See here: www.ddos.com
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His lies are so obvious! His www.goldnow.st page has only about 50 hits
daily, check on www.alexa.com !
Perhaps you would like to tell us how in God's name is that relevant to the
traffic of a site?! Or perhaps you should first understand how a 'hit' of a
web page is and can be counted... or,
I don't know if this would work, but...
When a server is under DDOS attack it should redirecting each access request
to a page designed to authenticate a human user. This page would have a
basic layout (with a very small size):
-
Site URL
The
Sidd, there is no need to increase the length of the passwords. I understand
that passwords are good for those people who print their PIKs and may loose
them; it's a simple security backup system. For such a case, passwords need
to be short to be easily remembered. Also, people who log-in from a
Right, Patrick. For a moment I forgot that only a few elements from the PIK
are used in a log-in. A separate, unique, private log-in ID is required.
Besides, as Ian Green points out, locking out an account for repeated
invalid login attempts can have some very bad unintended consequences:
I
Danny,
The accounts can only be indentified by the 'password', since I have to
enter only 4 characters from the PIK, and there must be other accounts
with
the same characters in the same places here and there.
We have to assume that their system checks to make it impossible that two
Sidd,
For those who only use one computer and who have a fixed IP address,
the IP security is also available (George?)
I prefer to keep my options open. You never know what can happen. Besides,
I'm on dial-up for the moment and I can't be sure if the next time the IP
will be even in the same
Only in that case, the security of Pecunix will be above the others, not
before that. Most people don't use IP lock or PGP log-in, they use
passwords - it's easier.
I was, of course, referring to the security of the log-in process. The rest
is better, considering the PGP integration.
George
Patrick,
it is far more secure to have the PIK printed and carried in your
wallet
True, unless someone steals your wallet, or you loose it. ...
That's not a problem. The guy who gets your wallet still cannot log in
because he doesn't have your secret Login ID.
That would be true if
Drew,
and password combintaions...
That is exactly my problem: the password. Is too short.
PGP encryption at login with Pecunix?
I'll look into that...
Joke:
A hot babe is a secretary at a firm. Her boss thinks to something to
Right! It would be nice for the system to also require the user ID (email
address), and if there are too many failed log-ins (at least 10), the
account could be locked for a day (or so).
Damn, I just realized that's not possible because any idiot could lock any
account by simply trying to
Sidd,
This is a possibility, but of course that would be easy for a screen
scraper to steal... I will look into this more.
No need, I have a new idea (that works with images). Prepare to...
bedazzled ;) I will make this like a whitepaper.
If any of you FBI, NSA, CIA guys read this list, get
check out the Kuhn / Anderson paper - google search should locate
it easily.
Monitor buyers should not assume that so-called low-radiation monitors,
or even LCD screens, provide any Tempest protection; we found that some
modern TFT-LCD laptop displays give clearer reception than many
Bedazzled Log-in Method Whitepaper
Author: George Hara
(http://www.filematrix.xnet.ro/ideas/whitepapers/login.htm)
Introduction
Using strings of characters as passwords has always been a security issue
because they are hard to remember and can be stolen by key-loggers or
Gordon,
No that is not the case. The tempest system that I am aware of can take
the
signal and reproduce the entire active computer onto a slave computer.
Once
in, the remote operator is basically sitting in front of your computer
just
like you are and is able to watch on the screen what you
Patrick,
But the way Pecunix displays the PIKs makes it difficult if not
impossible to copy and paste them. So maybe Pecunix could also display
each PIK in pure text in a form somewhat like George suggests:
1-a 2-4 3-T 4-u 5-X 6-b 7-Q 8-N 9-e 10-j 11-Y 12-u 13-A 14-m 15-9 16-h
Absolutely!
James,
Me either. Email is an insecure medium,
I said a few weeks ago something about a service to check PGP signatures and
at that time I also said about emails not having clickable URLs. If the
currency operator informs the users about never including clickable URLs in
the emails they send,
Sidd,
I just created a Pecunix account. The system is great, it has a lot of
features, and I was intrigued by the way the Turing number became
unnecessary. The difficult part is the login. No way for a beginner to
complete the registration and log-in process.
Here are my suggestions:
1.
Create
Option to set an automatic 'payment delay' on all payments attempted from
an account.
Another way to deal with large, secure payments is for the system to force
users to confirm payments by email. For example, when a large payment is
pending, the system sends a notification by email and perform
www.gold-cart.com
So, yet another site from Sidd...
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JPM,
(Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if you think the metric system is a good
idea.)
