Re: make sysinstall/Makefile.preamble/GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DOMAIN

2008-12-15 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 15 Dec 2008, at 11:00, David Chisnall wrote: I still don't fully understand the rationale for moving system packages out of System. That would be because system packages haven't been moved out of System there's no plan to ever move them. What's happened is a change to avoid people

Re: make sysinstall/Makefile.preamble/GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DOMAIN

2008-12-15 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 15 Dec 2008, at 13:07, Fred Kiefer wrote: Richard's other ideas would be workable, but every GNUstep developer will need that, why not support it directly. Er ... I don't. I can just do 'make install' and everything works fine for me ... I really don't think you can say 'every GNUstep

Re: make sysinstall/Makefile.preamble/GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DOMAIN

2008-12-18 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 18 Dec 2008, at 19:58, Nicola Pero wrote: Let me know if there is any agreement on other pieces of software to include. Maybe we should include everything that is in the GNUstep subversion repository ? I was hoping for a smaller list, but at least that would provide an objective way

Re: GNUstep release [Was: New Slackware + GNUstep]

2008-12-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 18 Dec 2008, at 05:36, Adam Fedor wrote: I have plenty of time now. I'll start working on releases soon, although Richard will probably be doing the base release. OK, so we are doing a new base stable release at version 1.18.0 I committed that version number bump to the stable branch so

Re: make sysinstall/Makefile.preamble/GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DOMAIN

2008-12-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 19 Dec 2008, at 10:18, Nicola Pero wrote: Let me know if there is any agreement on other pieces of software to include. Maybe we should include everything that is in the GNUstep subversion repository ? I was hoping for a smaller list, but at least that would provide an objective way

Re: make sysinstall/Makefile.preamble/GNUSTEP_INSTALLATION_DOMAIN

2008-12-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 19 Dec 2008, at 13:30, Wolfgang Lux wrote: I'm sorry, to me this still looks too complicated. Instead of having a centralized package database somewhere, just check for an optional configuration file (e.g., installation_domain) that is present in the package's directory. I think the

GNUstep-Base New stable release now available

2008-12-22 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
1 Announcement ** ftp.gnustep.org pub/daily-snapshots The GNUstep Base Library, version 1.18.0, is now available. 1.1 What is the GNUstep Base Library? = The GNUstep Base Library is a library of general-purpose, non-graphical

New Unstable release of GNUstep-base available.

2008-12-22 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
1 Announcement ** ftp.gnustep.org pub/daily-snapshots The GNUstep Base Library, version 1.19.0, is now available. 1.1 What is the GNUstep Base Library? = The GNUstep Base Library is a library of general-purpose, non-graphical

Re: How work NSHelpPanel?

2008-12-26 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 27 Dec 2008, at 00:20, German Arias wrote: Hi, I want make a help panel to my app, but I don't know how work this. In Mac dev center there isn't information about this class. In docs.sun.com there is information, but don't work. I do this: I create a new folder with the name English.lproj

Re: How work NSHelpPanel?

2008-12-27 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 28 Dec 2008, at 05:30, German Arias wrote: :-( No, I get the same error 2008-12-26 18:12:19.372 Test2[5361] File NSView.m: 523. In [NSTextView -initWithFrame:] given negative width It's a very generic (ie could be from any view) error, so I suppose it could denote any one of a load of

Re: How work NSHelpPanel?

2008-12-28 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 29 Dec 2008, at 06:12, German Arias wrote: Hi, after install Thematic.app Info -- Help... Then, Ink.app run and load the help file. There isn't any Help Panel. That's normal behavior ... the application should launch the 'best' application to display the help page, and fall back to

Re: How work NSHelpPanel?

2008-12-29 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 29 Dec 2008, at 06:56, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 29 Dec 2008, at 06:12, German Arias wrote: Hi, after install Thematic.app Info -- Help... Then, Ink.app run and load the help file. There isn't any Help Panel. That's normal behavior ... the application should launch the 'best

Re: BASE RELEASE 1.19.0 corrupted

2009-01-02 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 1 Jan 2009, at 21:43, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi all, it seems to me that the unstable release 1.19.0 of base is corrupted on our main FTP and unavailable on the mirrors. Could someone check? Adam? Yes you are right ... it's size zero. I'm making a new copy and putting it up now.

