Re: [Dovecot] OT list modification Re: nfs director
I am with Dave on this one. Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: On 8/27/10 11:15 PM, Noel Butler wrote: I dont think we are living in the 19th century now, I think its time for the html to txt conversion to be scrapped, its screwed up the paragraph formatting ( and few other things in recent times I've seen) more than once, making it look like an a5 size book page. how about it? Oh right, the 20th century is the century of protocol abuse for people who think everything on the network should be a web page, and everything on the net should be accessed with a web browser. If this change is made, I for one will ditch this list and just rely on searching the archives. I get enough HTML garbage from clueless morons all day long, I don't need more of it from a supposedly clueful group. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL -- Richard Sent from my Dell Streak with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
[Dovecot] OT list modification Re: nfs director
I dont think we are living in the 19th century now, I think its time for the html to txt conversion to be scrapped, its screwed up the paragraph formatting ( and few other things in recent times I've seen) more than once, making it look like an a5 size book page. how about it? On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 13:11 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 04:04 -0700, Brandon Davidson wrote: To each their own. If your setup works without it, then fine, don't use it... but I don't see why you feel the need to disparage it either. It's I'll some it up put well by someone who mailed me offlist... mx-in-1 gets the connection, postfix looks up user in mysql, mysql says hey i know him posfix says to sender send away, then, postfix applies its filters/clamav/spamassassin,(so by now all the REAL hard work has been done) so now postfix says OK dovecot-lda here it is so you can deliver to the NFS mounted dir, but WAIT says dovecot-lda, my director says no i'm not the driveway you want, pop over and drive in using to mx-in-2, so that server then gets it and whatever else it wants to do with it now before giving it off to hte same NFS server that mx-in-1 had.. now., this might not be so funny when you have two boxes, but if you have many, or 20 or so like the OP... *shakes head* All they are doing FFS is passing it along. regardless of if mx-in-2 does anything else with it, it seems kinda strange and very backward routing mail to another server, just to deliver on yet another device, double handling comes to mind, even if it doesnt rescan msg and go through all the filters again, its still an unnecessary step to send it to another box, just to be stored on, yet another... I'd like someone to sanely justify that to me. hardly bloat; those of us with larger installations do find it useful. IIRC I dont know how large your operation is, but I suspect my 118K mailbox's and yours together still dont match the OP's 400K And anything that adds to requirements of a server that is not needed in other aspects, is bloat, maybe some setups this is fine, I can not justify modifying mine to include extra points of failure when it all works fine. If it becomes a problem all I need to do is modify all MTA postfix main.cf's to not use dovecot as virtual delivery, thats commenting out one single line, thats it, (tested already), the only difference is postfix is still in dark ages and uses Maildir, not Maildir++, but that is hardly a problem :) ah well, its the weekend, so i'm out of this madness now for a few days.
Re: [Dovecot] OT list modification Re: nfs director
On 8/27/10 11:15 PM, Noel Butler wrote: I dont think we are living in the 19th century now, I think its time for the html to txt conversion to be scrapped, its screwed up the paragraph formatting ( and few other things in recent times I've seen) more than once, making it look like an a5 size book page. how about it? Oh right, the 20th century is the century of protocol abuse for people who think everything on the network should be a web page, and everything on the net should be accessed with a web browser. If this change is made, I for one will ditch this list and just rely on searching the archives. I get enough HTML garbage from clueless morons all day long, I don't need more of it from a supposedly clueful group. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL
Re: [Dovecot] OT list modification Re: nfs director
Dave McGuire put forth on 8/27/2010 10:43 PM: If this change is made, I for one will ditch this list and just rely on searching the archives. I get enough HTML garbage from clueless morons all day long, I don't need more of it from a supposedly clueful group. I use 'mailnews.display.prefer_plaintext;true' and I never see HTML formatted emails. Once this feature started working reliably (years ago) in Thunderbird, I stopped posting complaints such as yours to the lists I participate in. At one point I was a text-only zealot like you. MUA technology solved the problem for me. You might try it. :) There will be no HTML everywhere conversion in the future. The internet and the web are both built upon RFCs. There is even an RFC defining the format of RFCs. They are to be plain text only, formatted with exactly x columns and rows per page, fixed 10 point type, courier--ASCII. If the HTML zealots ever attempt an overthrow of the net, the Sun will go supernova and destroy the Earth, and there will be no one left to worry about it. So feel safe in knowing that text only will survive forever in many corners of the web, and the world. :) -- Stan