Even ANZ use the metric system, where one can simply move the decimal
separator to transform units into subunits.
There is another method to group the digits in a number, using ' as
separator, as in
Jim,
You don't like Danny's e-land idea because of the historical
example of John Law.
You oversimplify. I dislike the e-land idea because land
is not fungible. Location determines its value. I
dislike it because there are known high storage costs in
most jurisdictions in the form of
Jim,
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Just pointing a few things:
To Danny:
Scammers don't like criticism. I think you are very
likely a scammer.
To Robert:
No doubt you would have ridden a tank in the general's rank
while the blitzkrieg raged and the fighting stank, to quote
the
Joel, are sure about your e-gold account being 808?! I think you put an
extra 0, or maybe E-gold gives custom account numbers?!
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Ragnar,
Does anyone know of a good software that tracks click-throughs
or does other referral tracking, like gauging the effectiveness
of banner advertising?
I don't remember were I saw software for this kind of bussiness, but I do
know about two sites that offer such services. This way you
James,
I see you answered to an email from David, which I didn't receive?! Maybe it
was private...
The only potential problem I can foresee
would be aiding the creation of a horrible new form of spam
that's internal to the payment system to go along with all the
external spam we see via
I know that at some point there was a discussion about about the DGC systems
to have rebilling just like credit / debit cards. Now I have an idea for
those who are interested.
Automatic rebilling is impossible, but there is still the possiblity for
merchants to make *payment requests*. A payment
The American Heritage Dictionary defines inflation as:
2. A persistent increase in the level of consumer prices *or* a persistent
decline in the purchasing power of money, *caused* by an increase in
available currency *and* credit beyond the proportion of available goods and
services.
But the
Danny,
For example, why not an e-currency backed by real estate?
It could be better than gold.
A piece of land is in the same category. An acre of land today will still
be
the same acre of land in ??? years, ...
But land does grow stuff, and that's where it beats gold.
Trouble is, that
Patrick,
Sounds kind of like a stock, too. As I told George once, I don't
consider the issuance of stock to be a good example of how money should
work. However, I also said that none of these funky shenanigans
bothers me in the least if it's voluntary. So bring on the funky
shenanigans.
Same email as yesterday, but different destination site...
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from localhost by xsams2 with LMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon,
20 Oct 2003 19:33:10 +0300
Received: from mta1.xnet.ro (mta1.xnet.ro [217.10.192.225])
by xsams2.xnet.ro (Switch-2.2.8/Switch-2.2.6)
I just received this (I also received it at another address wihich is no
longer public, just for the past few days):
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Dear e-gold account owner!
At 10.19.2003 our company has lost all
accounts in the system during the database
crash. You must login into
The EcMA will be happy to list with each member their public pgp key,
digital signature, both or something else you tech guys think works to
identify the individual. You tell me what is most effective and I'll
include it no charge, we've got plenty of server space I'll provide it for
free.
Robert,
Now that is a problem. I was always wondering how long it would take until
crooks started to use the names of repectable people and the nasty under
their name just to damage their reputation.
Why don't you guys use the PGP standard (www.bouncycastle.org) to sign your
official emails?
Gordon,
I think this guy may be the same one that was stealing the v2gold content
and posting keyloggers to the site. Today he tried to transfer our main
domain into 3 accounts of well known people, threatened my life a few
times
and tried to extort $1000 all while telling me to go @##^@ my
James, give us some slack. There is a lot of interest on the *destination*
of money...
Jim,
shoot cubans if they would try to invade USA
I would not shoot all Cubans who seek to enter the USA
Once more your answer was beyond my question. I said if they would try to
invade!
why you
Dear Jim,
As Beardsley Ruml pointed out in the 1940s, with the ability to
issue currency, the government has no need to tax. It can print
as much money as it will ever need. Therefore, in his view, the
function of taxes such as the income tax and the inheritance tax,
is not to fund the
tax for people (not companies) is unique (no progressive taxation levels)
and around 14%, and they are doing well since it was introduced.
Russia's income tax on wages is a flat rate of 13%. Unique? No, the
Ukarine
now has copied the policy.
David, as you can see in parenthesis, after
Robert,
Imagine the savings on paper work, enforcement, etc.
This is probably the most important reason why Russia (and other countries)
use such a simple taxation system.
To avoid the multiple taxation issue, companies would be allowed to NOT add
the expenses to the total income. So, no VAT
David,
Japan has, in the last 15 years, clocked up an outstanding public debt of
about 150% of a year's GDP, which is over twice that of the USA. And it made
things worse, not better! New Zealand has been running a large surplus of
about 3-4% GDP for the last few years but the economy keeps
David,
Interest is a distribution of income, not a source of income.