Re: GNUstep developer meeting in January

2009-01-03 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 3 Jan 2009, at 16:48, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: rant What actually is the point in this? I think this will effectively distracting possible attendees from FOSDEM because it is so close by (timewise) The points for FOSDEM are (IMHO): - it is located more centrally in Europe

Re: GNUstep developer meeting in January

2009-01-03 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 3 Jan 2009, at 23:23, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, Richard, your presence would have been great at OrobienStep too. It is one single Ryanair flight from London, but I understand that it is an effort for you and if you need to choose, possibly Fosdem is better. A single flight from

Re: libobjc issue

2009-01-03 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 4 Jan 2009, at 00:06, Fred Kiefer wrote: Andreas Höschler wrote: fatal: libobjc.so.2: open failed: No such file or directory I searched for libobjc on both machines. On machine A I get find /usr/local/lib -name libobjc* /usr/local/lib/libobjc.so.2.0.0 /usr/local/lib/libobjc.la

Re: GNUstep and Theming...

2009-01-04 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 4 Jan 2009, at 22:55, Gregory John Casamento wrote: Hi all.. I'd like to re-prioritize one of the points I mentioned in the previous email. I think that theming should be much higher priority than I stated previously. I think it should be one of our top priorities at this point.

Re: ./configure --with-installation-domain

2009-01-05 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 6 Jan 2009, at 01:32, Yen-Ju Chen wrote: Hi, I just install a clean FreeBSD 7.1 and try to install GNUstep from svn. After gnustep-make, I did 'configure' on gnustep-base and it tells me to use 'configure --with-installation-domain'. I know there are changes in gnustep-make recently,

Re: ./configure --with-installation-domain

2009-01-07 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 7 Jan 2009, at 11:14, David Ayers wrote: Am Dienstag, den 06.01.2009, 17:55 + schrieb Nicola Pero: On 6 Jan 2009, at 17:50, Pete French wrote: No, the whole point of the changes is so that a newbie gets stuff installed where they expect, so we've altered things to install in the

Re: our Devroom - what do we want to do there - call for papers

2009-01-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 6 Jan 2009, at 00:57, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: Am 03.01.2009 um 19:12 schrieb h...@computer.org: Some thoughts (without priorities): 1. How to install and run GNUstep on Windows 2. The new Cairo Backend (Cairo - Fred) 3. Applications, Applications, Applications (GAP - Riccardo) 4.

Re: Can't mix native exceptions and ObjC++

2009-01-11 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 9 Jan 2009, at 22:08, Larry Campbell wrote: Had another go at this, with gnustep-make 2.0.8 and both gnustep- base 1.18.0 and 1.19.0, with the same result. So sad. I was tempted by the comment: 1.2 Noteworthy changes in version `1.19.0' == *

Re: Question about NSMenuView

2009-01-16 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 16 Jan 2009, at 13:20, Matt Rice wrote: i'll just go back to refraining from interfering aka contributing, because I only do this because it is a) fun and b) if I find it useful maybe others will arguing over stuff just makes it no fun, and when I lose said argument, nobody can find it

Re: Impelmenting NSWindows95InterfaceStyle

2009-01-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 19 Jan 2009, at 06:54, h...@computer.org wrote: On 19 Jan., 04:57, Germán Arias ger...@xelalug.org wrote: Hi, after inspect the source of NSMenu.m and others files. I think that I can try to implement the option NSWindows95InterfaceStyle. I have one idea to do that, and I want know

Re: Impelmenting NSWindows95InterfaceStyle

2009-01-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 19 Jan 2009, at 19:12, Germán Arias wrote: El lun, 19-01-2009 a las 13:46 +0100, Fred Kiefer escribió: Sounds like the right condition to decide whether to add a menu. But what should we do in the case, when there isn't a main window? Take for example the GSTest application that doesn't

