Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-11-26 Thread Fred Stluka
. On 11/25/14 7:16 PM, Andrew Pinkham wrote: Hi, Upgrading Django (to 1.7) Part IV: Upgrade Strategies is now available! For the article: afrg.co/updj17/a4/ For all of the material: afrg.co/updj17/ I've also provided a checklist of upgrade steps

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-11-26 Thread Fred Stluka
. On 11/25/14 3:03 PM, Andrew Pinkham wrote: Hi, I have just updated Upgrading Django (to 1.7) Part III: Django 1.7's New Features. The App Registry and System Check Framework sections have been updated to be more accessible. For the article: afrg.co/updj17/a3/ For all of the material: afrg.co

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-11-26 Thread Timothy W. Cook
Excellent resource. Thanks Andrew. On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Andrew Pinkham <m...@andrewsforge.com> wrote: > Hi, > Upgrading Django (to 1.7) Part IV: Upgrade Strategies is now available! > > For the article: > afrg.co/updj17/a4/ > > For all of the material:

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-11-25 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi, Upgrading Django (to 1.7) Part IV: Upgrade Strategies is now available! For the article: afrg.co/updj17/a4/ For all of the material: afrg.co/updj17/ I've also provided a checklist of upgrade steps, as well as a list of all the links used throughout the series: afrg.co/updj17/cl

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-11-25 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi, I have just updated Upgrading Django (to 1.7) Part III: Django 1.7's New Features. The App Registry and System Check Framework sections have been updated to be more accessible. For the article: afrg.co/updj17/a3/ For all of the material: afrg.co/updj17/ Part IV will be available before

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-17 Thread Fred Stluka
Sounds good! Thanks! --Fred Fred Stluka -- mailto:f...@bristle.com -- http://bristle.com/~fred/ Bristle Software, Inc -- http://bristle.com -- Glad to be of service! Open Source: Without walls and fences, we need no

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-15 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi, Thanks to feedback from Fred and a few others, I've started editing Part III to make it more accessible. Part IV was originally set to be published today. Unfortunately, it is not ready to be published. As soon as the new Part III and Part IV are available, I will let you know. Thanks,

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-09 Thread Fred Stluka
Andrew, Yes, that explains a lot. I'd recommend including this explanation in one of the articles of your current series. BTW, one other thing to keep in mind is that we 1.4 users don't know what an apps.py file is, so we don't appreciate not having to create one, since we never did before.

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-09 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi Fred, Thanks again for the positive feedback! I'm sorry I lost you at the App Registry section. I'm afraid I can't recommend an article to help with the topic, either. Given your questions, I can see I missed the mark. Let me give it another go (warning: this is neither technically reviewed

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-09 Thread Fred Stluka
On 10/8/14 11:30 PM, Andrew Pinkham wrote: Hi, Upgrading Django (to 1.7) Part III: Django 1.7's New Features is now available! For the article: afrg.co/updj17/a3/ For all of the material: afrg.co/updj17/ Any feedback appreciated. I hope you find the material helpful. Andrew Andrew

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-08 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi, Upgrading Django (to 1.7) Part III: Django 1.7's New Features is now available! For the article: afrg.co/updj17/a3/ For all of the material: afrg.co/updj17/ Any feedback appreciated. I hope you find the material helpful. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-08 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi Fred, Thanks again for the input! Glad you liked Part II. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-05 Thread Fred Stluka
On 10/1/14 11:36 PM, Andrew Pinkham wrote: Any feedback appreciated. I hope you find the material helpful. Andrew, Excellent 2nd article. Thanks! I especially liked the clear explanation of how South migrations interact badly with initial_data fixtures. OK to use fixtures, but load them

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-04 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Stodge, Part II focuses on migrations, and deals in passing with AppConfig objects via data-migrations. Part III will take a closer look at the app registry, as we will create a custom AppConfig objects for `roundtable`. There is a (very) short section in Part III about import problems caused

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-04 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Carsten, Thank you for reading and for the positive feedback! Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-02 Thread Stodge
I will read this thanks. Does it cover this issue? django.core.exceptions.AppRegistryNotReady: The translation infrastructure > cannot be initialized before the apps registry is ready. Check that you > don't make non-lazy gettext calls at import time. > I don't know if this has been a pain to

