Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
For a slightly different answer, take a look at my website www.w3fpr.com article on Antennas, Transmission Lines, and Tuners. You can also find that same article preserved at https://www.qsl.net/w3fpr/ant_article.htm. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/9/2019 8:56 PM, Don Sanders wrote: Since no one has

Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread W2xj
I agree except that even at 500KW a 2:1 or greater is the norm with open wire line. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 9, 2019, at 19:10, Fred Jensen wrote: > > Well, the reflected power is created by a "virtual transmitter" at the > feedpoint of the antenna and heads down the coax which has a

Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Fred Jensen
Well, the reflected power is created by a "virtual transmitter" at the feedpoint of the antenna and heads down the coax which has a surge impedance of Z0 ohms.  It meets the SO-239 at the TX and sees an impedance of Z1, the impedance presented by the PA and output filters.  If Z1=Z0, the power

Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Don Sanders
Since no one has answered your question. I will venture a supposition that many know but few will speak out. And some still remember their CB days and the erroneous advertising saying the power is lost. Reflected Power flows back down the feed line and is subjected to the normal feed line loss. It

[Elecraft] KPA500 alarm

2019-04-09 Thread Steve Forst via Elecraft
Thanks to Andy and Jack for replies on my question about the alarm on the KPA500. I have a couple of ways to go with this now, and am grateful for the help. 73, Steve KW3A __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Roy Koeppe
"...Let's allow the reflected power to increase all the way to 10 watts! At that point, your SWR would be about 2 to 1. Sounds pretty bad, but surely if you were stranded in the desert and had to use your KX3 and a wire to get help, you'd be happy to have a match this good...(etc.)" From

Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Fred Jensen
Why does everyone seem to think all the secret, hollow mountains are in Nevada?  I know of one in Colorado and another in Virginia.  Umm ... maybe that's in West Virginia, not sure now.  [:-)) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County I chose these scenarios deviously, to

Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Roger D Johnson
For an interesting discussion..."What happens to the power that's reflected?" On 4/9/2019 3:42 PM, Al Lorona wrote: There's always a lot of discussion about measuring SWR, low SWR values, SWR lights not lighting up, etc. Here's something that might give you a better 'feel' for SWR. Imagine

Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Ron Genovesi
Oh My God! A voice of reason! And from here of all places! How absolutely unexpected! Thank you sir. > On Apr 9, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Al Lorona wrote: > > There's always a lot of discussion about measuring SWR, low SWR values, SWR > lights not lighting up, etc. Here's something that might

Re: [Elecraft] D13 voltage test high?

2019-04-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
What is the value of R4? It should be 100k. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/9/2019 4:54 PM, TI2/NA7U wrote: Manual says D13 (banded end) should show between 90-150V, mine measures 178V ... says U4 pin 8 should be between -5 to -25 V, mine measures -30V Still going through the receiver tests, up to the

[Elecraft] D13 voltage test high?

2019-04-09 Thread TI2/NA7U
Manual says D13 (banded end) should show between 90-150V, mine measures 178V ... says U4 pin 8 should be between -5 to -25 V, mine measures -30V Still going through the receiver tests, up to the dual-supply tests and all seems well, so should I be concerned about those readings? 73, TI2/NA7U

Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Thank you Al Lorona! 73 Bob, K4TAX On 4/9/2019 2:42 PM, Al Lorona wrote: There's always a lot of discussion about measuring SWR, low SWR values, SWR lights not lighting up, etc. Here's something that might give you a better 'feel' for SWR. Imagine that you measure your forward power at 100

Re: [Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
My friend Al has described some interesting things about SWR measurement here. But not all power/swr meters behave this way. In fact the Elecraft W2 meter is in this class. The designer added an ingenious little circuit to the diodes to bias them into their linear region. What the smeans is

Re: [Elecraft] My "MFJ Posting"

2019-04-09 Thread Joan via Elecraft
Thank you, Jim N4ST, for expressing something which I had become afraid to (having been stung by wasps too many times) 73, Joan KX2CW Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet. Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh. > On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:41, Jim - N4ST wrote: > > Ken, > > The Internet has

Re: [Elecraft] new KPA1500 Manual

2019-04-09 Thread Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
Fred: If you take a manual on a thumb drive, Staples can print it and spiral-bound it. Tom W4KX Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2019, at 2:44 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > Yes, the USAF Technical Orders for a system could fill a bookcase if printed, > and they were printed then. I don't

[Elecraft] Measuring SWR (Long)

2019-04-09 Thread Al Lorona
There's always a lot of discussion about measuring SWR, low SWR values, SWR lights not lighting up, etc. Here's something that might give you a better 'feel' for SWR. Imagine that you measure your forward power at 100 W and your reflected power at only 1 W. You'd probably be very happy about

Re: [Elecraft] Technical question on keying of an SDR radio

2019-04-09 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
And  some of today's software applications {HRD}  have provision for MCW.  One must be careful how the interface between the computer and radio is constructed so as not to have anything in the audio path which would contribute to less than a pure sinewave signal.    Actually this is exactly

Re: [Elecraft] new KPA1500 Manual

2019-04-09 Thread Fred Jensen
Yes, the USAF Technical Orders for a system could fill a bookcase if printed, and they were printed then.  I don't remember many of the volumes but the -1 was "How to fly the airplane" [or operate the radio], -6 was the Illustrated Parts Breakdown, I think -5 was the parts list.  There was

Re: [Elecraft] Technical question on keying of an SDR radio

2019-04-09 Thread Fred Jensen
A technique pioneered by Art Collins many years ago in the KWM2 and S-line. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 4/9/2019 3:08 AM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: Oh no! NOW you tell me that all these years that I have believed that I have been operating CW, it's really SSB!

