At 1:47 AM -0400 6/23/03, Robert S.Z. wrote:
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All that said, I still think DBourse is great. It just would be much
greater with brokerages - or with a decent clearing system...
It would be nice if they automated things a bit more. sci.e-gold.com
reveals http://101574-AUG100.e-gold.com is a
Yep JPM is correct.
A preferred (subscriber) share or PSS means that the shareholder is
preferred in the line of payouts when the company is being liquidated.
Most often this preferred right comes as a trade off for voting rights.
Means preferred subscribers don't get to vote, but will get the
So there is no conceivable value in a brokerage.
Sure there is. A brokerage with a 1mdc account could credit me on the
spot, place my order on the spot, and i might have boght 20 shares and
sold 18 of them at a profit before the guy at the trading desk checked his
e-gold account once ;o)
Robert,
I don't have enough time at the moment to keep up with this conversation and get into
it, but I am really interested in this whole
concept. We would be interested in releasing a similar offering although I think a
lower per share price makes more sense. I think
listing all comers would be the
Obviously the opposite can happen as well, and if anything is
attempted to shut down
the offshore island Sealand (or even the rumor) , the value of your
shares in TGC
will probably drop significantly, it could be even difficult to find
an interested
buyer in a worst case scenario.
But this doesn't
Baskets of commodities are poor units of accounts, stores of value and
mediums of exchange, and are therefore poor moneys.
A tabular standard of value adds noise and politics exactly where it is
least required -- to the reference commodity.
Tabular standards are inefficient in redemption and
The mines are silly not to just do the simple thing and use what's
already there -- e-gold, but they're welcome to try this scheme. I
just want to see the fine print, I guess.
Well, I looked up some more information and there is a small commission
indeed.
0.02% per month, which covers
If it is not clear what part of the company a share represents, then you
cannot really call it a stock.
But Danny, the amount of a stock issued changes constantly. MSFT
stock was at first 1 million shares, so if you owned 1, you owned
1/millionth of the company (sort of), Bill owned
Hello Danny,
I think that many people are under the misapprehension that the
storage component in a digital currency system is a significant cost.
This is simply not the case. The storage costs are miniscule in
comparison to other normal operating costs.
For me as an e-gold user it doesn't
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: For me as an e-gold user it doesn't matter what it costs e-gold to
store the
: gold, what matters to me is how much I have to pay for the storage,
which
: 1.2% annually.
Later the board decided to dilute the stock and issue 9 million more
shares. Your 1 share now means you own one-ten-millionth of the
company. Bill now owns 5% of the company.
This is true,
indeed. ie, what you said earlier was incorrect. previously you
spoke as if you thought companies
I have opened brokerage accounts, futures trading accounts and even Swiss
bank account all online just like you sign up for e-gold.
And I am not even living in the US.
Don't believe me: www.internaxx.com will open you a brokerage account in
Luxembourg, www.xpresstrade.com and you will be
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 01:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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1mdc is e-gold itself, but circulated electronically!
So if 1mdc is electronically circulated e-gold, what then is e-gold?
Gold circulated by carrier pidgins?
;)
e-gold's motto or tagline is gold itself, circulated electronically
Are the 400 shares the whole of the company? As such do the share holders
(the people who own the 400 shares) have control of the company?
Say, I have a million shares in my company. I decide to release 400 shares
I sell these based on the promise of a divident of 7.2 % pa. Investors buy
these
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 01:47 AM, Robert S.Z. wrote:
You can't take friction away from a frictionless system.
Of course not! But calling e-gold or DBourse frictionless is the same
as
calling a bottle an endless supply. First you gotta get it in there,
before you can use it.
...
That's 12%
Hello all,
If I have some money in Latvia bank. Does anyone know
is there any good investment out there? I am looking
for some stable and reliable return plan.
Thanks.
Max
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JP May wrote:
Whereas TGC shares are utterly rock solid, riskless, shares in a utility.
Of course 'riskless' is a relative thing but they are 'riskless' in the
sense that treasuries are riskless or normal inner city 1st world real
estate is riskless. Low return, super conservative, utilitiy
At 1:50 PM +0300 6/23/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote:
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Well, I looked up some more information and there is a small commission
indeed.
0.02% per month, which covers everything, storage and management of the
fund.
Ah, much better (though their redemption policy is still irrational --
ANYONE
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cover their expenses by the commission they have on the trade
I think E-gold doesn't want to eliminate the storage fee for a very simple
reason: it forces people to spend! People are more likely to spend their
gold if they know there is a storage fee that would be paid if the gold
would just sit
Later the board decided to dilute the stock and issue 9 million more
shares. Your 1 share now means you own one-ten-millionth of the
company. Bill now owns 5% of the company.
This is true,
indeed. ie, what you said earlier was incorrect. previously you
spoke as if you thought
But shares (as in, you know, MSFT) don't work like what you describe,
Darren. There's no certain number of shares that is MSFT, and if
there is (say) 5 billion out there currently, that means that that 5
billion is X percent of the totalshares simply dont work like
that. Companies issue
: A DGC which would use this gold ETF as backing, would be able to
offer much
: lower fees.
Danny,
Pecunix charges ZERO storage fees, as does 1MDC... you can't go lower
than that!