Investments are not a source of income either
Okay, I understand that. Taxing these would mean multiple taxation. Of
course, (I already said) the taxable income must not included income that
was already taxed.
Property is
Robert,
Hello Helen,
I think this was from another email ;)
What happens if I plant trees on my land? You know, I buy the land, plant
trees to start a saw mill in a decade or two. hence I will derive an
income in future, but not till then. If the government confiscates my land
because of
Robert, the very title of this topic says The Myth, so I have to assume
there is enough gold in the world to allow everybody to exchange their paper
for gold (as long as the governments didn't print more than its worth).
Patrick, now I understand why you want to pay your taxes in gold: you want
But in the United States, the thugs outlawed redeeming currency for gold.
Patrick, why is this redeeming word so important? Can't you just say you
*exchange* paper money for gold on the free market? Or maybe you're saying
it is illegal (now) for people to own gold in USA (so, they can't exchange
The US populace pays $62 billion of interest on credit card debts per
year!
Imagine, if people were not able to use credit for consumables.
Robert, does anybody force these people not to use debit cards? The same
goes for the credit cards you said will be used in Malaysia.
Regards,
George
Robert,
I can't help but wonder in which protected shell you grew up and who
instilled this sense of entitlement into you?
Exactly because I didn't grew in a protected shell, I know what the risks
are; I know that I have to pay more than the price of the house, unless I
come up with all the
Robert, let's say I am a guy, 20 years old, fresh out of college. I have no
rich parents, and no inherited fortune. I want to have a house (to build or
buy it). What do I do in a country where banks can't lend me money? From
where do I get the money to buy my house? I see no such source.
So, I
No, go to the local home purchaser union, join up and save 10% of the
value of the house into an account.
So, first I must have 10% of the house's value. I don't, but say I get them.
No... actually the first problem is the existence of the union, but we
consider it there.
Then pick the house
Dear Hannibal,
Digging gold out of the earth is about as basic a method of generating
wealth as agriculture
It certainly does generates wealth, but it doesn't generate value as
agriculture does; well, at least I see it like that. Besides, can anyone
tell me the difference between those who
Dear Patrick,
Why stop at 10%? Crank it up to 20%
He is not creating any value...
Other people are creating the value.
Really?! Why should they create value if you don't. You tell Danny not to
stop at 10% inflation, yet you want *other* people to create value. And you
talk about slavery
Dear Jim,
The supply of gold grows. What do you think gold mining companies are
doing?
I agree, but there is one catch: the gold does not belong to the people. So,
the welth of those who mine the gold and of those who own the land increases
with 2% per year, not of a country.
Best regards,
I think you need to check your facts. As Greenspan said All countries
that use non-gold backed fiat money inflate their currencies. Period.
Steve, I was referring to over-inflating the currency - printing money
without having economy to back it up with.
Forrest, I didn't get your
Dear Jim,
Are you opposed to gold because it hasn't been nationalized by the
so-called dictatorship of the proletariat?
Maybe you have not read what Patrick said about gold belonging to *people*,
not to the country. In that sense I told you that the mined gold doesn't
belong to the people.
Dear Patrick,
I do not know what it means to have an economy and to value it at 1
ton of gold
Then how can you ask to have gold as a currency, since you don't know its
value?
Okay, truly, it doesn't matter what the value of an economy means, but what
matters is that currency is *liquidity*.
Dear Patrick,
The supply of gold remains constant; the supply of goods increases. Value
of gold relative to goods increases.
So, you're the big chief of a country. I am the big chief of another. We
have economies that we equally value to 1 ton of gold (which we have in our
vaults).
The thing
www.betonmarkets.com has a XAD unit for decigrams of gold.
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Really weird project! I guess when I'll want to redeem some money, I'll ask
for some vodka!
Oh, yes... really stable currency too! ...Why do I see double the amount I
redeemed?! ;)
Regards,
George Hara
www.filematrix.xnet.ro
Patrick, I couldn't find that either. Maybe I remember something wrong?!
Robert could say that, if he remembers. However, this is how they see
backing the economy with gold:
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 07:04:09 -0400
Author: Robert S.Z. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gold Dinar just Months Away
Dear Jim
This idea that anyone can print money without consequences is inflationist
nonsense.
True, but I hope you know I didn't say that. On the contrary, I said it
does, but the USA is about the only kid on the block who can get away with
it because the USD circulates in the entire world.