Changes in trunk

2009-01-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
My latest commit to the base library in svn trunk hides some private internals of the memory management system, and this unfortunately means that code built with an older version will fail to link with an 'undefined reference' error. The solution is to rebuild all your code where any

Re: Impelmenting NSWindows95InterfaceStyle

2009-01-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 19 Jan 2009, at 23:10, David Chisnall wrote: On 19 Jan 2009, at 20:52, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: The normal solution to that is to disallow shrinking of the windowto be smaller than the menu, but another is to allow scrolling of the menu inside the window so that you can get

Re: NSOperation status

2009-01-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 19 Jan 2009, at 07:51, Sebastian Nowicki wrote: In the release notes for v1.16.0 [1] it is mentioned that NSOperation is on the to-do list. I'm wondering what the status of that is. As far as I can tell there's no support for it whatsoever. This is unfortunate as I would like to use

Re: NS_VALUERETURN

2009-01-20 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 20 Jan 2009, at 17:40, David Chisnall wrote: Hi Everyone, Looking at the documentation here: http://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Base/ProgrammingManual/manual_6.html It says exactly the opposite of the Cocoa documentation. On Cocoa, NS_VALUERETURN and

Re: First doubts about GNUstep

2009-01-20 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 20 Jan 2009, at 20:04, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi Ruiz wrote: Secondly, I would like to know what type of persistence use the average developer, because GDL2, seems abandoned? I don't think it's abandoned. The project I will start will need access to relational databases (interbase?

Re: Thematic don't work

2009-01-24 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 24 Jan 2009, at 06:14, Germán Arias wrote: Hi, after update Thematic.app, this don't work. I run Thematic, then select Theme- New and get the error GSTheme(instance) does not recognize setName: I'm not sure what update you are talking about, but you need to keep thematic and the gui

Re: Thematic don't work

2009-02-03 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 3 Feb 2009, at 08:28, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi wrote: I have the same issues on Windows builded with latest gui if this info can help. Cheers. Richard Frith-Macdonald escribió: On 24 Jan 2009, at 06:14, Germán Arias wrote: Hi, after update Thematic.app, this don't work. I run Thematic

Back from FOSDEM

2009-02-09 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
I just got back from FOSDEM this afternoon. The weekend was tiring, but a lot of fun and quite productive. I might write something more detailed about it tomorrow, but now I'd like to thank everyone who attended, and most particularly to thank Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf who provided the

Re: differences between gnustep and libFoundation while porting ogo

2009-02-12 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 12 Feb 2009, at 07:16, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: class: NSException name:NSGenericException reason: subclass WOHTTPURLHandle(class) should override cachedHandleForURL: info: So I took a look what GSHTTPURLHandler is doing, and for now I added the following to

Re: an error from the expression: CLS_ISCLASS((Class)receiver) File: sendmsg.c Line 321

2009-02-12 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 13 Feb 2009, at 07:19, Fred Kiefer wrote: I don't understand this error message either. It comes from the Objective-C runtime library ... where it's checking that the receiver is a valid class and not just some random bit of memory. To make any real sense of it we need a stacktrace to

Re: an error from the expression: CLS_ISCLASS((Class)receiver) File: sendmsg.c Line 321

2009-02-13 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 13 Feb 2009, at 12:31, David Chisnall wrote: On 13 Feb 2009, at 08:30, Truls Becken wrote: The other point I'd like to make is that importing AppKit/AppKit.h in AppController.h would simplify things a bit. I guess it's debatable whether this is better than declaring/importing only what

Re: easiest way to start messing with gnustep again?

2009-02-15 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 15 Feb 2009, at 05:59, dan wrote: The thing i remember having the most trouble with GNUstep was setting up all those daemons and i hope that by doing something in a vm i can make the process a little easier. You don't have to (and as far as I can recall have never had to) start daemons.