True, but Pecunix also has a 2% above spot purchase cost, so you have to
hold for 2 years before Pecunix
(I'm not sure if e-gold's storage fees will stay the same for that long!)
The e-gold storage fee is only 1% per year, not 1.2%.
Also, e-gold is just plain worth more because you can do things with
it that you can't do with this stuff BESIDES just being long gold. For
similar reasons, ten
actually I just realized they have that
Just imagine Gordon, we could start setting up datacenters on old
freighters and cruise around the world while offering 'mobile' hosting
services :o)
Sure, we wouldn't have our own 'jurisdiction' as sealand has, but we'd be
out of everybody's jurisdiction
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 01:02 PM, Danny Van den Berghe wrote:
Just the obvious question that others already asked too: how many
shares
will be outstanding, or in other words what part of the company is
being
sold in this ipo 20%, 40%, perhaps 100%
Yeah JP, what about that?
That is dead
Danny,
I much appreciate your persistence. You have far more patience
than I do. While I don't think you will ever get any straight
answers I am glad you are asking your questions. They are the
right questions and need to be asked. Better you than me tho!
Best,
CCS
Yes, it is certainly fast enough, but is the bandwidth cheap enough? remains to be
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in the carribean? lol... what stinking jurisdiction...??? they don't want you in one
just float to another...
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 00:46:43 -0400
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I wonder if anyone can give me some advices on the following?
1. Is
From: Robert S.Z. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 01:47:55 -0400
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: brokerage disintermediated
Instead let's do the maths:
I buy $11,500 worth of e-gold and pay 3% commission to the exchanger.
Four days and $65
Can these sites be trusted? Any good suggestions?
In my opinion there ain't no such thing as a trust-worthy HYIP.
Sure there are ways to generate huge returns and it's not even hard. But
HYIP ain't it.
Scroll down some 200 messages and you will find a whole week's discussions
about the
From: Robert S.Z. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 02:15:52 -0400
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: share market misunderstandings
There are two types of stock, common and preferred. A share of common stock
in a firm represents an ownership
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:21:16 +1000
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion
Ok, but what will the relevance of the information be , when you don't know
how big is your share?
1/400 = .0025
There is something
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On 23 Jun 2003, at 18:31, Cambist.net wrote:
There are two types of stock, common and preferred. ...
John,
Excellent summary of the common usages of the terms. Of
course, JP won't buy any of it.
Best,
CCS
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On 23 Jun 2003, at 18:49, Cambist.net wrote:
How many shares, in total, are there of the company? Are these 400
shares out of 1000, 400 out of 10,000, or what? If there are only 400
shares in TGC and you own one share, you own 0.25% of the company. But
obviously the owners of TGC must have
At 7:02 PM -0400 6/23/03, Robert S.Z. wrote:
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Sure there are ways to generate huge returns and it's not even hard. But
HYIP ain't it.
Scroll down some 200 messages and you will find a whole week's discussions
about the subject.
...
Or just skip right to the URL below...(I have it as a
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:45:55 +1000
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion
But shares (as in, you know, MSFT) don't work like what you describe,
Darren. There's no certain number of shares that is MSFT, and if
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 06:49 PM, Cambist.net wrote:
How many shares, in total, are there of the company? Are these 400
shares
out of 1000, 400 out of 10,000, or what? If there are only 400 shares
in
TGC and you own one share, you own 0.25% of the company. But obviously
the
owners of TGC
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At 8:02 PM +0300 6/23/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote:
A share is only a share if it has a 'size' and I cannot know the size just
from the number of shares that are being offered in the ipo
Danny, as we are completely at loggerheads, I think I am starting to
understand your viewpont.
Lets just
From: Danny Van den Berghe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:02:03 +0300
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion
Just the obvious question that others already asked too: how many shares
will be outstanding, or in other words what
From: FileMatrix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:29:07 +0300
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Free storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)
I think E-gold doesn't want to eliminate the storage fee for a very simple
reason: it forces people to
From: Danny Van den Berghe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:22:35 +0300
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Free storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)
Enron was to do with 'cooking the books', so that the losses /loans and
risks they were taking
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 11:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
But what part of that is the whole company, is the whole company
worth 400,000, 4 million or 40 million. .. ie, is my 400,000
100% of the company, or only 10% or only1% ?
Am I basically correct -- ie that's the or one of the
From: James M. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:20:00 -0400
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Free storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)
At 10:22 PM +0300 6/23/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote:
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Of course, and there are also things you can
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John wrote:
: Someone could set up a futures exchange using e-gold. People could
loan
: $1000 of e-gold out to the shorts, who would take possession for
let's say a
: 1 month contract, then at the end of the month the shorts pay back
the
: e-gold.
From: Danny Van den Berghe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:01:48 +0300
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC
Pecunix charges ZERO storage fees, as does 1MDC... you can't go lower
than that!
True, but Pecunix also has a 2%
From: Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:18:27 +1200
To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-gold-list] Bamdex -was free storage
John, this has already been done, JP built bamdex.com... nobody used
it so he had to close it down :-(
Sidd
I had never heard
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 01:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If you want to get rich, sell shoes
Hilarious! In a strange coincidence, I just told that one to my wife
earlier this evening.
She has been an independent rep for wholesale women's accessories for a
long time, but in August
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