Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft[K-3] K144XV

2010-01-08 Thread AD6XY
I can not see any reference to noise figure in the brochure. Just MDS and FM sensitivity with no bandwidth. When I get mine I will measure the noise figure on a test set. It is likely to be under 2dB and I will use a low ENR head! I suspect like the XV144, the K144XV will need some gain

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft[K-3] K144XV

2010-01-08 Thread Giulio Pico - IW3HVB
IMHO an external sequencer is still the best way to have a foolproof system. Running QRO with a mast mounted lna isn't a good idea if you don't have one. 20 ms is not enough for sure, as most of the QRO coax relays have a switching time of that amount or even more My sequence timing is

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft[K-3] K144XV

2010-01-08 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, AD6XY m.j.wil...@rl.ac.uk wrote ... I can not see any reference to noise figure in the brochure. Just MDS and FM sensitivity with no bandwidth. The manual gives this as 1dB nominal. See http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K144XV%20Manual%20A3.pdf 73 -- David G4DMP/G3KEP Leeds,

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Softrock for K3 IF

2010-01-08 Thread Julian, G4ILO
It's worth asking around as there are a lot of unbuilt SoftRock kits around. I think people were either frightened off by the SMT parts or they just never got around to it. Building it is harder than doing a K3 mod. I do wonder how many people have actually tried the SoftRock on a K3 without a

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft[K-3] K144XV

2010-01-08 Thread John Lemay
It looks like TX Delay is variable from 8 to 20mS. Perhaps this range could be increased in the software ? John G4ZTR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Giulio Pico - IW3HVB Sent: 08 January 2010 09:23 To:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft[K-3] K144XV

2010-01-08 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
David, Wayne said: It's actually more like -144 dBm (500-Hz bandwidth). I assume that this refers to a K144XV installed in a K3. This equates to a noise figure of 3db. To achieve a lower noise figure, the gain used in the K144XV would have to be greater, which would further reduce the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Softrock for K3 IF

2010-01-08 Thread Paul Christensen
I found an article here http://www.kingsqueak.org/stuff/softrock_IF_tap.pdf that shows a buffer amp that can be built from parts most people probably already have... His buffer consists of a pair of cascaded FET source-followers. It would be a good idea to measure reverse isolation of the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft[K-3] K144XV

2010-01-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
The K3 has a TX INHibit input on the ACC connector that will inhibit RF for any length of time you desire. Drive it with an output from your sequencer that indicates sequence completed. See the manual for details. 73, Don W3FPR John Lemay wrote: It looks like TX Delay is variable from 8 to

[Elecraft] Icom SM-8 U/D buttons?

2010-01-08 Thread DM4iM
List, According to the Icom SM-8 Desktop Microphone manual, there is only 1 wire for the Up and Down buttons. So i suspect Icom feeds a positive voltage for up and a negative voltage for down (or vice versa). How to adapt this to make it work with K3? I had good audio reports so far. Martin --

Re: [Elecraft] k3 cw default bandwidth

2010-01-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gary, The K3 remembers the filter settings per band and per mode. Increase the DSP width and the filter selection will follow. You may have to have an assistant to know that the right DSP filter control is set to WIDTH instead of HI CUT - tapping the button toggles between those two

Re: [Elecraft] Icom SM-8 U/D buttons?

2010-01-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Martin, According to the SM-8 microphone schematic, the UP button connects the UP/DN line directly to ground, but the DN button connects the UP/DN button to ground through a 470 ohm resistor. You would have to convert these closures to 2 lines each of which is a circuit direct to ground, so

Re: [Elecraft] Noise Blankers

2010-01-08 Thread Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] Noise Blankers

2010-01-08 Thread Steve Ellington
I worked in a TV factory, 1968. We sent the new guys to the supply window for a raster stretcher. Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: gdaug...@stanford.edu To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Noise Blankers

Re: [Elecraft] Icom SM-8 U/D buttons?

