How about uploading some stereo MP3s we can download and listen to?
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hi Kevin,
On 19 Nov 2007 at 17:06, KBG Luxford wrote:
I looked at G4ILO, Julian's, site and found there an interesting
discussion of the Plantronics Gamecon 1 for use with the K2. Now this
headset is not available down here in Oz as far as I can determine. I
am wondering if Julian or
Their statment should steer you clear away from
considering the Plantronics Gamecon headset.
de Joe, aa4nn
SNIP
The .Audio 350 is a modern equivalent to the old GameCom 1; the two
headsets have comparable specifications however neither of these products
are radio headsets. We do not rate our
Chris,
I cannot relate 'sidetone in the headset' with SSB operation. In CW,
there is a sidetone presented to the headphones or speaker which follows
the keying, but there is nothing of that sort for SSB. If you lost your
CW sidetone while using the K2 memory, that is quite another matter.
Julian G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:00 AM
How about uploading some stereo MP3s we can download and listen to?
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Although a stereo recording should give you a good idea of the effect, it
might
that statement ( from Plantronics) is so marketing
The last thing Plantronics wants is to have dispatch centers who pay
160-300 per headset DISCOVER how to integrate mass marketed PC
marketed ( read low pricepoint) microphones into their systems. Yes
they may be built to endure a tougher
Just my opinion here:
For those who have the 'where-with-all' to build a proper adapter for
these PC microphones and headsets, many of them will work just fine -
some even great. Besides, they are inexpensive things to experiment
with just to see if you can make it work for your use.
But if
I cannot relate 'sidetone in the headset' with SSB operation. In CW,
there is a sidetone presented to the headphones or speaker which
follows the keying, but there is nothing of that sort for SSB.
The K3 does provide a means of monitoring the transmitted audio (but
that is not a
The reason for sidetone is that it makes talking much easier if you can hear
your own voice. Early telephones could easily be made to have no sidetone,
but it was found that the user found it difficult to speak properly, so some
of their voice was fed back just for this purpose. If you have
Hi Bob:
I understand that Elecraft transceivers to date have really been a CW ops
dream, which leads me to the following question re the K3: Will phone (SSB)
operators find this rig as wonderful with regard to voice as CW operators do
with CW?
Just finished operating in the SS Phone... NOT my
Tom,
Thanks for the report. You have me salivating for my K3.
On 11/19/07 7:12 AM, Tom Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Bob:
I understand that Elecraft transceivers to date have really been a CW ops
dream, which leads me to the following question re the K3: Will phone (SSB)
operators
Ken,
My shield was OK. The white tissue paper was a bit out of character, but
the shield was protected. That was some scratch you show in your photo.
At least it's hidden a bit!
That clearance you mention is close, but nothing contacting the shield. :)
I'm stuck at the moment waiting for a
Everybody has sidetone. When you record your voice and play it back
you'll notice it doesn't sound the same as you hear yourself because
you hear your speech returning through your skull bones. While wearing
headphones you're hearing the murmur or sidetone if you will
returning through your skull
Is there any word on the availability of the External Reference Option and
the cost??
Larry Putman WB3ANQ
Pasadena, Maryland FM19rc
K3 on Order
Be a better pen pal.
Text or chat with
Is there any word on the availability of the External Reference Option and
the cost??
Larry Putman WB3ANQ
Pasadena, Maryland FM19rc
K3 on Order
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo
Serial #80 (K3/100 kit with ATU, TCXO, 2.8 KHz and 400 Hz filters),
ordered 30th April, shipped 14th November arrived by UPS Express this
afternoon... Now to burn some midnight oil.
All items appear to be present and correct, but I've not opened/checked
every item.
73 Dave, G4AON
Hello all,
For a home brew project I need a number of PCB mounted audio pot's, similar
to the one used in the K2.
Does anybody know a source for these?
Thank you in advance.
Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt
Middelburg, Netherlands
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Sorry for the missing subject in my first message
Is there any word on the availability of the External Reference Option and
the cost??
