Re: [Distutils] a plea for backward-compatibility / smooth transitions

that we need to urgently address, and I've written a short note explaining why. This note is incomplete, badly edited, has not been peer-reviewed, and is not ready for publication, but I thought it might help folks evaluate how urgent it is to upgrade from MD5, so here it is. Regards, Zooko

Re: [Distutils] a plea for backward-compatibility / smooth transitions

and SHA-3, so I'm not pushing to add support for it. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Migrating Hashes from MD5 to SHA256

more or less said that the major reason they believe that MD5 hasn't had a published pre-image attack is just because it's so broken that most researchers have moved on to newer hashes. Who said that? That contradicts my beliefs. Thanks! Regards, Zooko

Re: [Distutils] vetting, signing, verification of release files

and small so it is easy to embed them directly into the metadata next to things like URLs and Author Names). I don't know if it still does. There's a PEP that mentions JWS signatures: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0427/ Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] Python packaging + conditional use of C library shipped with the package

the normal thing that distutils has always done for modules made up of compiled C code. By the way, if I were starting pycryptopp today I would use cffi. (And I would name it crpyto.) Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] Using code from a dependency in setup.py

of complicated things going then and there, and because it is very inconvenient to write unit tests of setup.py behavior. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

[Distutils] [issue137] test_get_script_header_jython_workaround expects output on stdout, but it is on stderr instead

New submission from Zooko O'Whielacronx zo...@zooko.com: This unit test fails on CPython 2.7.1 and pypy 1.7: FAIL: test_get_script_header_jython_workaround (setuptools.tests.test_resources.ScriptHeaderTests) -- Traceback (most

Re: [Distutils] Packaging situation + mailing list rules

and they will be grateful. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

[Distutils] [issue105] include a copy of the licence text

New submission from Zooko O'Whielacronx zo...@zooko.com: I am trying to get Tahoe-LAFS listed on the FSF/UNESCO directory of Free Software: http://directory.fsf.org/ . One of the sticking points is that Tahoe-LAFS includes a copy of setuptools (http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe-lafs/browser

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

they are really just a piece of what is getting packaged. Bingo! A package is something that you deliver to someone else and they use it. You don't deliver __init__.py directories to people. __init__.py directories are not packages. Regards, Zooko

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] packaging terminology confusion

, but today there are too many of them. We have the option of either carrying on status quo with recurring confusion and clarification, or adopting the terminology that people already expect. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils

[Distutils] [issue95] [PATCH] ez_setup.py fails when pkg_resources is installed but setuptools is not

New submission from Zooko O'Whielacronx zo...@zooko.com: This just happened on Ubuntu Karmic: HACL zooko-desktop:/sdb/zooko/ecometry2rabbit/ecometry2rabbit$ /usr/bin/python setup.py test Traceback (most recent call last): File setup.py, line 2, in module use_setuptools() File /sdb/zooko

Re: [Distutils] Distribute and setuptools: what are the differences

to the other without having to relearn anything. Please report any bugs. Thanks! Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Setuptools 0.6c10 release imminent; please test

? Thanks, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] dev versions

On Friday,2009-10-09, at 6:25 , Benji York wrote: On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn zo...@zooko.com wrote: What we do in the Tahoe-LAFS project is we don't count down to a future version, we only count up from a past version. This is also what Twisted does

Re: [Distutils] dev versions

to make a new release! Please try the current version (1.4.1-r4021) and tell us if it works for you!. Regards, Zooko [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/darcsver ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

. There are a lot of people who have constraints on what they they can deploy and when, so it wouldn't hurt to have both fixes available. (Also, one of the fixes might not get done in a timely way.) Thanks, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

and the more lenient setuptools and Distribute are with respect to what version of Python they require, the better for everyone. Thank you kindly for your attention. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

to contribute more in the future. Having a policy of actively working to maintain stability across stable updates will help everyone. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

. Not because he's wrong! Maybe it *is* so-and-so's fault. But what I'm looking for in the maintainer of a stable platform is someone who says Maybe this wasn't our fault, but here are the steps we're taking to get you back on your feet as soon as possible.. Regards, Zooko

Re: [Distutils] SIP/PyQt and distutils

/current/cplusplus-sig/ Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] how do I add some functionality to my setup.py which is testable and modular?

