incubator
for the newest ideas on interaction design. Last year's conference was a
success, with a great keynote presented by Andrei Herasimchuk.
Preparations for the second Design by Fire conference have started. The date is
Oleg Krupnov wrote:
Do your prototypes look like clickable wireframes or do you skin them in
graphic design to imitate the final product look?
My prototypes look like all of the above
my workflow if typically
paper - wireframe - rendered UI
I work on the interaction all the way through
A question to ask is how often do people actually complete the form
with an incorrect email address? If it's quite rare, and as you
indicate the email address is not an essential part of the task, then
it seems like an unnecessary burden to place on all users to
accommodate an edge case.
By the
I do believe they are some statistics on this.
I came across a site telling me the percentage of people making typos (in
the form: you wouldn't believe it, but up to ...% of people get this
wrong) - sorry I don't recall the percentage nor the site; I believe it to
be a social site (like that's
Here is some research
http://www.getelastic.com/registration-usability-tips-ecommerce/
I am trying to find the article which stated that two email fields
for verification should die. Will post here when I find it.
Welcome to the
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We'll start with our sweet spot, documentation, and see where it goes.
Since it's our first, the workshop on 8/8/08 is
'Local Search' on mobiles is a space begging for attention. There
are a few players out there but there's so much more than can be done
to give a better experience to the users.
I've written a post about what I want from 'Local Search' on mobiles
Wasn't the original purpose of the confirm email field to thwart automated
scripts?
It's getting the human touch, confirmation that the form is being filled out
by a person, that's the goal.
As an Alan Cooper fan, I venture there are probably better and more elegant
ways to achieve this
All,
I really hope anyone considering iRise reads this before making their final
decision. We're a fairly small community and in general we all play well
together. Given this, it is *amazing* that we have a choice of tools to use.
So this kind of blatant and reprehensible grab for market share
Actually there is a way to stop pasting in the 2nd field: all you need
to do is write something like:
input type=text name=email_2 onpaste=return false
But it's hardly ever used because I guess it would frustrate lots of
people. I think I found out about this option from a blog article that
was
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Here is the patent in question:
http://tinyurl.com/3mvrls
and an earlier patent that they also own:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=hrmAEBAJdq=7,174,286
I think those patents were filed around 2004, and I really wonder if
such tools never existed in some form before that time. Maybe some
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Gail Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I have a theory that the appearance of a dup email field is a
misunderstanding of the dup password field. Password fields are
often duplicated because they are masked and therefore the user has
no way to validate their
On Jun 5, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Wendy Goodfriend wrote:
Can anyone direct me to research discussing the advantages and
disadvantages of using one vs two email fields? I am also looking
for inline validation code that addresses the one vs two field issue
as well.
I haven't seen anything
On 6/6/08, Alexander Baxevanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and an earlier patent that they also own:
http://www.google.com/patents?id=hrmAEBAJdq=7,174,286
I think those patents were filed around 2004, and I really wonder if
such tools never existed in some form before that time. Maybe
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I haven't seen anything formally published. However, here's what we've
found in our research at UIE:
The problem you're trying to solve is mistyping email addresses. Depending
on the audience, context, and design, you can
We as a community can simply say we shall not stand for this.
We are the ones, as customers, with power. we can let them know.
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Fred Beecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/6/08, Alexander Baxevanis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and an earlier patent that
Ok, am I the only one who gets an automated reply from Yahoo! Search
Marketing every time I post a message to the list?
Maybe we could do something about it?
Sebi
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Yahoo! Search Marketing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you for contacting us. This automated
I get it as well. They are a failing company. I chalk it up to the death
rattle.
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Sebi Tauciuc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, am I the only one who gets an automated reply from Yahoo! Search
Marketing every time I post a message to the list?
Maybe we could do
I have already sent emails to iRise (being a customer), as well as left two
voice mails. I have/will use both based on my needs - but this thing iRise
is doing is simply not right.
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Nancy Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How do we do that? I have been using Axure
I've served as an expert witness in several patent infringement cases and
have had the (sometime uncomfortable) experience of seeing the process
close-up.
