[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sentence not found in Function list page (online help - Italian)

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Valter,

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 8:34 PM Valter Mura  wrote:
> I found an error in this online Help page for Italian:
>
> https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/it/text/scalc/01/04060100.html?
> =CALC=UNIX
>
> Error: "D'oh! You found a bug (text/scalc/01/04060105.xhp#logicaltext not
> found)."

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_help-master/textscalc01/it/?checksum=1c782ce25cc9d817

italian uses old german "logischtext" as variable name for the actual
variable text, so there is no found for the
   
in the other file.

→ Fix: change the variable-ID to logicaltext in the translation.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-commits] help.git: Mac does have a "Control" key

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Stephan, *,

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Stephan Bergmann  wrote:
> On 04/24/2017 09:15 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
>>
>> commit 0205b43e4d518239ff3d6b9bed0cc9317939acd9
>> Author: Stephan Bergmann 
>> Date:   Mon Apr 24 09:11:24 2017 +0200
>>
>>  Mac does have a "Control" key
>>   (even labeled "Ctrl" on my German MacBook keyboard, not "Strg"
>> as the
>>  localization of "Ctrl" on German standard PC-style keyboards), and
>> Writer's
>>  "Format - Clear Direct Formatting" (which this help item is
>> presumably about) is
>>  indeed Ctrl+M (labeled "^M" in the menu) on macOS.
>>   So unconditionally use "Ctrl+M" here for now, notwithstanding
>> potential Mac
>>  localization issues (see that German "Ctrl" vs "Strg" issue).
>
>
> I have no idea how we generally handle this issue in documentation and
> translation: always use generic "Ctrl+M" (whatever that gets translated to);
> use some mark-up to ensure (German etc.) translation will be "Strg+M" for
> non-Mac and "Ctrl+M" for Mac; use "Control+M" on Mac (as had been done prior

Even if Macs might have a ctrl key now, most of the functions/commands
are done with the command key, so it is not a mapping of changing the
label of a key in the docs, it is actaully referring to a different
keycombination.

> to
> 
> "I don’t think Macs have Control keys…"; or...?

that is wrong. Just replacing cmd with ctrl won't make that shortcut
work with ctrl+M

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'l10n' attribute in the help files

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Jan Holesovsky  wrote:
>
> As discussed in the other mails, 'l10n' is another attribute I'd like to
> remove from the help files.

No problem with that, editing with the helpauthoring extension will
also get rid of that attribute already.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

[Christian Lohmaier]

HI Martin, *,

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:
>
> I do not mind this happening if it does not affect the l10n process.

removing those context markers has been done already, and I think
translators didn't notice, so I assume it won't affect the  process at
all..

ciao
Chrisian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:51 PM, khagaroth  wrote:
>> it seems the goal is to move away from .xhp to .xhtml
>>
> I hope you meant HTML 5, because XHTML is a dead end (and good riddance).

What will be in the installation set of course is independent of what
is used as the source-format.

And as kendy already noted, the source format has additional
requirements. (like being translated in a sensible way, i.e. po files
like it is now)

xml can be validated, and converted rather easily. (and of course it
is working already, no need to reinvent the wheel at this point)

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting rid of 'oldref' in the help files

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Jan, *,

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jan Holesovsky  wrote:
> Jan Iversen píše v Pá 16. 12. 2016 v 16:27 +0100:
>
>> > this change is supposed to be transparent for L10n and
>> > Documentation teams, but they should know :-)
>>
>> It does not seem transparent for the few languages that do not use pootle 
>> (sl and sr) please do not forget those.
>
> Thanks for the reminder.  I hope Cloph can do the upgrade for them some
> way that fits them too, though?

I'll provide the script with which I'll do the auto-translation, so
depends on whether they are using same mechanism to update against the
new templates or not whether it will work without modifications (i.e.
either they have obsolete strings in the newly generated po files, or
they have to keep old po files to read the old translation from).

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Possible typo in Pootle LibreOffice Help

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi  Valter, *,

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 7:51 PM Valter Mura 
wrote:

> Hi All
>
> in
>
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/it/libo_help/translate/scalc/guide.po#unit=108811891
>
> it seems to have a typo in the XML tags. Could you please check?
>
> The tag is: 
>

it is pointless to have empty item tags. While valid xml, it is not valid
according to the xmlhelp dtd.

that seems to be wrong and also not closed.
>

It is self-closed, just like   is, but without content the "item" tag
doesn't make sense.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle - Possible error in tag - 2

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi  Valter,

On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:26 PM Valter Mura 
wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Pootle indicates there is a critical error in the indicated string. It
> seems that  is missing
>

yes and no.. In this case having it empty conveys some meaning (no string
when OS is Mac), but self-closing caseinline is should not be used in
xmlhelp. But IIRC there's a quirk when extracting strings that wouls
convert »«  to just »«

In any case, having it empty for mac is wrong, as there is shortcut for
fullsceen on mac as well. (control+command+f)

the translated string with both  and  is
wrong and invalid xml, there is no opening tag for the second one.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Possible help files rename?

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Sophie, *.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Sophie  wrote:
> Hi Kendy, all,
> Le 25/11/2015 11:09, Jan Holesovsky a écrit :
>>
>> #. ZxQeC
>> #: main.xhp
>> msgctxt ""
>> "main.xhp\n"
>> […changed to…]
>> #. ZxQeC
>> #: -Welcome-to-the-officename-Calc-Help.xhp
>> msgctxt ""
>> "-Welcome-to-the-officename-Calc-Help.xhp\n"
>>
>> Sorry for not being precise in my question previously, but first I
>> needed to understand how exactly the .xhp's map to the .po files :-)
>>
>> Does this work / is this change possible without much hassle?
> this result on changing the msgctxt, so all the files will be changed.

But this is a change that can be easily scripted, have a map oldname →
newname and then  run a script over the files replacing the filename.
Much easier to do than the help-ID changes in the past, since you
don't need to manually account for "shifts" in the changes.

> We should also check with Dwayne if it's not used in some
> indexation/search processes on Pootle.

indexes can be recreated, so no hurdle in itself..

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help Authoring Extension

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Alex, *,

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Le 24/07/2015 23:06, Jan Holesovsky a écrit :
 [...]
   https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Help


 When I go to that page, there is a link to the extension:

 https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/helpauthoring/

Not true - it links to http://... (not https - that is your browser's
plugin at work)

 which leads to an error message in Firefox that the page can not be loaded.

That domain is not setup for https - you http to access it.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Printed copies of LibreOffice 3.4 Getting Started

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just received a printed copy of the LibreOffice 3.4 Getting Started
 book from Lulu.com. Wow, the cover looks good on the real book! :-D
 http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/libreoffice-34-getting-started/12820113

 Interior's not bad, either. For the printed copies, I reduced the page
 size to 6x9, which seems to work well although the text font is almost
 too small and the interior (binding edge) margin is a bit too narrow.

A sans-serif font is used for the body text. Is that intentional?

I find serif fonts much easier to read on paper. (I love the look of
Gentium - unfortunately it doesn't look as well on screen as it does
on paper..)

ciao
Christian
PS: only subscribed to the marketing list

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi *,

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Kohei Yoshida kyosh...@novell.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:45 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote:

 http://help.libreoffice.org is now up and running.

 Can someone post the IP address of that site?

help.libreoffice.org.   86365   IN  A   195.135.221.70

ciao
Christian

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