-compatible build extensions to be accepted by Glyph. This requires that they be testable. Please help me understand how to write build extensions which are testable. Regards, Zooko On Sunday,2009-08-16, at 14:16 , Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn wrote: Folks: I have a recurring problem

Re: [Distutils] Low Level API for translating distutils/setuptools metatdata to Debian metadata

Dependencies for that distribution. Regards, Zooko [1] http://allmydata.org/buildbot-pycryptopp/waterfall [2] http://allmydata.org/buildbot-zfec/waterfall ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

[Distutils] idea for Distribute: make unzipped eggs be the default

measurement of performance, but the few times that people briefly glanced at performance it seemed like zipping the eggs made them slower to load, not faster.) Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

[Distutils] [issue83] I wish setuptools would prefer v1.4.1 in binary egg format over v1.4.5 in sdist format when I'm requiring = v1.1.0

New submission from Zooko O'Whielacronx zo...@zooko.com: It is often the case that a binary .egg is usable and an sdist is not (when the package requires compiling C or C++ code). Here is an example where this is currently happening: http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/ticket/773#comment:7 Tahoe

Re: [Distutils] [Distribute] What versions should we support?

setuptools2, I mean Zup2lsNG, currently still supports Python 2.4, but it is a bit of a hassle and I'm hoping to drop support for Python 2.4 before we switch to Zup2ls anyway. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] Single version number

./setup.py build) but is instead being built inside a more complicated setting, such as when it is one of the module being packaged up by py2exe, or when it is the dependency of something which is being built by setuptools: http://divmod.org/trac/ticket/2699 Regards, Zooko

Re: [Distutils] setup_requires not caching downloaded packages?

that location. Regards, Zooko [1] http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/browser/setup.cfg ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] sdist default archive format

://bugs.python.org/setuptools/issue6 Regards, Zooko $ ls -lS -rw-rw-r-- 1 zooko zooko 8355840 2009-06-17 09:48 allmydata- tahoe-1.4.1-r3916.tar -rw-rw-r-- 1 zooko zooko 2562835 2009-06-17 09:51 allmydata- tahoe-1.4.1-r3916.zip -rw-rw-r-- 1 zooko zooko 2383653 2009-06-17 09:48 allmydata- tahoe

[Distutils] post-release revisions (was: recollections of Pycon distutils versioning discussion (part 1))

the authority to agree to anything on behalf of the Twisted or setuptools projects -- I was just agreeing to stop arguing about it. :-)) Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils

Re: [Distutils] recollections of Pycon distutils versioning discussion (part 2)

sure whether I'm willing to change it to $MAJ.$MIN.$MIC.$COUNT. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] recollections of Pycon distutils versioning discussion (part 2)

to use the same spelling for .snapshot / -r / .post? This would not effect any version comparison, but it would be nice for us humans if everyone chose the same word when they mean the same thing. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist

Re: [Distutils] Packaging: bdist_deb patches

patch is committed to the revision control repository: http://allmydata.org/buildbot-pycryptopp/builders/linux-amd64-ubuntu- hardy-yukyuk/builds/82/steps/stdeb/logs/stdio Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

[Distutils] [issue78] egg platform names don't reflect unicode variant (UCS2, UCS4)

New submission from Zooko O'Whielacronx zo...@zooko.com: A user of Tahoe-LAFS encountered an error in which pyOpenSSL emitted: exceptions.UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 0-5: unsupported Unicode code range It took some effort on the part of the user

Re: [Distutils] Specifying version information once

the advantage that the implementation of this feature is not in your setup.py but is in setuptools or in a setuptools plugin such as setuptools_hg or setuptools_bzr. :-) Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] Questionnaire: Why do you use setuptools?

that already exist. So if distutils2 can re-use extant setuptools plugins, then that would be handy. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Questionnaire: Why do you use setuptools?

register 8. revision control integration; I want all files under revision control to be included in packages. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Questionnaire: Why do you use setuptools?

Ugh. Sorry -- I was on a plane when I composed this and I accidentally sent it the next time I connected to the Net before adding the references. Here they are: On Apr 20, 2009, at 18:06 PM, Zooko O'Whielacronx wrote: Roughly in order of most important to least important: 1. a formal

Re: [Distutils] How to make easy_install handle platlibs?

system, you would also need to know whether the Python was compiled with UCS-2 or UCS-4 internal unicode representation, as well as what version of glibc you have. Is there anything else that would need to be added into the egg name? Regards, Zooko

Re: [Distutils] Buildout recipe for managing .deb packages?

