[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-21 Thread Cambist.net


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From: Patrick Chkoreff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?
Date: Fri, Sep 20, 2002, 4:12 PM

Patrick wrote:

Let me pose a specific scenario.

Imagine how cool it would be if I could tell an employer to direct-deposit 
my paycheck into a certain bank, and unbeknownst to my employer the funds 
would actually go to a market maker acting as a bank who would then dump 
gold into my account.



We basically do this right now. We have customers who have told their
employers to deposit a portion of their paycheck every pay cycle directly
into our account via ACH. Then we later credit that person's e-gold
account. 


- John


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[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-21 Thread Patrick Chkoreff

Patrick wrote:
 Let me pose a specific scenario.
 
 Imagine how cool it would be if I could tell an employer to direct-deposit
 my paycheck into a certain bank, and unbeknownst to my employer the funds
 would actually go to a market maker acting as a bank who would then dump
 gold into my account.

John Kyle wrote:
We basically do this right now. We have customers who have told their
employers to deposit a portion of their paycheck every pay cycle directly
into our account via ACH. Then we later credit that person's e-gold
account.

That rocks.  It doesn't get much easier than that!

-- Patrick


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[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-21 Thread Colonel Bosco

That more then rocks, sounds like suicide to me since ACH transfers can be 
reversed 90 to 180 days after they complete.

Have fun, I am sure the crooks using E-Gold will catch up with you soon..

MB


John Kyle wrote:
We basically do this right now. We have customers who have told their
employers to deposit a portion of their paycheck every pay cycle directly
into our account via ACH. Then we later credit that person's e-gold
account.


That rocks.  It doesn't get much easier than that!

-- Patrick



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[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread George Matyjewicz

At 03:49 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, Fred Michaelis wrote:
Just one quick observation.  In the USA, strangely enough, most people buy
things using the US dollar.  Why?  Because a lot of sellers will accept
it.  So, it would follow, if  sellers sold more things for the value of
E-gold, it would not be a problem to have all or most of your money in
E-gold.  If  you have E-gold, it is no problem spending it at the grocery
store, as long as you have used it to load an offshore debit card.

I spend e-Gold at my grocery store - Krogers and Stop  Shop, and at BP Gas 
(petro for our Aussie friends) and this week even at a local hardware 
store.  They have a pin-based POS machine, and I use the debit card with 
Cash Cards and pay from my account.  The only complaint I ever heard from 
them was how heavy the gold bars were and how they jammed up the ATMs g

Getting money out of the system is easy with a debit card.  Getting money 
in the system is still the challenge, and so far nobody has any good 
answers.  The Australian banking system and TechnoCash in  Sydney are both 
viable alternatives, at least if you live down under.  The banking system 
in the US  is very fragmented due to antiquated banking laws, which makes 
it almost impossible to arrange something to have national coverage.

Me thinks we need something similar to check cashing services.

George





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[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff

At 04:21 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, George Matyjewicz wrote:

Me thinks we need something similar to check cashing services.

I think you're onto something there, George.  You have to be the bank, 
figuratively or maybe someday even literally.

-- Patrick


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[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread jpm

Here's the thing you guys.

There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy 
to convert from national currencies to GOLD

(Here's why:
http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html )

It will not, cannot and never will be easy.  Let's say historically 
over the 20 years 2000-2020 France moves from Euros to e-gold.  That 
will NOT be easy, nothing about it will be easy.

(Changing from Francs to Euros was very simple, because .. both are a 
joke.  But changing from Euros to actual GOLD (for god's sake) will 
be fraught with difficulties at every step.)

It will be a challenging, gruelling, grinding process.


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[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff

At 04:31 PM 9/20/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to 
convert from national currencies to GOLD

(Here's why:
http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html )

It will not, cannot and never will be easy.

I didn't say it would ever be easy.  I'm just wondering if it can be easier 
than it is today.

-- Patrick


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[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread Goldtoday



Patrick Chkoreff wrote:

 At 04:31 PM 9/20/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy 
 to convert from national currencies to GOLD

 (Here's why:
 http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html )

 It will not, cannot and never will be easy. 


One day it will.

Profit is a great incentive, almost as high on the scale as survival. 
 20 years ago one could not imagine transferring money from your chair 
at home around the world and receiving funds the same way.  Now it is 
commonplace (at least here in Australia and NZ,  not sure about the US - 
grin).

Eventually someone will have enough incentive to find a way to make it 
convienient and easy,  just as ways have been found to send mass 
communications around the globe in seconds.

Incentive found a way for us to fly,  to drive fancy cars, to improve 
production in many many ways.

This will be no different.

Progress will march inexonerably on   doomsayers notwithstanding.

Kind regards,
 
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[e-gold-list] Re: Why would anyone need Pay Pal?

2002-09-20 Thread Patrick Chkoreff

JP wrote:
There IS NO WAY, and there will never be a way, for it to be easy to 
convert from national currencies to GOLD

(Here's why:
http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html )

It will not, cannot and never will be easy.

Patrick wrote:
I didn't say it would ever be easy.  I'm just wondering if it can be 
easier than it is today.


Let me pose a specific scenario.

Imagine how cool it would be if I could tell an employer to direct-deposit 
my paycheck into a certain bank, and unbeknownst to my employer the funds 
would actually go to a market maker acting as a bank who would then dump 
gold into my account.

I mean, we're kind of getting there with Gaithman's and other MM's ability 
to direct deposit funds into their accounts and receive gold in 
return.  All we need is a direct deposit route.

Sure, the funding of your gold account would not be easy for the market 
maker.  He would definitely have to confirm receipt of funds, wait the 
proper number of days, acquire new bars, and all the hard stuff implied by 
the May Scale.  It's just that HE'D have to do it, not YOU.  :-)   :-)

-- Patrick




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