I wanted to say that the US Fed / government can print as much money they
want. As long as those money are sent outside US and don't come back, the
Fed has nothing to worry about. But most countries can't do that, because
their currencies are not used outside their borders, so they can't print
Dear Patrick,
Many of you constantly refer to USA and Fed as they are universal standards.
Please understand that USA is not the only country in the world, yet almost
every country functions on the same principals, though without the same
(military) power. So, the results are the same though
Nothing much would happen because:
1. Paper money will always exist because they are needed as a representation
of a country's economic value. Just as stock goes up or down according to
the trust of people in a company, so is paper money going up or down
according to the interests of investors
David,
You forget one thing in your arguments: paper money can be printed, gold CAN
NOT! Economic value can not be pegged to gold!
And even it were possible to make it from led, the day gold will be created
on industrial scale in particle accelerators, is the day gold ends its life
as currency.
Dear Patrick,
As Graham said, it will only be a fraction of a fraction of a percentage of
the worlds economies! Gold simply can't back the world's economy! There
isn't enough! Paper money can exactly because it can be printed (and
destroyed)!
Paper money doesn't need gold, and that is because
Dear Jim, thank you for the links!
I wonder if the congress checked if the rest of the money are still in the
accounts of Red Cross?!
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Dear Khurram,
By the way Danny, if you have and images of the old e-gold turing
numbers saved, I'll be happy to wrap it with a php script so it can run
through the web. You would have to make it a command line program
instead, that takes the Image url in as an argument and simply prints
out
Craig, now I understand! I thought they were just trying to use up the
system's resources, not actually try to get into accounts.
Of course, any cracker could try a single password for all accounts, but I
don't think anyone with a lot of egold in his account has a simple password,
so this method
I didn't know this! Does anyone have more information? Some links to what
they did? I want to spread the word ;)
Dear Patrick,
Make sure you only donate to the official government sanctioned
9/11 charity run by the Red Cross. Oh but wait -- that turned
out to be a scam too.
Regards,
Danny,
It seems to me that the first thing one does to protect a system from
automated attacks is to forbid access attempts to the same account more
than once every x (say 10) seconds.
This means that even with constant attempt to crack the password and the
Turing number, the cracker can't do
Craig,
But those people can consume E-gold's resources with or without the Turing
number, just by trying a connection. I mean, the system must check for both
the Turing number and password, so, even if the Turing is cracked, the
system still has to check a random password and thus consume
The White House site is www.whitehouse.GOV
The other site seems to be an irony toward the US government.
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Following the logic behind gold-backed proof, I have to ask: how do we know
the Earth is round?
Has any of you been to space, around the Earth?
Pictures you say?! Faked!
Objects show more of their base part when closing to the viewer?! Optical
illusion!
Does anybody have concrete proof that
The unregistered version of the program now works without limitation, except
for the newly integrated tension indicator (the fractal indicator).
So, if anyone needs to view detailed intraday forex markets, you can use the
program freely.
If you want the tension indicator
Hi guys!
I have released my intraday forex analyzer, Fora 1.1. It works with up to 40
days of intraday data, with 10 seconds ticks. The program is fast on modern
computers, but may be slow in rendering charts, on old computers.
The program is free to use but has a limitation in the unregistered
Robert, in the next months I want to move my site to a TLD, so I will get
everything in one package. I am aware of the big hosting companies, but I
will prefer to use someone who accepts egold, mainly because of the offshore
hosting.
P.S. I have looked at all hosting services advertised on the
Dear Ian
Just be aware that if you come up with a system that works, the odds will
change.
That's why I like more the systems that are not based on betting. But those
systems (OANDA) don't accept egold, which is much easier to use than paper
money.
The program will not contain my forecasting
Danny, thank you for that link!
I think I'll try that program, but I don't really need it because my ISP
gives me web mail, so I can delete the garbage from the server.
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Dear Jim
The 100% back by gold is in the banners of E-gold. It is their welcome
message.
Redemption should mean
I think that should says it all! In the case of E-gold redemption =
exchange because the value is the same in both cases (of course, I have no
proof that the gold really covers 100%
Dear Jim
Yes, it is. E-gold is gold itself, circulated electronically. There is
actual, real gold in vaults in London, Zurich, and Dubai. It is actually
possible to redeem e-gold for gold. I've done it myself.
The first thing E-gold says on their site is that egold is 100% *backed* by
gold.
Joseph Firmino wrote
Funny how things pop up just when you need them.
That is so right!
It's GOLD for crying out loud.