2010-01-08 Thread DM4iM
Don, W3FPR, was fastest as usual :-) Problem solved, thanks. -- 73, DM4iM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Softrock for K3 IF

2010-01-08 Thread Paul Christensen
A final note: The author of that circuit created a pseudo low-Z output through the use of a 20 dB resistive pad. The 1K output Z of the final FET is feeding the low Z pad. Other than creating a lower final source Z at the expense of further circuit loss, I cannot imagine why he was satisfied

Re: [Elecraft] Noise Blankers

2010-01-08 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV sensitivity

2010-01-08 Thread Wayne Burdick
I just measured the MDS of a production K144XV: -145 dBm. This is with the module installed in a K3. It'll probably vary slightly from one unit to the next. 73, Wayne http://www.elecraft.com On Jan 8, 2010, at 2:44 AM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy gm4...@btinternet.com wrote:

[Elecraft] FS: KFL3A-500 Filter for K3

2010-01-08 Thread Bill Tippett
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[Elecraft] K144XV

2010-01-08 Thread David Fleming
I installed the K144XV module last night. The installation went smoothly with no problems. I also had to install the KXV3A, so it took a bit longer than installing the K144XV alone. I have one of the early K3's (serial #49), so I had to replace the left side panel and the fan panel and had to

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft[K-3] K144XV

2010-01-08 Thread AD6XY
I know this - so does everyone. I have actually read the manual. However, there is only one TX inhibit and it is shared with the K3 on signal, which I happen to be using. Even if I was not using it the inhibit might easily be set to the default K3 ON and be ignored. Perhaps one of the DIGOUT

Re: [Elecraft] K144XV

2010-01-08 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Thank you for the info, David. 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 KX1 (FIeld tester); K3; W2; mini mods -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Fleming Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 11:09 AM To: Elecraft reflector Subject:

[Elecraft] K3 K144XV Questions

2010-01-08 Thread Phil Hystad
A few questions about the K144XV... 1. I noticed from the manual that the chassis stiffener that comes with the K144XV seems to be the same one that I already have in my late model K3 (3799). Is this true? 2. Although I can look it is easier to ask: would it also be true that the need to

Re: [Elecraft] Noise Blankers

2010-01-08 Thread George Jan
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 K144XV Questions

2010-01-08 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Phil, A few questions about the K144XV... 1. I noticed from the manual that the chassis stiffener that comes with the K144XV seems to be the same one that I already have in my late model K3 (3799). Is this true? The modified chassis stiffener has been phased into production. In

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 K144XV Questions

2010-01-08 Thread pd0psb
A totally different question: Is support for coarse tuning in European VHF frequency rasters (6,25 12,5kHz) somewhere high on The List? 73' Paul PD0PSB wayne burdick wrote: Hi Phil, A few questions about the K144XV... 1. I noticed from the manual that the chassis stiffener that

Re: [Elecraft] K144XV sensitivity

2010-01-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Bob - What does this correlate to in NF? e Wayne Burdick wrote: I just measured the MDS of a production K144XV: -145 dBm. This is with the module installed in a K3. It'll probably vary slightly from one unit to the next. 73, Wayne http://www.elecraft.com On Jan 8, 2010, at

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 K144XV Questions

2010-01-08 Thread Wayne Burdick
Yes. Wayne N6KR On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:22 AM, pd0psb wrote: A totally different question: Is support for coarse tuning in European VHF frequency rasters (6,25 12,5kHz) somewhere high on The List? 73' Paul PD0PSB wayne burdick wrote: Hi Phil, A few questions about the K144XV...

Re: [Elecraft] My Predicament

2010-01-08 Thread westalto
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 K144XV Questions

2010-01-08 Thread pd0psb
fb! mni tnx 73' Paul PD0PSB Yes. Wayne N6KR On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:22 AM, pd0psb wrote: A totally different question: Is support for coarse tuning in European VHF frequency rasters (6,25 12,5kHz) somewhere high on The List? -- View this message in context:

[Elecraft] K144XV and +TX signal on BNC?