It can be a very expensive and nasty process. The last case that I was
involved with went on for years and cost the companies millions of
What affect could this patent have on Adobe's Thermo? Is anybody from
the team currently reading the list? Narciso?
Jack
Jack L. Moffett
Interaction Designer
inmedius
412.459.0310 x219
http://www.inmedius.com
Things should be as simple as possible,
but no simpler.
-
Dan-
It sounds to me like you're channeling one of my favorite books, The
Cluetrain Manifesto. In it the authors suggest that the online
marketplace is more like an open-air market than a brick-and-mortar
retail outlet, not only because of the ability for customers to
comparison shop
In order to track down this problem, it would help to know when
members first started receiving the auto-replies (so we can tell what
date the offending party signed up).
If you've received a Yahoo Search Marketing message after posting to
the list, could you check the date? Or just forward it
I skimmed the '837 patent. It's VERY broad. It also cites an
unusually large amount of patent prior art (though its non-patent
prior art is CRAP, not at all surprising).
herewith the rampant speculation from a non-lawyer
If the examiner let it through with that amount of prior art cited
it's
Let's see...where have I seen this happen before...h. Oh, that's
right! Amazon patented the single click buy.
Let me be really clear about this, for those of you who don't
remember, Amazon patented something that was already in use by many,
but that was widely considered within our tiny,
Great discussion. I started using Axure around 2-3 yrs ago. Before
finalizing on Axure I spoke to an iRise sales rep. but he wasn't much
interested to talk to me as I was just an individual in a small company. Now
that Axure has captured a good market size iRise is trying these tactics. We
as a
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On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Vishal Iyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thats a great question.
From the iRise website (http://www.irise.com/patent/):
The invention covered by this patent is the use of a graphical,
drag-and-drop interface to allow non-technical users to define functionally
Um, me too.
On Jun 6, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Sebi Tauciuc wrote:
Ok, am I the only one who gets an automated reply from Yahoo! Search
Marketing every time I post a message to the list?
Maybe we could do something about it?
Sebi
Cheers!
Todd Zaki Warfel
President, Design Researcher
Speaking for the Board...
We haven't specifically discussed the issue. But really, it's not
so important what the Board thinks. Our only purpose is to facilitate
the community. If folks feel that this is important, let's use the
discussion board to discuss and recommend an action plan.
This is
The patent process is really complex for sure (though few will argue that it
doesn't need reform), but generally speaking- if someone invents a medicine
to cure a disease, shouldn't patents protect others from using the same
formula, but not prevent folks from creating other medicines to cure the
On Jun 6, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Alexander Baxevanis wrote:
Here is the patent in question: [removed]
and an earlier patent that they also own: [removed]
This has been discussed in the past before...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take patent discussions to a sequestered list or
blog posting or
I suspect that this is happening because someone on the list uses
Yahoo! Search Marketing and doesn't realize that somehow this is
getting routed through them. (And yes, it's happening to me, too.)
And I just noticed that when I Replied All on this email, Yahoo!
Search Marketing was in the cc
On Jun 6, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Dave Meeker wrote:
Really? You'd think as prototyping is a major part of experience
design, that this would be somewhat interesting to the community.
I'm sure it is.
You write your post as if you represent everyone.
I said some people. I thought I was clear
Andrei is perfectly correct here and the discussion of patents the
links to patents should not be discussed on IxDA. That should be a
strict policy. Discussion of a particular patent like this could open
members and companies on this discussion group open to treble damages
for willful
Andrei, feel free to setup a filter to send any mails from ixda with
'patent' to your deleted folder. Or use the website.
I think your pissing in the wind if you think a request to not
discuss patents is going to stop this happening in the future.
-pauric
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Apologies, I seemed to have posted in the 'yahoo! markteting
replies' while looking at the patent thread
My point is this; last time this came up I beleive Chauncey
highlighted the problems talking about patents. And here we are
again.