Er... it's not actually gold. It's value back by gold, numbers in a computer
anchored to gold's value. It's *virtual* gold!
Why do I say this? The laws of some countries
Dear Yatry,
When I first saw BOM (www.betonmarkets.com), I thought money can be made
only by luck. Then I tried to make a program to help me make educated bets
for long terms (bear, bull). It changed a few times but in the end it
failed. However, it helped me see some interesting intraday
That's not a UFO! Here's a UFO: www.moller.com ;)
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Those who named the company 3M are idiots because the name is too short to
be considered as a *logical* association with other then generic things.
3M could the short for 3 Millions, 3 Mega, 3 Meters, 3 Microns, 3
Muffs (sort of square(Dumb and Dumber)), whatever. Simply tell you client
to specify
ok fine. So you would rather pay lower fees to have your servers in the
USA guaranteeing your customers are at the mercy of the Government?
Certainly! There is only so much interference from the US government, as
long as everybody plays by the rules. When we do get an inquiry, as
However,
This list system is totally whacked! Again, I didn't receive the digest (for
Tuesday), so I'll change to receive each message. I tried the online list
and the messages are mixed, both Previous and Next buttons display newer and
older messages, mixed. I also see some messages that I didn't get in
Steve, thanks for the information, but that method is not reliable. I was
thinking to something hosted on reliable servers, that can be paid for a
year or two and make backups when possible, and that could be once a year.
Maybe I simply can't access the files! Then what, after two weeks they
What do you mean by pay their taxes? What taxes are they paying?
Gordon, I meant *you* pay more for having your servers in Sealand, than you
would pay having the servers in Panama; and I said *if* their fees are
higher. So, having your servers in Sealand is like paying the same thing as
in
No one wants to be taxed. Screw taxes.
Gordon, who pays for schools, hospitals, research, roads, ...? But, of
course, Sealand doesn't need all these. But, if Havenco has higher fees
than, say, Panama's data-centers, you pay their taxes anyway.
If it is anything like New Zealand then I would
I see things like this:
1. e-gold-casino is a trade-mark infringement because it confuses visitors
in the way they are likely to think e-gold-casino is run by E-gold.
2. bet-with-egold is not an infringement because it tells visitors they
can *use* egold to bet with. This is like I would put a
name, but only for a
short time, 2 or 3 web pages with a program that was not related to the
domain name itself. The rest of the time is under construction... for ages.
Now, if anyone would make a search with filematrix on Google, Altavista,
Lycos, AllTheWeb, would see that the domain name is nowhere
Khurram wrote:
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What makes gold have objective value?
Because humans have a fondness for it? That sounds very subjective to me.
Because its pretty? Subjective again
Because its the traditional store of value? In another thousand years,
will the dollar become
I don't understand why the phone company would decrypt my data, but I
suppose I communicate with them through cell phone protocols, and they
forward my connection to the Internet, so they have complete access to the
transferred data.
But this problem is easy to overcome by integrating symmetric
Robert,
Yet you are willing to send your password through the air just after you
established a connection with the handset of the merchant, whom you don't
know, using an internet gateway from a telco whose name you never heard and
about the security protocols of which you have no clue, in a
Robert,
If you ever tried to beam a phone number from a Samsung handset
The phones should communicate through BlueTooth. If they are not compatible,
it means that some producers don't respect the standard.
Worse, if the handset is used as identifier, e-gold becomes stealable
The phones are
Robert wrote And who pays for the cell phone calls?
Hold on here, I was thinking that the phones connect to the Internet, not
make an international call to E-gold :) An Internet connection is usually
part of the contract with the provider (for G3 phones), so users don't pay
anything else. No SMS,
Forget smart cards! You have to make large investments in hardware: cards
and card readers. All can be done with existing hardware.
The system has to work with programmable cell phones (or PDAs with
integrated cell phones). The phones must be able to comunicate with one
another, for example,
Robert wrote: Malaysia has declared that she will replace foreign currency
reserves with gold over the next two years
What better place to make, test, use a E-gold debit card (EGDC)?
Regards,
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Jim Davidson just pointed out to me that debit card generates confusion,
and it should be smart card. So, I rename my baby to E-gold smart card
(EGSC).
This system should be tightly integrated with the E-gold systems because of
security reasons, though it's not mandatory.
For example, each EGSC
James, you didn't understand me. There is no egold on any card! You don't
have to worry about the security of the egold because it is all on your
computers!
The card is a simple key, it contains just a user name and a password. When
you go into a shop, the card is put into the E-gold device and
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