Re: no text shown in menus and windows

2009-02-17 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 17 Feb 2009, at 10:57, David Ayers wrote: Am Dienstag, den 17.02.2009, 09:50 +0100 schrieb Sebastian Reitenbach: I just installed gnustep-startup-0.22.0 on opensuse 11.0, i386, further I installed Gorm, Renaissance and GDL2 from svn. When I startup Gorm or DBModeler, then in the menus

Re: Presentations' / Talks' Slides (was Re: FOSDEM 2009 impressions summary)

2009-02-17 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 17 Feb 2009, at 15:45, Adam Fedor wrote: On Feb 14, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: P.S.: Last time I tried there was no media upload (whatever, images, PDFs, SVGs) possible in the wiki. Who is in charge of changing that? You should be able to upload files via the

Re: Need help understanding subclassing issue

2009-02-20 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 20 Feb 2009, at 13:10, David Chisnall wrote: My advice with regard to documentation is to stick to using the Apple docs and if you find something that doesn't work on GNUstep either implement it and send a patch, or file a bug report. Sounds good to me ... though I would say read

Re: is handling of UncaughtException broken on my system?

2009-02-20 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 20 Feb 2009, at 21:22, sylvain wrote: Hi, the program below does not work as I would have expected on my system. #include Foundation/Foundation.h void MyEHandler(NSException* exception) { NSLog(@exception: %...@\n,exception); } int main(int argc, const char *argv[]) { id pool =

Re: FOSDEM Aftermath - the Hotel / Notes from preparing and giving my talk

2009-02-21 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 21 Feb 2009, at 08:59, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: Hi, - while I am on it: I find the right click behaviour of GNUstep (show the main menu under the mouse, like OPENSTEP) quite dated. Mac OS X / Cocoa has a context based menu on right click nowadays (like every other platform). Maybe we

Re: NSTimer

2009-02-26 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 27 Feb 2009, at 01:58, Scott Christley wrote: Hello, I'm using the latest code from SVN. My program is using a repeated NSTimer much like this sample code, and it no longer seems to be working. Not sure how long ago it stopped working, I haven't used my code in many months. The

Re: NSTimer

2009-02-27 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 27 Feb 2009, at 11:15, David Chisnall wrote: The behavior on MacOS when I tested it was strange and inconsistent ... sometime the loop returned immediately as documented, sometimes it blocked. My suspicion is that MacOS-X has an undocumented feature of sometimes putting input sources

Re: gdnc

2009-03-11 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 11 Mar 2009, at 07:39, Truls Becken wrote: Justin Lolofie wrote: I understand that gdnc must be running or it is started automatically. In my case, it fails to start up automatically. When I triy to start it up myself, I get this message: failed to contact gdomap on

Re: GNUmakefile

2009-03-16 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 13 Mar 2009, at 14:14, Justin Lolofie wrote: So, I've written my first very simple command line tool with objc/ gnustep. Below is my GNUmakefile which works fine. Now I'd like to start using plausible database which is an objc sqlite wrapper. It contains 8 .h and 8 .m files. I'm

Re: Troubles with GNUstep Make

2009-03-17 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 17 Mar 2009, at 19:45, Torli Birnbauer wrote: I have recently installed GNUstep binaries with Synaptic Package Manager on my Ubuntu system, and subsequently started to study the Base Programming Manual, where I came across the following: Now create the makefile, again using your

Re: Troubles with GNUstep Make

2009-03-17 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 17 Mar 2009, at 20:32, Torli Birnbauer wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 19:59 +, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: On 17 Mar 2009, at 19:45, Torli Birnbauer wrote: I have recently installed GNUstep binaries with Synaptic Package Manager on my Ubuntu system, and subsequently started

Re: GNUstep introduces a serious security problem

2009-03-18 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:34, Tim Kack wrote: Yes, this seems to that is the case here - I read through some GNU docs as well (not that I do not trust your research Richard!). But since this might be confusing since GNUstep is supposed to be cross platform. On Windows you get: '$

Re: GNUStep and Cocoa Distributed Objects compatibility

2009-03-22 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 22 Mar 2009, at 10:23, Piotr Isajew wrote: Hello I would like to use Distributed Objects to communicate through the network between Objective C GNU Step application (let's say running on Linux) and it's Mac OS X counterpart). Does anybody have any experience using DO in such