I feel its a relatively obscure issue that arises
On Jun 6, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Alan Wexelblat wrote:
I'm aware of the issues, but I'm uncomfortable with banning an entire
class of discussion from the entirety of the mailing list. Is there a
way to tag potentially risky messages so that people who cannot deal
with these things can filter the
First, my apologies to Andrei and anyone else who may be affected by having
links to patents in their email. I had NO idea about the impact.
In response to Josh Seiden who, speaking for the IxDA board, encouraged us
to come up with a plan of action, I'd like to start this new thread. To
anyone
Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find
anything related in the archives. I checked my Designing Interfaces
book as well and came up empty, so now I seek the guidance of the
collective.
http://anxiousplanet.com/ixda/SubmenuOrSubnav.gif
What would you call Current
Many portal applications call those pages, for lack of any better
term to describe them. For some reason, many folks have a very
difficult time seeing them, so whatever you call them, make them
obvious and provide alternative methods to get to them if people can't
remember they're there.
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Andrei Herasimchuk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Opening them is not the problem. It's having their presence on your internal
email servers to boot. When you get lawyers asking for information, they
take everything to see what you have, because proving what you've
A bit of clarification: I'm writing instructions, hence the need to know
what to call these things.
What would you call Current Design in this example?
A link?
That could work, but a link could be anywhere on the page. I could call
it a Navigation Link, but that sounds awkward.
After some offline discussions, I want to clarify what I wrote
earlier.
1. IxDA isn't going to take a position in this dispute. As an
organization, we have no meaningful visibility into the issues, nor
do we have the resources to develop that visibility. Thus we are not
is a position to take a
My apologies for posting that link, the previous post was posted this
morning and only appeared on the thread a few minutes ago.
I did inquire and nobody is available to comment.
Me thinks this is going to be a very delicate operation.
Mario
I have only recently signed up for IxDA, but both times that I have
made a post, I have received an e-mail form Yahoo! Search Marketing.
I will forward a copy of the first occurrence to feedback.
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On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Alan Wexelblat wrote:
I'm aware of the issues, but I'm uncomfortable with banning an entire
class of discussion from the entirety of the mailing list. Is there a
way to tag potentially risky messages so that people who cannot deal
with these things can filter the
Josh
3. Both the organization and some of our members could be exposed to
unpleasant legal consequences as a result of this discussion.
Therefore, we ask that those interested in continuing this discussion
do so offline, on one of your blogs perhaps, or in some other forum.
It's not clear to
On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:18 PM, Todd Zaki Warfel wrote:
No kidding. Banning any discussions on this list that have to do
with patents is just plain silly.
I just re-read everything I wrote today. No where in my messages did I
use the word ban. There are many viable solutions, and yes,
On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Will Evans wrote:
removing oneself from the list is absolutely part of the solution
options
Why would any one of us have to bow out to discuss this. It's
ludicrous.
Last I checked - even with the current administration - most of the
bill of
rights is still
This is neither a freedom of speech or a bill of rights issue. This is a
will-I-be-hauled-into-deposition-and-deposed-on-emails-in-my-inbasket
question.
Common Jared, this is exactly that. I state now that I have no skin in the
game - but I am gagged from talking about it? This is absolutely a
On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Jason Zietz wrote:
What would you call Current Design in this example?
Invisible.
Jared
Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)!
To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nobody is gagging you about anything.
They are just asking for a no-patent-discussion zone. It's a matter of
courtesy.
Think of the discussion as second-hand smoke.
Jared
On Jun 6, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Will Evans wrote:
This is neither a freedom of speech or a bill of rights issue. This
is
This is a sensitive topic that I can't pretend to know much about. But no
one is saying you can't talk about it. As your IxD peers, they are simply
asking you to discuss it somewhere in order to help them avoid a world of
legal pain. Seems completely reasonable.
Jeff
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:54
Will you are over-simplifying freedom of speech to an extreme, but
I won't go there at all.
My previous gig was for a financial document management organization.
Our product allowed people to share documents around due-diligence
processes. The people involved were often involved in securities
I have to come down on Jared's side here. You can talk about it all
you want. You will not be hauled away in the middle of the night. You
will not be prevented in any way from saying anything you like. You
will not wind up in jail, and you will not be charged with anything
stemming from this
On Jun 6, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Dan Saffer wrote:
Even knowing the existence of a patent can be legally troubling.
