[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-19 Thread dh2ybe
Most of blocked Geman Callsigngs are active OM´s Why they are blocked ? And when there are unblocked ? There is a lot of trouble because this situation. Next Question what is about the over 2000 woldwide blocked callsigns ? select target_cs, del_flg, mod_date from sync_mng where del_flg = '1'

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ? Change the subject line!

2009-08-19 Thread Jack
What would really be nice is if someone would change the subject line! At 08:46 AM 8/19/2009, dh2ybe wrote: Most of blocked Geman Callsigngs are active OM´s Why they are blocked ? And when there are unblocked ? There is a lot of trouble because this situation. Next Question what is about the

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Scherp
*But all is OK now,with DL5LW.He is back on Dstar.All fixed,No problems anymore * **

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Scherp
*DM5LW sorry,write Error * On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Peter Scherp ai4ue.hamra...@gmail.comwrote: *But all is OK now,with DL5LW.He is back on Dstar.All fixed,No problems anymore * **

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-18 Thread john_ke5c
Interesting. Those folks there were registered on XTRUST below (yesterday) are now registered on DB0WZB. DTERM, whatever that is, is still registered on XTRUST1. Someone in D-land seems to be manipulating the database... 73 -- John --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, john_ke5c k...@...

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-18 Thread dg1ht
Germany blacklisted Here is the procedure for the SQL query blocked Germans call sign in the Gateway database. su – postgres psql \c dstar_global select target_cs, del_flg, mod_date from sync_mng where del_flg = '1' and target_cs like 'D%' order by target_cs; DN1VB DL5NC DD4TS DJ4IM

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-18 Thread john_ke5c
Here is the procedure for the SQL query blocked Germans call sign in the Gateway database. su – postgres psql \c dstar_global select target_cs, del_flg, mod_date from sync_mng where del_flg = '1' and target_cs like 'D%' order by target_cs; No, setting the del_flg means ignore that

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-17 Thread Peter Loveall
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bosshard bossh...@... wrote: I tested with AI4EU - UR=WA6YTD. K5CTX B linked to 1C. Other folks on 1C heard me just fine - not on the same repeater as WA6YTD - maybe a work in progress ? Pete reports many German users suddenly black listed ?

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-17 Thread Adrian
Steve Bosshard bossh...@... wrote: I tested with AI4EU - UR=WA6YTD. K5CTX B linked to 1C. Other folks on 1C heard me just fine - not on the same repeater as WA6YTD - maybe a work in progress A bit different for you there Steve, as even though you are routing, your packets are

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-17 Thread Steve Bosshard
SRI Pete - Was AI4EU Pete reporting the DE stations blacklisted. 73, steve --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Peter Loveall p...@... wrote: --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bosshard bosshard@ wrote: I tested with AI4EU - Which Pete are you talking about. This Pete never

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-17 Thread Peter Scherp
*I,m AI4UE Peter from Burlington.* *yes my Buddy from Germany DM5LW is blacklisted.* *So far I know,hw did nothing wrong!* *He is a 70+ year old Ham,with very good maneers.* *But there is 160 more hams from Germany blacklisted also.* *Some of them,never was on Dstar!* *All off them ask Why?* On

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-17 Thread Woodrick, Ed
: Monday, August 17, 2009 12:19 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ? I,m AI4UE Peter from Burlington. yes my Buddy from Germany DM5LW is blacklisted. So far I know,hw did nothing wrong! He is a 70+ year old Ham,with very good maneers

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-17 Thread john_ke5c
*I,m AI4UE Peter from Burlington.* *yes my Buddy from Germany DM5LW is blacklisted.* *So far I know,hw did nothing wrong!* *He is a 70+ year old Ham,with very good maneers.* *But there is 160 more hams from Germany blacklisted also.* *Some of them,never was on Dstar!* *All off them ask

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-17 Thread Nate Duehr
Interesting. Have you tested that John? I'm chicken to. -- Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:04 +, john_ke5c k...@hot.rr.com wrote: *I,m AI4UE Peter from Burlington.* *yes my Buddy from Germany DM5LW is blacklisted. * *So far I know,hw did nothing wrong!* *He is

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-16 Thread Steve Bosshard
I tested with AI4EU - UR=WA6YTD. K5CTX B linked to 1C. Other folks on 1C heard me just fine - not on the same repeater as WA6YTD - maybe a work in progress ? Pete reports many German users suddenly black listed ? Anyone know what is going on ? de nu5d --- In

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-12 Thread Steve Bosshard
When linked to a reflector, and I transmit UR=CQCQCQ, the response back from the local repeater is RPT ?, indicating that I did not reach the intended Gateway. Since there is no intended gateway (UR=CQCQCQ) this response is normal and expected. While still linked to a reflector, and I set

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-11 Thread john_ke5c
There are basically three options There are other options but the one I like the most is that Robin could add local gateway dplus configuration options to determine how slash routed and callsign routed streams, both incoming and outgoing from RF and from links, are handled, i.e., forwarded or

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-11 Thread damienjorgensen
Would that make Robin win? You could argue that if you allowed every repeater to act differently, becuase the gateway is configured differently from one twn to the next it would fragement the userbase. Im not saying its going to, but my point is Robin cant win, as someone will find fault with