! I'm not saying that it isn't a learning curve. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] RFC: Updating PEP 345

' is intended for non-Python tools and 'setup_requires' currently works only for Python packages (distributions). Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] RFC: Updating PEP 345

expressed my opinion on the issue with sufficient thoroughness that I can now leave the decision up to you. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Distutils changes - end user requirements (Was: Deprecate MANIFEST.in)

platforms, for example. The latter I haven't tried. Just a minute... Zooko tries python setup.py bdist_wininst. (See appendix A.) Secondly, the package can be automatically installed when the user easy_installs a *different* package which depends on my package. The Tahoe project

Re: [Distutils] Distutils changes - end user requirements (Was: Deprecate MANIFEST.in)

, then the .egg can be automatically installed with no manual effort on my part. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Distutils changes - end user requirements (Was: Deprecate MANIFEST.in)

distutils to support eggs worse, when what they really want is for it to support debs better (which I hope stdeb will ultimately do). Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Distutils] Deprecate MANIFEST.in

with regard to --prefix= Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Deprecate MANIFEST.in

Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Deprecate MANIFEST.in

it is a little separately-packaged plugin it was easy for me to fix it and distribute a fixed plugin. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Deprecate MANIFEST.in

, and package_data provide control over the behavior. Regards, Zooko [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyutil [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zfec [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pycryptopp [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/dupfilefind [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zbase32 [1] http://pypi.python.org/pypi

Re: [Distutils] PEP 376 and the name .egg-info?

to pay attention and notice that even though it has egg in its name it is now a core Python feature which is supported by the core Python team. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

[Distutils] classifier for setuptools plugins

=524 There follows a patch that I submitted to recommend this in the setuptools docs. I thought that PJE had already accepted this patch, but it isn't there. PJE: please accept the following patch. Regards, Zooko diff -rN -u old-dw/setuptools.txt new-dw/setuptools.txt --- old-dw

Re: [Distutils] Packaging: bdist_deb patches

Tarek: Will the bdist_deb code be based on or copied from the existing stdeb tool? Should people who are interested in bdist_deb be using stdeb right now in order to find bugs in it and learn what they like/ dislike about it? Regards, Zooko

Re: [Distutils] [zc.buildout] buildout to .deb package

By the way, stdeb builds .deb files from distutils-packaged Python source distributions as well as from setuptools-packaged Python source distributions. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [Distutils] patch: solving the two major things that people dislike about setuptools, part 1

.html Here's the ticket: http://bugs.python.org/setuptools/issue53 # respect the PYTHONPATH Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

[Distutils] permissions and GNU stow (was: PEP 376 for Distutils)

*editing* files such as .pth files). Regards, Zooko --- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem -- http://allmydata.org store your data: $10/month -- http://allmydata.com/?tracking=zsig ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] Solaris and distutils: Need to pass LIBDIR explicitly with -L when building extensions?

are compatible with the proprietary compiler used to build the official Python 2.6! Regards, Zooko P.S. Whoops, sorry. This message was total flame-bait and off-topic to boot. But it has been bugging me, and I feel better for having gotten it off my chest

Re: [Distutils] [Python Language Summit] Distutils / Packaging survey

Thanks for the information, Josselin: On Jan 29, 2009, at 7:10 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 28 janvier 2009 à 07:44 -0700, zooko a écrit : 3. It would be okay for this process to be automated (or semi- automated), but there's some flaw in the design of stdeb which means

[Distutils] (no subject)

uploaded by those authorized people. Regards, Zooko --- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem -- http://allmydata.org store your data: $10/month -- http://allmydata.com/?tracking=zsig ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] Uninstall command, the return

development process that you are undergoing that GNU stow compatibility has many benefits. Regards, Zooko --- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem -- http://allmydata.org store your data: $10/month -- http://allmydata.com/?tracking=zsig

Re: [Distutils] [Python Language Summit] Distutils / Packaging survey

/ python-$PKG. In other words, what would be the new metadata we could put in the setup.py in the package to minimize the work to be done on stdeb side ? Yes, exactly! Regards, Zooko --- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem -- http://allmydata.org store your data: $10/month -- http

Re: [Distutils] [Python Language Summit] Distutils / Packaging survey

of stdeb which means it will never be able to do it right unless stdeb is rewritten with a new design. 4. It would be okay, and the general design of stdeb is okay, but there are some bugs in stdeb which currently cause it to produce the wrong results. Thanks! Regards, Zooko --- Tahoe

Re: [Distutils] [Python Language Summit] Distutils / Packaging survey

except scripts) simply by removing the .egg. I see that PJE has replied to http://bugs.python.org/setuptools/ issue54 . I'll follow-up on that ticket. Regards, Zooko [1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2008-March/078243.html --- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem -- http

[Distutils] announcing setuptools_trial -- a setuptools plugin to run unit tests with trial

, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] [Python Language Summit] Distutils / Packaging survey

are the potential problems, but so far I've been happy using stdeb to produce .deb's from my Python sdists. Regards, Zooko --- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem -- http://allmydata.org store your data: $10/month -- http://allmydata.com/?tracking=zsig

Re: [Distutils] including an empty directory

if calling that twisted/plugins directory a data file or an included package data makes more sense, but the former currently works. Regards, Zooko --- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem -- http://allmydata.org store your data: $10/month -- http://allmydata.com/?tracking=zsig

Re: [Distutils] Problems installing Easy Install/Setup Tools (segmentation fault)

This seems unlikely to be setuptools-specific, but more likely a problem with your Python interpreter. What python binary are you using? Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

[Distutils] [issue57] develop doesn't create .pth files and site.py if --multi-version

New submission from Zooko O'Whielacronx zo...@zooko.com: The allmydata.org tahoe-lafs project uses ./setup.py develop to build. We have started having problems with older versions of dependencies already being installed, so we want to add --multi-version to the ./setup.py develop command

[Distutils] let's have a new release of stdeb!

questions to the distutils-SIG So, how about it? Regards, Zooko --- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem -- http://allmydata.org store your data: $10/month -- http://allmydata.com/?tracking=zsig ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] patch: solving the two major things that people dislike about setuptools, part 1

to let everyone know that any setuptools variant (including a future release of PJE's setuptools) that respects the PYTHONPATH will get at least two users! Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org

Re: [Distutils] Bug? zimpimporter putting in a misleading co_filename?

On Dec 22, 2008, at 20:51 PM, Rocky Bernstein wrote: I recently cut over to using distutils to distribute open-source software. distutils decided to create an zipimporter egg. (Well, I'm sure it did what it did for good reason, I just am not all that aware of what I did to cause it too

[Distutils] ?t=info

Folks: I pointed easy_install at this server: http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/wiki/PackageMirror This is very cool because the files are stored on a secure, decentralized storage grid. (Details on http://allmydata.org , especially http://allmydata.org/~zooko/lafs.pdf .) However

Re: [Distutils] ?t=info

that it finds the eggs on that page and doesn't stop with Unexpected HTML page found after following the other links. Maybe tomorrow! Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] Are egg files needed when building/installing via --root?

policy is a good one: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Python/Eggs Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem http://allmydata.com -- back up all your files for $10/month ___ Distutils-SIG maillist

[Distutils] wx egg

://lists.wxwidgets.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?11:mss: 73095:200802:hndcapodnmpbdhbnmgpn On the other hand the Enthought folks seem to have gotten pretty far without that, two years ago: https://svn.enthought.com/enthought/ticket/1178 Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG

Re: [Distutils] Are egg files needed when building/installing via --root?

for $operating_system_distribution, or you may not, but either way I truly appreciate that nowadays you preserve the .egg- info files so that I have the option of doing it this way. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Distutils] Are egg files needed when building/installing via --root?

to strip out .egg- info files and then changes their policy and now leave them unmolested: Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu. Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

[Distutils] [issue53] respect the PYTHONPATH

New submission from Zooko O'Whielacronx [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is a patch to let elements of the PYTHONPATH environment variable maintain precedence with regard to installed eggs, while still allowing installed eggs to maintain their precedence with regard to installed non-eggs: http

[Distutils] [issue54] be more like distutils with regard to --prefix=

New submission from Zooko O'Whielacronx [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is a patch to create --prefix= subtree if it doesn't already exist and another patch to treat that's not on the sys.path as a warning instead of a hard error. This fixes one of the most common complaints that I heard when I asked

[Distutils] patch: solving the two major things that people dislike about setuptools, part 1

(os.environ.get ('PYTHONPATH','').split(os.pathsep))); sys.path[p:p]=new; sys.__egginsert = p+len(new)\n ) % data Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem http://allmydata.com -- back up all your files for $10/month [1] http

[Distutils] patch: solving the two major things that people dislike about setuptools, part 2

, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem http://allmydata.com -- back up all your files for $10/month [1] http://adam.gomaa.us/blog/easy-install-isnt/ [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/pyopenssl/+bug/238658/comments/25

Re: [Distutils] Symlinks vs API -- question for developers

that hack using __file__ that was mentioned as an alternative, so from my perspective as a poor, dumb, working developer, that __file__ thing is more confusing than the pkg_resources API is. Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem http://allmydata.com