Re: NSZoneMallocAtomic disappeared from NSZone.h in -trunk

2009-03-24 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 24 Mar 2009, at 06:30, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: sope doesn't compile anymore with gnustep-base trunk. When I take a look at the code in sope, how it is using NSZoneMallocAtomic there I see, it is using NSZoneMallocAtomic everywhere but for NeXT_Foundation_LIBRARY I guess, it may

Re: stringByDeletingLastPathComponent

2009-03-29 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 29 Mar 2009, at 04:06, Omniscient wrote: On Mar 28, 11:40 pm, Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de wrote: Am 27.03.2009 um 23:10 schrieb oren: [@//host/share stringByDeletingLastPathComponent] produces @ and looks like a bug the doc said @//host/share should produces @/host/share removing ^/ ?

Re: defaults read executed inside msys not finding .GNUstepDefaults

2009-06-02 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 2 Jun 2009, at 15:38, Paul Terres wrote: GNUstep is not returning the user home directory correctly inside the msys shell. eg) Running defaults read from the ms command prompt it finds the .GNUstepDefaults file at C:\Documents and Settings\username \GNUstep\Defaults. However running

Re: Issue with NSLanguages in startup 0.23.0

2009-06-02 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 2 Jun 2009, at 19:15, Germán Arias wrote: If I write into a shell defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSLanguages (Spanish) this is write in .GNUstep.conf file, but after the definition of NSGlobalDomain. In other words, there are two NSGlobalDomain definition. The first with my keys

Re: Finding and Loading Bundles

2009-06-17 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 16 Jun 2009, at 23:49, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: I'll try to be to the point... I'm need to be able to find some bundles that conform to a particular protocol so that I can load them and maybe use them. I've been reading the Apple docs and I already know how to search the bundle

Re: Comparing @encode() output

2009-06-18 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 18 Jun 2009, at 01:53, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: Pretty straight forward quesiton, how do I compare the output of @encode? Instead of using bits per sample in the NSSound plug-in implementation I decided to use encoding since int and float both have the same number of bits. The only

Re: Comparing @encode() output

2009-06-18 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 18 Jun 2009, at 12:23, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: Thanks Richard. I'll use an approach close to what you mentioned there. Since I'll be doing something like that I might go a step further and also try to support other data types (like uLaw and aLaw audio). Do you think it would be a

Re: Comparing @encode() output

2009-06-18 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 18 Jun 2009, at 15:00, Stefan Bidigaray wrote: Just one more question... how sensible is it to use those OSTypes to do it? I've seen them all over the Apple docs, but gcc spits out a bunch of warnings. Something like: enum { GSSoundUChar = 'UCHR' GSSoundSChar = 'CHAR'

Re: Problems with NSSocketPort and DO on WINDOWS

2009-06-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 19 Jun 2009, at 16:03, Samantha Rahn wrote: All, I have been having a variety of trouble with DO on Windows when communicating across hosts. I suspect that inter-host DO on windows might currently be broken ... it's an awful long time since I tried it, and if nobody is actively using

Re: GNUmakefile and autogsdoc

2009-07-31 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 31 Jul 2009, at 17:03, Martin Kalbfuß wrote: Hi Community, I'm new to gnustep. I try to set up a GNUmakefile. But I'm not sure how to organize the source distribution for my library. My current distribution directory structure consists only of one directory. No sub projects or

Re: My name isn't accepted by autogsdoc

2009-08-04 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 2 Aug 2009, at 23:06, Martin Kalbfuß wrote: As you can see m?y name has a non-ASCII letter at the end. autogsdoc doesn't translate it correctly to the html page. The last letter is lost. Is there a possibility to get this working? The current code should be producing utf-8 output

Re: Problems with GNUMail or GSDecorationView?

2009-08-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 19 Aug 2009, at 09:38, Tim Kack wrote: Note, at this point _delegate will be 0xdeadface because the EditWindowController has been deallocated and therefore respondsToSelector will crash. Now, my question is - is this a GNUMail bug (i.e. the NSToolbar should have been deallocated

Re: General question about GNUStep

2009-08-25 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 25 Aug 2009, at 17:17, Nicolas Roard wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM, David Chisnallthera...@sucs.org wrote: I'm not sure why this follows. Just because you can't use DO doesn't mean you can't use GNUstep on the server. By the way, in theory it ought to be possible to port

Re: GNUmakfiles - sources must be in project's root?