Interesting. So how many of you completely avoid every tech news site
(e.g. Engadget), which regularly post news items containing not only
the title and basic summary of the
Yes, it's true that this is not a free speech or Bill of Rights
issue. However, it's being taken to ridiculous extremes. Are the
people who are trying to maintain plausible deniability also going to
claim that they never visit a news site? No news.google, no cnet, no
cnn? Because, you know,
I'm working on an online project geared towards designers like us and would
love to know:
Where do you go for inspiration? Ideas? Trends?
Any and all thoughts are so helpful - thank you!
I'll be sure to post a link to the new site when it is live.
Thanks,
Carrie
We are looking at implementing 3D Secure for the Maestro card for
purchases in the UK and are going to use an inline i-frame on a site
page that is part of a multi-step checkout process. It isn't nearly
as bad as a pop-up and allows all transactions between the cardholder
and card issuer to occur
Anyone know of something like this happening in Los Angeles? Perhaps
a company that might be interested in hosting such an event?
On Jun 6, 2008, at 4:26 AM, Dan Brown wrote:
With a date like 8/8/08, we couldn't pass up an opportunity to launch
EightShapes' public workshops!
And so, join
Please post:
Adobe (NASDAQ: ADBE) revolutionizes how the world engages with ideas and
information. For 25 years, the company's award-winning software and
technologies have redefined business, entertainment, and personal
communications by setting new standards for producing and delivering
Please post:
Adobe Systems Incorporated is seeking a Senior User Experience Designer to join
the Creative Suite Design team.
As an Adobe Sr. Experience Designer, you will be responsible for creating great
experiences for several members of the Adobe product family. You will work
Hello,My team is running a research project aimed at attracting and keeping
what we consider to be the best Web designers in the industry. Part of this
research is focused on improving the toolset of our design team. To better
address their needs we have created a survey to check the pulse of our
Yeah, I saw that too, and deleted it. Actually, I also deleted the
name of the person I was responding to (in favor of just sending the
message exclusively to ixdadiscuss) but I never saw the message
posted, so.. guess you have to have a recipient, as well as CC the list.
On Jun 6, 2008,
I'd suggest Pulse: http://pulseapp.com/
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I don't know if I understand why we often try to find special
descriptions to call things.
The more that Rich interfaces become common, designers will make
attempts to create interactions and UI elements that work to solve
the problem.
In the example you sent, it looks to me like a series of tabs
Perhaps a solution for people who are concerned about tainted
inboxes would be to use the the web interface and turn off the list
mail. I use an RSS reader to track changes and comment via the
website, and find it to be very pleasant, and it leaves my inboxes
squeaky clean.
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I don't know if I understand why we often try to find special
descriptions to call things.
Having a commonly understood set of terminology makes life infinitely
easier during meetings. I find that half of the roadblocks we face
during design meetings are caused by terminology misunderstandings.
Are the people who are trying to maintain plausible deniability also going to
claim that they never visit a news site?
Or use a PC at a library? Or a friend's house? Or AOL or some other
proxy server? Or prove in the negative that they didn't access what's
otherwise publicly available? Etc.
On Jun 6, 2008, at 6:23 PM, Kontra wrote:
Are the people who are trying to maintain plausible deniability
also going to
claim that they never visit a news site?
Or use a PC at a library? Or a friend's house? Or AOL or some other
proxy server? Or prove in the negative that they didn't
people with law degrees already told us.
Are these the same people with law degrees who drafted RIAA's making
available strategy? Or a different set of legal merchants who peddle
the theoretical exposure = prior knowledge approach until it's
challenged?
Like I said, any sufficiently
Hi all,
Can y'all recommend some free Flash components for UI prototyping purposes?
I'm coming back to Flash after 4 years or so, and hoping that
something has emerged since then. Lately I've been asked to do a lot
of proof-of-concept type stuff for mobile and devices, so I'm looking
for
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