Re: [Distutils] Simultaneous multi-version support

. We are considering experimenting with the multi-version feature of eggs, but haven't tried it yet. pkg_resources.require() is not particularly problematic for us as far as I recall. Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem http://allmydata.com -- back

Re: [Distutils] pre-PEP : Synthesis of previous threads, and irc talks + proposals

the package - PyPI should display the install and test dependencies in the UI - The XML-RPC should provide this new metadata as well. - a commenting system should allow developers and packagers to give more infos on a package at PyPI to make the work easier +1 Regards, Zooko [1] http

Re: [Distutils] pre-PEP : Synthesis of previous threads, and irc talks + proposals

, and declarative. The latter question isn't. In most cases there is only one implementation of a given interface, so we make do by equating the interface with the implementation. I wonder how Debian and Fedora handle this sort of issue? Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least

Re: [Distutils] [pyconuk] just use debian

the next step is to write a PEP that supercedes the parts of PEP-345 which are about dependency metadata and instead says that the standard way to encode Python dependency metadata is in the EGG-INFO/requires.txt file. Regards, Zooko [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~astraw/stdeb/autofind

[Distutils] backwards compatibility for packaging tools

(), then it emits an entry named requires with body zope.interface in the resulting .egg-info. That's all. It won't hurt, and it will probably help quite a lot to facilitate interoperation of future Python packaging tools. Regards, Zooko [1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] let's standardize dependency declaration without trying to agree on how to implement it

it. Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem http://allmydata.com -- back up all your files for $5/month ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] [pyconuk] just use debian

://stdeb.python-hosting.com Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem http://allmydata.com -- back up all your files for $5/month ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

[Distutils] hooray for distutils/eggs/setuptools/easy_install

that *those* packages need, such as pyOpenSSL and pyutil): http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/browser/_auto_deps.py And here is the list of open tickets about how we would like to improve Tahoe packaging: http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/report/10 Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe

Re: [Distutils] Getting source from __file__ in egg?

On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Phillip J. Eby wrote: (Oh, and while we're suggesting things, zooko, I'd suggest you take a look at the two setuptools bugs in testing status that are assigned to you; they're holding up the 0.6c9 release.) I will be able to look at those next week. Regards

Re: [Distutils] test_suite must be a list ??

their system. You can also use the kludgey work-around that I posted in a previous message, but since you can't do this for all Python packages which you might want to run the unit tests of, I'm not sure that there is a point. Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least

[Distutils] test_suite must be a list ??

to setup() and uploaded an interim version of my software which doesn't run its tests when you tell it ./setup.py test. This is an unsatisfying solution. Does anyone else have any knowledge of this problem? Thanks! Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least-Authority

Re: [Distutils] test_suite must be a list ??

). I will try to contact the authors of elisa. Regards, Zooko --- http://allmydata.org -- Tahoe, the Least-Authority Filesystem http://allmydata.com -- back up all your files for $5/month ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http

[Distutils] [issue33] zipped eggs cause various problems -- perhaps set default setting to unzipped?

New submission from Zooko O'Whielacronx [EMAIL PROTECTED]: per http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2008-April/078505.html installing an egg (with easy_install or ./setup.py install) in zipped form results in stack traces without source code lines attached. I hereby propose that zip_safe

[Distutils] patch: document Framework :: Setuptools Plugin and conventions for revision control plugins

Folks: Part of this patch documents the existence of the Framework :: Setuptools Plugin classifier and says when to use it. Another part documents the naming conventions which the developers of the various revision control plugins agreed to. Regards, Zooko P.S. Note that the git

Re: [Distutils] How to create deb package

it automatically detect which debian packages your package depends on, using the install_requires field from the setup() args: [5]. Thank you for your help in improving Python packaging tools! Regards, Zooko [1] http://stdeb.python-hosting.com [2] http://allmydata.org/trac/zfec/ [3] http://allmydata.org

Re: [Distutils] [ANN] EggFreezer

Python accept fat eggs?). Regards, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

Re: [Distutils] [zc.buildout/egg-cache] .pyc files referencing temporary location?

setuptools issue tracker.) Regards, Zooko [1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2007-December/ 008554.html ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/distutils-sig

[Distutils] the future of setuptools development

it -- will make an effort to maintain setuptools's high level of quality, both by automated testing, by code review, and by manual testing in real-world deployments. Thanks, Your user, Zooko ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org

Re: [Distutils] setuptools tests sprint today

doing so or granting commit access to someone else who can do so), and let's write more tests, and let's set up a buildbot to automatically run all the tests on every checkin. I could contribute a buildmaster and administration thereof. Regards, Zooko

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