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-11 Thread k7ve
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, john_ke5c k...@... wrote: For all of those who don't want the DPLUS software to route call sign routed packets into the network, there's just as many of us who think that it is working they way it should. So no matter what Robin does, a number of

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-11 Thread John Hays
I don't believe this is going to get better or be resolved until a serious open source project, with good architecture and management, takes hold. There are many of us who would work on such a project, but it seems all of the legitimate developers get spooked off of publishing the

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-11 Thread Nate Duehr
You could argue that if you allowed every repeater to act differently, becuase the gateway is configured differently from one twn to the next it would fragement the userbase. They already DO act differently, per the settings in the configur ation file for whether users can link/unlink. There has

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-10 Thread Steve Bosshard
Right now, driving down the road I don't know if our local repeater is linked unless I send UR=K5CTX^^I and the repeater play back Not Currently Linked. I cannot at all tell if the user at the far end is on a linked repeater or not. I am not even sure what repeater that person last used.

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-10 Thread Andrew Hart
Fran; If you could tell me how to make it work with a couple of buttons on my IC-2200 I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks Andy

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-10 Thread Fran Miele
Andy, Sorry, I don't know anything about the 2200. Fran _ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Hart Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:09 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-09 Thread iain.philipps
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com mailto:dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com , Fran f...@... wrote: So what! They can't push a couple of buttons IF they want to talk back!!! It's not a talk back issue, it's a resource issue. If a user has selected an explicit callsign routing then I would beg

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-09 Thread iain.philipps
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Fran f...@... wrote: Our repeater is always linked to a reflector and we want people to be able to call route to us, so it is NOT a good solution. Seems to be a misunderstanding somewhere along the way. The proposal is for how -=OUTBOUND=- traffic

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-09 Thread Tony Langdon
At 12:59 PM 8/10/2009, you wrote: Seems to be a misunderstanding somewhere along the way. The proposal is for how -=OUTBOUND=- traffic should be handled / routed, not inbound. Maybe it's me that misunderstood? No, sounds like you got it right Iain. I understood Nate's idea the same way as you

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-08 Thread Steve Bosshard
This is a BIG surprise for me. Sure enough, when I call sign routed to W1FJM this morning I was heard on AA1HD and W1IXU, both linked to 10C according to W1FJM and KB1QGL, and myself on K5CTX B not linked. So, thanks to Dplus, my calls to W1FJM went places I did not intend them to go. Also

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-08 Thread john_ke5c
Just to be clear, routed calls are not Icom routed calls, they are native to the D-STAR protocol. The Icom gateway implements them. DPLUS linking is a non-standard add-on, widely deployed and accepted by the users, but not native to the protocol. DE K7VE More later, but just to be

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-08 Thread Adrian
k7ve wrote: Just to be clear, routed calls are not Icom routed calls, they are native to the D-STAR protocol. Back on air, on D-Star, I always state ¨VK4TUX icom routing¨ during a callsign routed call as this lets the recipient know to one touch or set cs ur to get back to me. I

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 04:58 AM 8/9/2009, Adrian wrote: Back on air, on D-Star, I always state ¨VK4TUX icom routing¨ during a callsign routed call I always announce how I've placed the call if I'm not simply joining an existing QSO. Typically, I would announce something like: Routing from VK3RWN port B. This

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-07 Thread ki4umx
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) bossh...@... wrote: Hi Fran, Trouble is other linked gateways hear only one side of the conversation - not a pleasant thing. Many stations do not use reflectors or linking. steve Hi Steve, Over the last year, I have used

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-07 Thread Steve Bosshard
Hi Hank, What if their Gateways do not have linking capabilities as in Japan ? The JA station would have UR=NU5D, RPT1=JP4YDU A and RPT2=JP4YDU G . I reply with UR=JA4NYY, RPT1=K5CTX B and RPT2=K5CTX G . 73 When K5CTX B is linked, folks on the reflector will hear my transmission, but

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-07 Thread vk4tux
If the repeater gateway could discern whether the call arriving at a gateway originated via reflector or via source route, and depending on the source, inhibit sending to a reflector for a few minutes it would really simplify operations and better mix reflector calls and source routed

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-07 Thread ki4umx
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Steve Bosshard bossh...@... wrote: Hi Hank, What if their Gateways do not have linking capabilities as in Japan ? The JA station would have UR=NU5D, RPT1=JP4YDU A and RPT2=JP4YDU G . I reply with UR=JA4NYY, RPT1=K5CTX B and RPT2=K5CTX G . 73

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-07 Thread Steve Bosshard
Hi Hank, Its not limited to JA. I believe anyone using a gateway not linked to a reflector making a source routed call to either a user or a gateway repeater will be heard only by the one gateway repeater. The station replying using one touch, on a linked gateway repeater will be routed to

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-07 Thread Adrian
Steve Bosshard wrote: Hi Hank, Its not limited to JA. I believe anyone using a gateway # not linked to a reflector making a source routed call to either a user or a gateway repeater will be heard only by the one gateway repeater. The icom routed incoming call (from #) will pass

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Wouldn't It Be Nice ?

2009-08-07 Thread k7ve
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Adrian vk4...@... wrote: The icom routed incoming call (from #) will pass to a linked reflector or gateway to the listeners system. Just to be clear, routed calls are not Icom routed calls, they are native to the D-STAR protocol. The Icom gateway