2010-01-08 Thread Alexandr Kobranov
Hello friends, I tried to look for below mentioned function (jumper settings) in 144MHz module but in last rev of manual I missed or it is not there. (yet?) Are there any details about this possibility - to put +TX to centre pin of BNC output? Thanks for info, 73! Lexa, ok1dst K3/10 #727

[Elecraft] Prop wash

2010-01-08 Thread Ralph Parker
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[Elecraft] K3 and HRD

2010-01-08 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Either I have something set wrong in my K3 or in HRD and I do not know IF that is true or which one is set wrong. Waterfall with the actual frequency being displayed on the ruler bar above the waterfall: Radio set to 7.035, data mode, PSK signal showing at 7.037, tune radio to 7.036, frequency

[Elecraft] K3 New DSP Replacing

2010-01-08 Thread Steve Ellington
I got my new DSP-C board. Somewhere I saw a step by step on how how to replace it. Can someone locate it for me? Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

[Elecraft] switch to another microphone using a macro?

2010-01-08 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
I have an Icom SM-8 microphone attached to my K3's front panel and a Heil Pro Headset with HC 4 element plugged into the rear panel. Depending on working conditions and my mood I sometimes prefer one or the other microphone. The procedure requires to change Bias and sensitivity in the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 New DSP Replacing

2010-01-08 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com wrote: I got my new DSP-C board. Somewhere I saw a step by step on how how to replace it. Can someone locate it for me? I think someone sent steps in an email recently, but you should be able to follow the steps in the KDVR3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 not communicating with PC

2010-01-08 Thread Roger Dallimore
Many thanks for all suggestions privately and to this list. I can confirm that; Ports have been checked with K3 utility Checked correct port in device manager on PC Did not stop after upgrading software I am using KUSB with latest drivers since arrival of K3 #191 K3 is set at 38400 baud I'm

[Elecraft] K144XV receive noise figure spec: clarification

2010-01-08 Thread Wayne Burdick
The K144XV module's specifications include an input noise figure of about 1 dB. This figure should be used when comparing the K144XV to external 2-meter transverters such as the Elecraft XV144 (which is about the same). This is the traditional way transverters are specified. When the K144XV

Re: [Elecraft] K3 not communicating with PC

2010-01-08 Thread David Gilbert
That would be almost at the bottom of any list of potential problems I would suspect. The only gradual degradation mode I can think of for any low power transistor, plastic encapsulated or otherwise, built in the last 30 years by any reputable manufacturer occurs when the base-emitter

[Elecraft] K3 K3DSPUPG Photos

2010-01-08 Thread Steve Ellington
Here are some photos of the new Rev. D DSP board. http://n4lq.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=7872520 Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 not communicating with PC

2010-01-08 Thread Lyle Johnson
What specifically were the details of the supposed issue with older K3's? Does the RS-232 line in the K3 reverse bias the emitter junction (exceed BVebo) of that transistor? No. The KIO3 uses a twin-tee oscillator to generate to required negative voltage. This is to eliminate the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 not communicating with PC

2010-01-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Roger, I do not believe the transistors on the IO board should be very high on the suspect list. It is rare to find a component failure unless it has been subjected to some unusual stress - component degradation in 3 years or less is highly unlikely, 20 to 40 years, maybe, but not 3. May I

Re: [Elecraft] switch to another microphone using a macro?

2010-01-08 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Hello, Werner! I would recommend a pair of macros, one to select the front panel microphone and another to select the rear panel microphone. Each macro might need to toggle the high/low sensitivity settings and the bias. These aren't going to be idempotent macros. I don't have an SM-8, but I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 not communicating with PC

2010-01-08 Thread David Fleming
I agree with Don.. I wouldn't waste the time checking that transistor. It would be an exercise in futility. My bet is on the KUSB. David, W4SMT --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Roger, I do not believe the transistors on the IO board should be very high on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD

2010-01-08 Thread Richard Ferch
Jim, Your description sounds very much like what would be expected to happen if the software thought the radio was in upper sideband but the radio was actually in lower sideband. You didn't mention which of the K3's four data sub-modes you were using. Two of them are USB and two are LSB. If

Re: [Elecraft] switch to another microphone using a macro?