Larry Putman WB3ANQ
Pasadena, Maryland FM19rc
Would any K3 owners care to offer commentary on the general coverage recieve
without the KBPF3 Module?
Regards,
Dick - KA5KKT/4
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I've finally gotten my K3 on the air for 'phone Sweepstakes.
But that leads to a question that may have been answered already- Is
the audio input hard selected, as it appears, or can multiple inputs
be used, depending on where PTT is asserted? I'd like for my computer
to act as a DVK feeding the
Greetings all:
Trying to put K3 SN 42 on SSB to make a few SS contacts, using an Elecraft
MH-2 Mic. I set up MIC SEL for FP:h and turned on the bias. I can adjust
the Mic gain and compression, and hear the results with MON turned on, and
see the CMP and ALC graphs function. It seems to
On Nov 18, 2007 8:49 PM, Alan D. Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just posted more pix on http://wilcoxengineering.com/K3sn40.aspx
Thanks for posting them. Did you do some straightening up of the
toroids or were yours just more neatly done than the one we saw the
pictures of a week or so ago?
Everybody has sidetone. When you record your voice and play it back
you'll notice it doesn't sound the same as you hear yourself because
you hear your speech returning through your skull bones. While wearing
headphones you're hearing the murmur or sidetone if you will
returning through your skull
But that leads to a question that may have been answered already- Is
the audio input hard selected, as it appears, or can multiple inputs
be used, depending on where PTT is asserted?
There is one PTT line inside the radio. Thus, the K3 has no way of
knowing if you pressed a PTT button on
That's what I was afraid of.
Oh well,
73, doug
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:32:14 -0800
From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But that leads to a question that may have been answered already- Is
the audio input hard selected, as it appears, or can multiple inputs
be used,
If you did hear me I would be interested in any reports. Early in the contest I was told that my
audio was weak and one of our club told me to crank up the compression. By the end I had the
compression cranked all the way up and a lot of high-range gain (FP.H setting) dialed in. The
Monitor
Doug,
If you're using a computer, the application could potentially send
commands to the K3 to select different TX audio sources in real time.
We're working with software developers and adding new remote control
commands as needed.
73,
Wayne
N6KR
On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Doug Faunt
Are these viable speaker replacements for the K1 when an internal battery
pack is used?
http://www.regalusa.com/micro_speakers___receivers.html
Alan KB7MBI
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One issue here is that the K3 only allows a single audio source. Some
other radios (e.g., Orion) allow you to enable both the rear line-in
jack and the front panel mic jack.
The simple K3 work-around seems to be to Y the front panel mic jack
and pad down the line level audio to go in the front
Yes, I also recently requested that DATA A mode default to the LINE IN
jack, if there's not a per-mode default for MIC SEL and GAIN. The
built-in isolated data interface is great and I unplugged my
TigerTronics SL-1+ and used just two cables for digital modes. But as
it is, you have to
From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:42:12 -0800
Doug,
If you're using a computer, the application could potentially send
commands to the K3 to select different TX audio sources in real time.
We're working with software developers and adding new
Hello Barry!
One issue here is that the K3 only allows a single audio source. Some
other radios (e.g., Orion) allow you to enable both the rear line-in
jack and the front panel mic jack.
We have an active discussion going on with the FT group about this very
topic.
The K3 hardware can
Hello Leigh!
... But as
it is, you have to remember to change the MIC SEL setting and readjust
the MIC GAIN when you switch from SSB to PSK.
The LINE IN Gain and MIC Gain are separately maintained values, even
though they use the same control, so when you switch from MIC to LINE
the
Thank you Lyle! So 50% of my problem is already solved! I can see you
have many requests in this area and will be patient for you to work out
what the right thing to do is.
73,
Leigh/WA5ZNU
Hello Leigh!
... But as
it is, you have to remember to change the MIC SEL setting and
readjust the
Did you do the TRANSMITTER TEST steps on page 52?
They're a must.