[Elecraft] [K3] PS0 enhancement request

2019-04-09 Thread Rick Miller - N1RM
It looks like the PS0 power off command still has the note about leaving the Power On pin on the accessory connector grounded for at least 100ms to ensure that no internal data is corrupted on the processor. I'm wondering how hard it would be for the PS0 command to coordinate that shutdown

Re: [Elecraft] Technical question on keying of an SDR radio

2019-04-09 Thread EricJ
Not to worry, Victor. The really important part of generating and demodulating CW happens in your head. Eric KE6US On 4/9/2019 3:08 AM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: Oh no! NOW you tell me that all these years that I have believed that I have been operating CW, it's really SSB! (Disclaimer

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using a K3 to route antenna signals to external devices...

2019-04-09 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
Doug, Yes, thanks, you're right. I have the preamp set up to be active for the higher bands 12, 10, and 6 m, and in the bypass position otherwise. I use this to connect an old shortwave receiver (not an SDR) to my main antenna, so I guess it doesn't hurt for it with the extra gain. But I'll try

Re: [Elecraft] Request - KXPD2, KXPD1 and KXB3080

2019-04-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, Elecraft has the KXPD2, and at last check also has the KXB3080 kit. So the option that is not available is the KXPD1. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/9/2019 5:15 AM, David Cripps wrote: Hi Although I've been a ham for nearly 30 years, I've been out the hobby for the last 25 of them and am now

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using a K3 to route antenna signals to external devices...

2019-04-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sverre, That answer depends --- If you want to connect the SDR directly to the antenna, put the TEE between the ANT OUT and the preamp. OTOH, if you want to have the preamp in-line for the SDR input, put the TEE between the preamp output and the ANT IN connector. If you chose to use the

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using a K3 to route antenna signals to external devices...

2019-04-09 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
Thanks, Joe. Works nicely and saved me the cost of something like the MFJ-1708B-SDR SDR RF sensing T/R switch! - Sverre, LA3ZA K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications:

[Elecraft] Pushing hard in SSB?

2019-04-09 Thread Andy Durbin
"I've pushed my KPA1500 hard in two SSB contests already this year." I seldom connect a microphone so forgive my ignorance. How is is possible to push an amplifier hard in SSB (phone) without exceeding legal limit peak output by a huge margin? I'd understand "pushing hard" in RTTY or other

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using a K3 to route antenna signals to external devices...

2019-04-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
After the PR6/PR10 to gain the benefit of the PR6/PR10 for the SDR as well as the K3/KRX3 receiver(s). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2019-04-09 6:48 AM, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote: But what if there is a PR6-10 preamp in this path. Where should the splitter/TEE-adapter be in that case? In

Re: [Elecraft] new KPA1500 Manual

2019-04-09 Thread Bill Mader
I agree with your comments on the amplifier's manual Peter. Getting tech data right is a challenge. I spent my last six years in the USAF at a Major Command HQ where I would visit our primary depot twice a year to discuss product improvement. Tech data was a key part of those meetings. Even

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using a K3 to route antenna signals to external devices...

2019-04-09 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
But what if there is a PR6-10 preamp in this path. Where should the splitter/TEE-adapter be in that case? >In brief, it takes a TEE adapter and 2 short pieces of coax. Put the >adapter between the 2 pieces of coax, and then connect one coax to ANT >OUT and the other to ANT IN. -

Re: [Elecraft] Technical question on keying of an SDR radio

2019-04-09 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
Oh no! NOW you tell me that all these years that I have believed that I have been operating CW, it's really SSB! (Disclaimer to avoid the otherwise inevitable explanations that a pure audio tone transmitted via SSB is identical with CW: I know that). 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel

[Elecraft] Request - KXPD2, KXPD1 and KXB3080

2019-04-09 Thread David Cripps
Hi Although I've been a ham for nearly 30 years, I've been out the hobby for the last 25 of them and am now learning Morse again to get into QRP. I have recently bought a KX1 and KX2 and would like to get the paddles for them, so if anybody has a KXPD2 or KXPD1 for sale please let me know

Re: [Elecraft] new KPA1500 Manual

2019-04-09 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/8/2019 10:52 PM, Peter Hall wrote: Having spent time, over many years, piecemeal updating Jeppersen and CASA (the national aviation regulatory authority) pilot documents, I regard it as wasted time I'll never get back. I hope that Elecraft does not go down this path but agree