2010-01-08 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
hi Dick, thank you very much for your detailed description. It works like a charm, the only thing I had to change was SWT12, which can be omitted, because the K3 remembers the BIAS setting for the rear and front panel microphone. It might be a wish for future firmware versions to make the

Re: [Elecraft] Prop wash

2010-01-08 Thread Dale Putnam
Had a few that got sent out to empty the grid leak pan, from under the console tv set too. --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM

[Elecraft] RX Test (long)

2010-01-08 Thread Al Lorona
Hi, Everybody, What great comments I got from you in private e-mail messages. It's highly interesting getting your perspectives on receivers and listening. Due to day job and family I can't respond to every observation and objection but in particular Doug KR2Q-- who has some of the best ears 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 not communicating with PC

2010-01-08 Thread Mike
I agree also. Try a different device on the cable, like a digital camera, or an iPOD, or a GPS, or.. 73, Mike NF4L Don Wilhelm wrote: Roger, I do not believe the transistors on the IO board should be very high on the suspect list. It is rare to find a component failure unless it has

Re: [Elecraft] RX Test (long)

2010-01-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Al, From the tests I have done, I discovered that the K3 has a flat passband and very sharp filter skirts - in fact, very close to the ideal filter sought by many in past years. Other receivers tested (K2, Yaesu FT-900, FT-817) showed that their passband was not flat, but tapered smoothly

Re: [Elecraft] RX Test (long)

2010-01-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
I might add - perception is 99% of reality. I write of theoretical terms, but how the human ear/brain combination perceives things of this nature is indeed a subject for reflection and discussion. I expect that there will be many on both 'sides of the fence'. 73, Don W3FPR Al, From the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 not communicating with PC

2010-01-08 Thread Wes Stewart
I agree that the transistor is likely not an issue.  However, Lyle did write: About a year ago we changed the transistor used in this oscillator to a higher-gain device because a small number of KIO3 modules had marginal negative voltage. Unless I'm mistaken, it seems to me that holding the K3

Re: [Elecraft] RX Test (long)

2010-01-08 Thread Joe Planisky
I've also considered that theory. It would be interesting (and easy with an external audio mixer) to add a little pink noise to the audio output to see if that mellows the sound a bit. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Jan 8, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: So my supposition is that we are not

Re: [Elecraft] K3 not communicating with PC

2010-01-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wes, No-one is holding the K3 blameless, but in the interest of complete troubleshooting, it is quite reasonable (to me) to check the easy things first if for no other reason than to eliminate them from the suspect list. It is often that the things that are most frequently overlooked are the

Re: [Elecraft] RX Test (long)

2010-01-08 Thread David Gilbert
Why would you not want to look at the noise footprints with a spectrum analyzer? Your ear may tell you that there is something there that you don't like, but the spectrum analyzer will tell you what it is. If you are making audio files, send me a copy and I'll take a look at them for you

Re: [Elecraft] switch to another microphone using a macro ?

2010-01-08 Thread Jim McDonald
I also have an HC-4 plugged into the rear panel and another microphone, currently a PR781, plugged into the front panel. I have working macros to switch from FP to RP and back again. I am looking for the macro commands to set the equalizer for the PR781 when I switch to the front panel jack and

Re: [Elecraft] RX Test (long)

2010-01-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The K3 is very much quieter out of the passband than other receivers (the K2 is close) - the response is down at least 60 dB as opposed to the out of passband 'garbage' in other receivers only about 30 dB down. Here is the genesis of the complaint that the K3 is more fatiguing than

Re: [Elecraft] K3 New DSP Replacing

2010-01-08 Thread N1JM
You mean they don't send you instructions on replacing it? John N1JM Steve Ellington wrote: I got my new DSP-C board. Somewhere I saw a step by step on how how to replace it. Can someone locate it for me? Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD

2010-01-08 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Thanks guys, yes, I had been messing with the data modes and left it in AFSK, back to Data A and it is all well again. And thanks for the explanation of which way the Data modes are. Nice to know. 73, Jim - Original Message - From: Richard Ferch ve3...@storm.ca To:

Re: [Elecraft] RX Test (long)

2010-01-08 Thread Al Lorona
So what you are saying is the K3 is too quiet for its own good, and that's what makes it so noisy! - Original Message From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com To: d...@w3fpr.com; Al Lorona alor...@sbcglobal.net Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010