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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If they're both active, you mix them. During ssb contest with the
Orion, N1MM Logger software has a check option to disable mic during
DVK'ing. What N1MM actually does in code is turn the front panel mic
gain down to zero during DVK'ing and then restores it after.
Yes, if the user goes the y
A few of the toroids were shoved over (from pack/ship), and I set those
aright; otherwise I did not do much to line up etc.
But while I'm thinking toroids, I wasn't impressed with the windings
themselves. Instead of evenly-distributed turns, the turns were clumped
up in 2's and 3's, large
or even a KX1 spkr If anybody knows what Apple is using for the
iPhone spkrs... please holler. they sound pretty decent for the size.
Niel
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Are these viable speaker replacements for the K1 when an internal battery
pack is used?
Opinions are like noses. Everyone has one. So here is mine. I have been
licensed since 1965, and have been a contester, both phone and cw, almost from
the begining. My first contest was the 1966 Novice Roundup.
Matt has some good points here. However, you may not wish to baptise a
I seldom operate phone, but ARRL Sweepstakes Phone is one exception. Our
local contest club pushes all members to get on both modes of Sweepstakes
for the club competition. I normally dread the approach of the phone
weekend and while this year was no exception, I was curious how the K3 would
Lyle,
Since the K3 hardware design is pretty well fixed in place now, for my
part I would think mixing them would be fine. Any muting of an input
would have to be done outside the K3 if indeed muting is required.
Of course, I believe the ideal would be to have each PTT input line make
its
Ed, I'm waiting for my K3 and I'm a phone man at present (working on my
Morse).
I have a 2.8kHz and 400Hz on order. Reading your post, maybe I should
consider either a 1.8 or a 2.1 kHz filter too.
Given the option, which would choose?
Anyone else want to chip in too please.
Kind of decision I
Sorry, that should have been a choice between 1.5 1.8 ...
On 19/11/07 19:19, David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
Ed, I'm waiting for my K3 and I'm a phone man at present (working on my
Morse).
I have a 2.8kHz and 400Hz on order. Reading your post, maybe I should consider
either
Just to throw in my opinion, Another Menu Entry is not a real
problem, but it can be a real solution.
Being able to combine audio from Line In and Mic does the trick for
me. I'll just wire up the Mic PTT to enable the audio from the mike.
BTW, many comments have been made about how tight 20M
I can only second Ed's comments. I, too, am a non-phone operator
but SS did seem to be a good time to wring out the K3 on that mode.
It's true, the vox/anti vox is flawless. No first syllable clipping and no
annoying drop outs. The K3 audio is so clean that its a real
pleasure to listen to. Ed
If there were a 1.5kHz filter available, I might consider it. I'll be
talking with INRAD about it. You can see what 1.5kHz is like by moving the
DSP down to 1.5kHz, or even lower. You just won't have the crystal filter
to keep nearby strong signals out of the DSP.
I think the 1.8kHz filter
What was the rationale behind a cutting edge (2007-08) product such as the
Elecraft K3 being supplied with a RS232 interface in stead of a USB port? I
think it was 5 computers ago the last I saw the 9 pin RS2323. If eventually
they do change to a USB direct port, will this be a retro fit for
Sorry for the bandwidth, but I can't find the matching post. What is
the URL for the K3 user registry?
tnx...de Doug KR2Q
PS...no didn't get mine ...not due yet (ordered at Dayton)
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Hey Steve,
I didn't really baptise the K3 with SS. It was just the first serious
contest opportunity I've had time for.
And you're right - weird conditions prevailed.
matt
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:38:16 -0800, you wrote:
Opinions are like noses. Everyone has one. So here is mine. I have
See http://www.elecraft.com/ Look for the K3 Online Order Page.
KUSB Universal Serial Bus Adapter $39.00
A somewhat useful answer is that many hams use downrev computers. This
seems to be because they spend a lot of $ on radio equipment.
matt, WA6EGJ
K3 s/n 24
14:39:12 -0500, you wrote:
On Nov 19, 2007 7:49 PM, Ruchan Ozatay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Second Sending!!