2009-08-26 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:31, Juergen Lorenz Simon wrote: Hi, I'm trying to shoehorn GNUstep onto an existing project. During the creation of the GNUstep makefile (originally I had the luxury of cmake), I found I could not add sources like this: foo_OBJC_FILES = src/App/main.mm \

Re: framework

2009-08-27 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 27 Aug 2009, at 14:41, David Chisnall wrote: On 27 Aug 2009, at 11:24, Michael Thaler wrote: Objective C is not in the list but I doubt that Objective C would be much faster then Java if you actually use Objective C and not just a plain C subset. And Scala also runs on the JVM and is

Re: Objective-C 2.0

2009-09-02 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 2 Sep 2009, at 12:17, Michael Thaler wrote: Hi, I am currently learning Objective-C on the Mac (using that book:-)) and I was wondering if Objective-C 2.0 is available on Linux and if it can be used for gnustep development. If it is available is it ok to use it for gnustep? If it is

Re: Please test new NSLock implementation!

2009-09-02 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 2 Sep 2009, at 14:12, David Chisnall wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just committed a new version of all of the NSLock family of classes to GNUstep-base, and a slightly reworked NSThread. Bugs in this code have the potential to break any multithreaded applications, so please test them on

Re: Please test new NSLock implementation!

2009-09-06 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 4 Sep 2009, at 08:29, Wolfgang Lux wrote: Fred Kiefer wrote: The old version used objc_mutex_t, which was a void*. A mutex is typically either one or two words, depending on the implementation. Using malloc for this is very wasteful, both in terms of speed, cache usage, and memory

Re: User's GNUstep directory

2009-09-18 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 18 Sep 2009, at 16:03, Philippe Roussel wrote: Hi all, Currently I'm using the hardcoded path @~/GNUstep/Library/ SimpleAgenda to save the local calendars users create in SimpleAgenda (if I create a local agenda called 'private', it will be saved in the file

Re: question for gdb users...

2009-09-24 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 24 Sep 2009, at 04:40, Matt Rice wrote: there is some discussion here about removing the convenience mechanism that allows you to go break foo where foo then turns into -[class foo] this causes lots of issues which are fairly hard to fix in gdb, which is why the whole 'break main' with

Re: question for gdb users...

2009-09-24 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 24 Sep 2009, at 08:50, Matt Rice wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Richard Frith-Macdonald rich...@tiptree.demon.co.uk wrote: On 24 Sep 2009, at 04:40, Matt Rice wrote: snip The specific problem is that gdb resets breakpoints upon shared library load, in case symbols were

Re: Problems building gnustep-back on fedora 8

2009-09-30 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 30 Sep 2009, at 19:13, Pablo Giménez wrote: Yep I have all the core packages compiled and installed, tomorrow I will try to install the extra libs The problem was that the locale must be an utf, I had en_GB in the LANG environmetn variable, when I have changed it to en.GB.utf8 it

Re: Building some extra libs (renaissance, gnustep-guile,

2009-10-01 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 1 Oct 2009, at 11:54, Pablo Giménez wrote: Hi After been able to build the core packages now I face the extra libs. Well I have tried to build some of them, I have to admit whithout luck, here are my problems: - Renaissance 0.8.0: I checked in svn ... the author made a 0.9.0 release 18

Re: Building some extra libs (renaissance, gnustep-guile,

2009-10-02 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 2 Oct 2009, at 11:34, Pablo Giménez wrote: - SQLClient 1.3.0 I can't configure the package I am trying with the next configure statement: ./configure --disable-jdbc-bundle --with-additional-include=-I/usr/ include Just running ./configure should be sufficient, though the options you

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-07 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 7 Oct 2009, at 20:24, Gregory Casamento wrote: Guys, There are a number of things which need to change on the project: We need to: 1) improve our website. It's been the same for years and doesn't reflect our progress. I've been dissatisfied with it too. Not the basic appearance, which