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-02 Thread Carsten Fuchs
Hi Andrew, Am 2014-10-02 um 05:36 schrieb Andrew Pinkham: Any feedback appreciated. I hope you find the material helpful. Also from me a hearty thanks for your article series! It's very helpful, and very much appreciated! Best regards, Carsten -- Cafu Engine * www.cafu.de an open-source 3D

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-10-01 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi, Upgrading Django (to 1.7) Part II: Migrations in Django 1.6 and 1.7 is now available! For the article: afrg.co/updj17/a2/ For all of the material: afrg.co/updj17/ Any feedback appreciated. I hope you find the material helpful. Andrew -- You received this message because you

Re: Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-28 Thread bobhaugen
Fred, thanks a jillion for the excellent advice! I obviously missed that bit in the data migration boilerplate. On Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:29:10 AM UTC-5, Fred Stluka wrote: > > Bob, > > Are you referring directly to the models by name in the data > migrations? That could be the

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-27 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi Bob, Thank you! I spend a lot of Part II talking about schema and data migrations in both South and native Django 1.7 migrations. When building data migrations, you should be using historical models. In Django 1.7, you can request these models directly from the app registry built on the fly

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-27 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Benjamin, Thank you! The next two parts of the article will focus on why certain changes were made. Please let me know if you think there were changes that I should have written about. Depending on my schedule and feedback, I would be willing to consider adding to the material if I've missed

Fwd: Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-27 Thread Fred Stluka
Bob, Are you referring directly to the models by name in the data migrations? That could be the problem, because yes, the migration would be using the latest models at the time that the migration is executed, not the models as they stood at the time that the migration was written. There's a

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-27 Thread bobhaugen
The problem we ran into was not with the order of migrations, it was that all of the migrations were running with the latest models.py code. The data migration was trying to move data from one model field to another model field, and the "from" field had been deleted from models.py. This was

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-26 Thread Fred Stluka
Bob, You can control the order in which migrations run. For South, see "depends_on" and "needed_by": - http://south.readthedocs.org/en/latest/dependencies.html For Django 1.7 migrations, see "dependencies": - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/migrations/#dependencies --Fred

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-26 Thread bobhaugen
Andrew, thanks for the article, and the more-to-come. When you get to data migrations, you might want to cover a problem I ran into with them: when I had a data migration in the middle of a sequence of other migrations, and then later wanted to set up a new environment, which meant running all

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-26 Thread Benjamin Scherrey
Great summary - looking forward to the rest. Especially like some of the backgrounder insights also explaining "why" certain things were done. I think this often helps developers understand and use features better than even the otherwise excellent and detailed online docs. Wonder if the Django doc

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-25 Thread Fred Stluka
Sabine, I'm not sure about the new 1.7 Migrations, but with South, restarting your migrations is easy. I'm currently doing it on my project, because we have a long convoluted history of changes before and after we started using South, and have made some mistakes along the way (like editing

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-25 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Fred, Thank you! Good luck with the upgrade! Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-25 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi Sabine, Thank you! It is really nice getting positive feedback. The migrations section (Part II next week!) is a very basic introduction, aimed at people who have never used South or native migrations. One of the key takeaways (hopefully) of the article is the fact that it is easy to

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-25 Thread Fred Stluka
Andrew, Good stuff! Thanks! We're still on 1.4, but planning a move soon to 1.7. Very helpful. --Fred Fred Stluka -- mailto:f...@bristle.com -- http://bristle.com/~fred/ Bristle Software, Inc -- http://bristle.com --

Re: Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-24 Thread Sabine Maennel
Dear Andrew, I read your article and it is great. I am really looking forward to your followups. I was hoping for something like this went I attended Django Con Europe. I struggle with the understanding the migrations the most. Usually in the early phases of development I do not want

Upgrading Django (to 1.7)

2014-09-24 Thread Andrew Pinkham
Hi, I am writing a series of articles based on the presentation I gave at DjangoCon US 2014. I put the first article online earlier today, and figured members of this list might be interested in the material. For all of the material: afrg.co/updj17/ For the article: afrg.co/updj17/a1/