Any answer?
Ruchan - TA2AH
I would like to know if it is really necessary to use DeoxIt or ProGold
product during the K3 (or any Elecraft products) assembling procedure or
not?
Any answer from Elecraft crew
It seems to me that if it were indeed really necessary to use any of
these products during the assembly of the K3 (or other Elecraft
Products) then this requirement would have been stated in the specs and
included in the assembly instructions. Since it isn't, then it is
apparent to me that it
Bob -
One issue might have been that I believe equipment that incorporates USB
requires a licensing fee, whereas RS-232 does not. I have no idea how
much the fee is, but it might have a significant impact on a relatively
low volume product like the K3.
- Jim, KL7CC
Bob wrote:
What
What was the rationale behind a cutting edge (2007-08) product such as the
Elecraft K3 being supplied with a RS232 interface in stead of a USB port?
There were several considerations:
1) Many of our customers have older computers with RS232 ports and not
USB ports.
2) USB - RS232 adapters
One rationale is probably that RS-232 is still a widely recognized
standard that is also very simple to implement on any computer,
whereas USB would require the development of complex drivers that
would make it even less likely that Linux or Mac users will be
supported than is currently the case.
Van W1WCG wrote:
Big problem is: there is no RF
output from the radio at all.
Is there a special secret to getting SSB to work ? ? Yes, VOX/PTT is set
to PTT and the transmit indicator lights up.
Make sure that you have done the transmitter power calibration at 5 and
50 watts for each
What was the rationale behind a cutting edge (2007-08) product such as the
Elecraft K3 being supplied with a RS232 interface in stead of a USB port?
When I built my current PC a year ago, I specifically looked for a motherboard
with a serial port. There are still a variety of products out there
I will be using the On-Air Headset from US Interface with my K-3 when the
K-3 arrives http://www.usinterface.com/Headset.html
This is the same place that the Navigator digital-mode interface comes from
which I believe Simon just purchased for his K-3.
The headset-mic is a featherweight dual
There are still people put there using DOS logging programs, too.
They wouldn't have USB support in that mode.
73, doug
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:10:20 -0800
From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What was the rationale behind a cutting edge (2007-08) product such as the
Elecraft K3
Good question Ruchan and I, too, was watching for answers.
I understand some fabricators do use it as a preventative, but I don't
know why: are they using a substandard connector material that needs the
help or is there some other reason?
I did not use DeOxit on my K3 or any other rig. I
One of the variable-passband filters we've been considering is one for
SSB, with a range of about 1.4 to 2.2 kHz. It would have 5 poles rather
than 8, but I'm sure it would work well in combination with the I.F.
DSP. The MCU would automatically dial in the crystal filter bandwidth
to match the
Greetings Folks,
I've just resurrected my XV144 after a year of none use. I needed to
make up a new cable for the K2 to the XV. Everyting seems norml except
that the LEDs are not lighting on transmit. As the relays operate, one
bar flicks on and then goes off. I am getting about 15 watts
Second Sending!!
Any answer?
Ruchan - TA2AH
Hi,
I would like to know if it is really necessary to use DeoxIt or
ProGold product during the K3 (or any Elecraft products) assembling
procedure or not?
Any answer from Elecraft crew would be apreciated.
73, Ruchan (TA2AH)
I use Deoxit or
That looks like a very good plan - Wayne, you've just done yourself out of a
2.1kHz sale!
I'll wait for the variables.
Now should I swap my 400 for a 200?
On 19/11/07 21:24, wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
One of the variable-passband filters we've been considering is one for
SSB, with a
Thanks to all who sent me good advice and suggestions regarding
my problems with SSB transmission. In the end I received a hint
from Lyle Johnson, KK7P, that solved the problem. During the
initial setup of the filters, I somehow managed NOT to set the value
for FL TX SB properly, and it was set
Two followup comments. (1) I can't put a date or specs on the variable
filters yet. (2) Ebay is a good place for previously-owned fixed
filters.