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 7 Oct 2009, at 22:28, Stef Bidi wrote: The second, which is a little deeper, is that there's no way to globally define defaults. If I'm out there creating a GNUstep package (and I mostly do for Slackware, I just need to get on it for 13.0) there's not way for me to set a default,

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 7 Oct 2009, at 23:37, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Richard, could you add the ability to change the theme icon in Thematic? It's already there ... just click on it, and an open panel will come up for you to select the new icon image. ___

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 7 Oct 2009, at 23:00, David Chisnall wrote: On 7 Oct 2009, at 22:38, Matt Rice wrote: On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Stef Bidi stefanb...@gmail.com wrote: snip 13.0) there's not way for me to set a default, preferred theme--which is what the GUI toolkits above allow you to

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:32, David Chisnall wrote: On 8 Oct 2009, at 07:29, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: GlobalDefaults.plist does that. Two questions then: - Is this actually documented anywhere? I see a vague reference to it in NSUserDefaults, but packagers are absolutely not going

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 8 Oct 2009, at 12:00, David Chisnall wrote: On 8 Oct 2009, at 11:50, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: - How does this allow a packager to install and remove defaults as part of package installation / uninstallation? Presumably you can use plmerge to install them (again

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 8 Oct 2009, at 12:46, David Chisnall wrote: On 8 Oct 2009, at 12:22, Richard Frith-Macdonald wrote: You are right, I did misunderstand ... I understood the term 'packager' to refer to the person/people responsible for providing GNUstep with a distribution ... ie for a set of packages

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 8 Oct 2009, at 16:45, Nicola Pero wrote: It would undoubtedly be good to have some packager-specific documentation, but obviously the target readership is a very small group We *do* have packager documentation, in core/make/README.Packaging Yes, but I was meaning on the website

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 8 Oct 2009, at 17:29, Matt Rice wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:30 AM, Richard Frith-Macdonald rich...@tiptree.demon.co.uk wrote: OK ... we just have different perceptions here then. In those circumstances I expect a package to be *available* to all users, but NOT to be automatically

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-09 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 9 Oct 2009, at 13:03, Felix Holmgren wrote: While I sympathize with David who prefers (or is used) to some other coding style, the GNUstep project needs a consistent coding style and the GNU coding standard are as good a choice as any. Since GNUstep is a GNU project, it's a natural

Re: Themes [Was: Changes I've been thinking of...]

2009-10-12 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 12 Oct 2009, at 06:10, Germán Arias wrote: El dom, 11-10-2009 a las 13:34 +0200, Fred Kiefer escribió: Germán Arias schrieb: 3) Themes: Well, there are currently people working on it. Are you sure about that? Riccardo has build at least one theme. I have heard that Greg was building a

Re: Changes I've been thinking of...

2009-10-13 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 12 Oct 2009, at 23:21, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, Germán Arias wrote: El lun, 12-10-2009 a las 19:33 +0200, Michael Thaler escribió: But so far my experiences weren't that great. I tried to create a project with project center. No icons are shown at all, so Project Center is not

Re: Window manager interaction

2009-10-16 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 15 Oct 2009, at 21:34, Philippe Roussel wrote: Hi all, When using GNUstep applications under a Gnome desktop and it's Metacity window manager, I often 'lose' those applications : if I minimize a windows, it appears in the task bar as expected but if I hide the application there's nothing

Re: Debug info in debian/ubuntu gnustep-examples

2009-10-21 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 21 Oct 2009, at 19:39, Fred Kiefer wrote: Eduardo Osorio Armenta schrieb: Hello GNUstep community I'm new to this list; First of all great environment/framework/ tools, KUDOS to all DEVs. I'm becoming a fan/user of WindowMaker/GNUstep in ubuntu 9.04 I hope you get me a little

Re: GNUstep dev environment

2009-11-10 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 8 Nov 2009, at 21:19, HalypH wrote: Hi all, I'm newbie in GNUstep (and in Objective-C). What is the best dev environment for GNUstep? I'm using text editor (Vim) and console build, plus 'insight' as gdb front-end. But it doesn't like fast development environment for me. I use vim