:)
73,
Wayne
N6KR
On Nov 19, 2007, at 1:42 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
That looks like a very good plan - Wayne, you've just done yourself
Concerning SS Phone. The bands were extremely crowded which caused a whole lot
of stress on the operators and rigs. I was multi-op at W0NO this year and we
used a PROIII. I was not impressed. Well, it worked, but the fatigue I
experienced after a 4 hours stint on the extremely crowded
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K1 sn. 2033
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I suspect there's going to be some very nice QRP rig designs that use
2.7kHz filters at 8.215 MHz.
Speaking of filters, I find it amusing that there's a 2.1kHz filter
available (I have one), but the WIDTH value jumps from 2.2 to 2.0 kHz.
73, doug
From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John,
Did you set up R10 properly? See page 28 of the new XV User's Manual
for instructions. You may download the manual if you have an older one.
(I am certain it is in the older manual too, just not certain where).
73,
Don W3FPR
I've just resurrected my XV144 after a year of none use.
Wayne -
I am probably going to be purchasing a K3 sometime within the next few
months. When I do, I am wondering about the filters. I have 2 each
Yaesu FT-1000 MK 5 transceivers with all the slots full of Inrad
filters. I read a message on this reflector several weeks ago that
implied
Since I was one of those who brought up the DeoxIT / ProGold usage, I'd like to
post the following report I received from another list member. I hope he
doesn't mind, as he'll remain nameless, and I've removed a thing or two from the
report which might identify his major aerospace company. I
Hi Jim,
The K3 uses completely different (and smaller) filter carrier boards.
Your MK5 filters could in theory be removed from the existing carriers
and put onto ours, but I'm not sure if we can supply empty carrier
boards for customer use. I'll have to run this one by Eric.
Another
Hi Tom
Thanks much for the report of the K3 in ssb contesting.
I'm very interested in the hardware noise blanker. Do
you have it yet? If so, did you notice an artifacts from
using it in a crowded band like that contest?
Thanks and 73
Bob N6WG
- Original Message -
From: Tom Hammond
Good Afternoon,
Last night twenty meters was not a happy band. Other than Rick's mighty KX1
signal there were no strong stations. He was 599 here while I could not hear
Pete's KX1 from California. It was rough going. Forty meters was not good to
me either but N0SS had a better time of
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:39:12 -0500, Bob wrote:
What was the rationale behind a cutting edge (2007-08) product
such as the Elecraft K3 being supplied with a RS232 interface in
stead of a USB port? I think it was 5 computers ago the last I
saw the 9 pin RS2323. If eventually they do change to a
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:40:40 -0500 (EST), Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
wrote:
There are still people put there using DOS logging programs, too.
They wouldn't have USB support in that mode.
That's always a problem. The program that I use for TNC
operation - PKGold - is a DOS program that
I did not really want to get into this discussion, but I now feel moved
to make a few observations.
First, I don't believe the use of DeoxIT /ProGold will hurt anything
*if* used properly. I would not use DeoxIT on gold connectors or the
ProGold on tin connectors - the effects are different.
Speaking of filters, I find it amusing that there's a 2.1kHz
filter available (I have one), but the WIDTH value jumps from
2.2 to 2.0 kHz.
It's been on the firmware issue list for some time now. Wayne is working on
higher priories, and I'm glad he is!
73,
Ed - W0YK
Hallo Lyle,
You specify to the K3 which of three possible sources ...
It could however make sense, if possible to allow multi audio input.
An example would be an external DVK (e.g. Laptop) hooked up to line in
and the microphone connected to one of the microphone inputs.
One could be
I should have stated that, other than names and two pictures, that was the
entirety of the report I received.
Also, as Don pointed out, there's undoubtedly a lot more to the story than the
short summary report I was forwarded, so it's still left up to the individual
user to decide for themselves.