Re: GNUstep FOSDEM devroom request proposal

2009-11-16 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 17 Nov 2009, at 01:16, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: Hi, I am going to make the following request for a devroom at FOSDEM on thursday or friday. If you have any additional input or are member of a GNUstep related project which wants to join in please let me know. One point I'd like

Re: gnustep-base package tried to download dtd from the internet

2009-11-22 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 22 Nov 2009, at 20:49, Jochen Schmitt wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo, I'm the maintainer of the gnustep-base package in the Fedora distribution. Unfortunately, I have the following issue. When I try to make a make -C Documentation install the package

Re: Launched applications

2009-11-28 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 29 Nov 2009, at 01:33, Germán Arias wrote: Hi Richard Is there a way to get the apps launched?. I need this on GSTaskBar to remove the icons of apps killed. NSWorkspace have the method +launchedApplications, but this info isn't up to date. Then GSTaskBar can't work appropriately. Is

Re: Arguments of +connectionWithRegisteredName:host:

2009-11-30 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 1 Dec 2009, at 02:20, Germán Arias wrote: Look this http://www.gnustep.it/nicola/Tutorials/DistributedObjects/node7.html In fact, this question born from this example. I discussed this with Nicola, and he suggested talk this here. The example dates from before the time Apple changed

Re: What is needed to run a tool like a daemon?

2009-12-02 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 3 Dec 2009, at 06:35, Germán Arias wrote: As you know I'm working on GSTaskBar. Until now I run GSTB from a terminal. But when I try start this tool in my .profile file (where I start gbps and gdnc) I can not start my session. The error occurs because GSTB can't register with the name

Re: What is needed to run a tool like a daemon?

2009-12-02 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 3 Dec 2009, at 07:34, Saso Kiselkov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And what's stopping you from simply forking into the background? Like with the following: if (daemon (0, 0) == -1) { NSLog (@Error daemonizing: %s, strerror (errno)); exit

Re: What is needed to run a tool like a daemon?

2009-12-03 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 3 Dec 2009, at 08:04, Saso Kiselkov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sure it's unportable, which is why I always include a custom implementation of daemon() with my code which works on most *nixes :-). Using NSTask works on ms-windows as well. Of course, you can

Re: Newbie on docsetutil

2009-12-19 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 19 Dec 2009, at 08:48, va...@telecom.ece.ntua.gr va...@telecom.ece.ntua.gr wrote: Hi, I downloaded cocoa.vim and I ws browsing through the scripts (I am not expert). I noticed that it could be modified to contain the gnustep keywords, but the most intriguing part was the fact that it

Re: GNUstep build problem

2010-01-08 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 8 Jan 2010, at 11:25, Andreas Höschler wrote: Hi all, since all my attempts to get GNUstep to work with my gcc 4.2.3 I am considering to retry from scratch even with another gcc version. Can anyone recommend a gcc version that is known to cause the least problems with the latest

Re: FOSDEM and beyond (next stable release of base)

2010-02-11 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 9 Feb 2010, at 22:51, Riccardo Mottola wrote: In this release, move to compatibility with the Apple objc runtime as much as possible. What does this mean? are we going to require libobjc2 ?? I meant that we should use the libobjc2 API as our 'standard' going forward so that, rather

Re: FOSDEM and beyond (next stable release of base)

2010-02-14 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 14 Feb 2010, at 15:14, ici...@mail.cg.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Hi! Today's trunk does not build anymore on my machine. I noticed Richard merged his reorg branch into trunk. I get a lot of Warning: objc/runtime.h: No such file or directory. Configure is checking for objc/objc.h and

Re: Help Files

2010-02-17 Thread Richard Frith-Macdonald
On 17 Feb 2010, at 09:35, J. Jordan wrote: Where do Help files (bundles) belong? I assume in xxx.app/Resources but I cannot find that in writing anywhere (and I did look for it). I am not refering to man pages or info pages, I am refering to xxx.help as used by HelpViewer.app

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