Try http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html
Bruce Bowman, NM5B
Santa Fe, NM
Sorry for the bandwidth, but I can't find the matching post. What is
the URL for the K3 user registry?
tnx...de Doug KR2Q
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Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:
There are still people put there using DOS logging programs, too.
They wouldn't have USB support in that mode.
I'm one of them [486/33 our son used years ago in college + TRLog].
Latest isn't always Greatest. All USB==RS232 adapters are not
created
Number 80 went together without too much trouble. Around 5 hours for the
basic build (w/o 100 W PA). There were a couple of issues:
1. Two of the plastic LCD cover bolts were too long. Will request a
couple from support once I've added the PA, just in case something else
is in error.
2.
If I take my precious k2 in my car, I'd like to have an alternative
to just throwing it bare into the back seat. Is there a HARD CASE
that can be adapted / used for transporting the k2? Seems to me that
Elecraft could sell a bunch of them if it offered such. It'd be nice
to have one
Actually, for the K3 you should try
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Serial_Numbers
73,
Barry N1EU
Try http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html
Bruce Bowman, NM5B
Santa Fe, NM
Sorry for the bandwidth, but I can't find the matching post. What is
the URL for the K3 user
USB-to-RS232 adapters can show up problems- even Elecraft has had that
problem show up with firmware download on some computers (my laptop
being one of those). It's fixed now, of course.
I was able to update using a real serial port (PCMCIA card) on that
same computer, no problem.
It's often
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:00:49 -0800, Oliver Johns wrote:
Does anyone have hints as to what kind of case to look for, and which
ones they use?
I use a Pelican case www.pelican-case.com for my camera
equipment. It's just what you want. Either the 1200 or 1500
will do.
--
73 de K2ASP -
Oliver,
The padding of the back seat is all you likely need for quick transport
- the K2 is not as fragile as the cautions that many folks propose would
suggest.
If you want something that elephants (airline baggage handlers :-) ) can
stomp on without harming it, I would believe the pelican
Its here - but haven't yet figured out where the serial number is. Can
someone give me a hint?
tnx - Doug -- K0DXV
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Please DO NOT adjust the turns on any of the toroids in the K3 to make
them look nicer :)
In some circuits, we need to hold 2% or better tolerance on inductances
to meet filter passband cutoff or ripple criteria. We carefully
hand-adjust the windings after the toroids are mounted, because
Bzzt, I think it'd be better if this were implemented with the Line In
having priority. The computer knows how to be quiet better than my
scratchy throat does.
73, doug
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:08:06 +0100
From: Toby Deinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hallo Lyle,
You specify to the K3
anybody using an al811 ameritron with a k2/100.
how do you hook up the alc line.
ron, kc0tdj
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Ron,
You don't!!!
Depending on linear amplifier compression to control the driver output
level is a sure way to introduce distortion into your transmitter path.
Keep the drive level down to the point where the amplifier just peaks to
max output or below that level and all will be well (i.e.
1. Two of the plastic LCD cover bolts were too long. Will
request a couple from support once I've added the PA, just in
case something else is in error.
Be sure you didn't use two of the short 2-56 screws where the longer ones go
for the VFO plate.
2. Mating the front panel/DSP to the main
K3/100 s/n 77 Status:
I couldn't have asked for a better serial number. Guess I'll be up late
tonight. I can hear my boss now saying You got a K-what? and that's
more important than your project?. Yup. I'll need the next couple of
days off...
Doug -- K0DXV
Hi Group,
At Last !
The Big White Box arrived about 10 minutes ago, containing Serial Number
63 ( A K3/10 Kit ).
I'll be busy for a while
73
Glenn
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thanks don. an answer that explains it in simple terms.
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Don Wilhelm wrote:
If you want something that elephants (airline baggage handlers :-) )
can stomp on without harming it, I would believe the pelican case
would be the proper choice.
You wouldn't happen to know the exact model number of a Pelican case
that works, do 'ya? There's a Pelican store
Justin Croonenberghs wrote:
help
Uh...disregard. Sent to the wrong address
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Justin Croonenberghs
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