Do a google on W6AM. Don was a ham's ham with many Rhombic antennas.
Years ago he and W1FH for several years would exchange being on the top
of the DXCC list.
Interesting reading.
73 Bob W7AVK
On 9/13/2019 8:22 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
Hi mike,
Wasn't Rota an FRD-10, not an
Not true. The KFS receive site building and some antennas are still there and
being used for "something". In fact there is a web SDR hooked to the big log
periodic.
73,
Brian, K0DTJ
HMB, CA
>
> KFS -- all gone now, not even buildings are left.
On 9/13/2019 8:15 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
> Its nearly impossible to hide those old Wullenweber arrays, even if they've
> been dismantled for nearly fifty years
The FCC's have all been dismantled.
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>From a Clearing in the Silicon
On 9/13/2019 6:56 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> I think the Half Moon Bay stn was KFS. It's brother site was in the mud
> flats off of the Palo Alto shoreline in the Bay, all gone now. At least
> one of the KFS transmitters is now operating at KPH.
Ah yes, the PW-15, built for Press Wireless in the
On 9/13/2019 6:56 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> There was a small group of hams who either tried, or succeeded, in
> getting permission to put one of the remaining Delano Sterba's on 160
> [and maybe 80]. I'm not sure if they were successful,
As I remember it, it was the Sacramento Ham Club that got
On 9/13/2019 5:47 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> There's another RX station along Rte 1 S of Half Moon Bay, with an
> associated TX station around Palo Alto.
KFS -- all gone now, not even buildings are left.
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
On 9/13/2019 5:45 PM, Jim Campbell wrote:
> We also had Elephant Cages later on. Funny no one has mentioned them.
They (we called them the "Type W") were the mainstay of the FCC's HFDF
system from the 1970s to several years after I retired in the mid-1990s.
Their function was directivity, not
On 9/13/2019 4:18 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
> I visited many rhombic antenna farms many years ago (as far as I know
> they've now all been dismantled).
The Maritime Radio Historical Station KPH (ex-RCA) site in Bolinas, CA
may still have one up, but I'm not certain that it is still in
Or even longer:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UkbdbLQ-ofI/V4CWpqwJ9SI/E-Q/YtV82_PGUqg3j77n0OyOxp0A1LaL1-LowCLcB/s1600/crop-stonehenge-stones-set3.jpg
73, Arliss W7XU
On 9/13/2019 10:15 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
Hi Chuck,
Its nearly impossible to hide those old Wullenweber
It works better than expected! I setup the KX3 on the front deck and worked
some stations with good signal reports earlier this week (SSB). I was running
all 15 watts!
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From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com [KX3]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 9:19 PM
To:
Hi mike,
Wasn't Rota an FRD-10, not an FLR-9?
www.google.com/maps/place/36%C2%B039'24.0%22N+6%C2%B021'54.0%22W/@36.6567863,-6.3663994,682m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
73
Frank
W3LPL
- Original Message -
From: "Michael P. Rioux"
To: "Jim Campbell"
Cc:
Hi Chuck,
Its nearly impossible to hide those old Wullenweber arrays, even if they've
been dismantled for nearly fifty years
www.google.com/maps/search/bondville+rd,+scott,+il/@40.0492598,-88.3816964,440m/data=!3m1!1e3
73
Frank
W3LPL
- Original Message -
From: "charles j jr
A small correction. Delano, Dixon and further east Bethany were not VOA sites.
They were originally private broadcaster’s sites. I can’t remember which was
what but Bethany and Delano were CBS and NBC. Bethany was Crosley. Eventually
VOA took these sites over as commercial broadcasters found
There is one additional drawback.
Last weekend, after having been off the air for just over three months, I went
to the shack to operate in the Nebraska QSO Party -- needing only NE on 10 to
finish the CW 5BWAS. Dead quiet on 10 meters. After an hour of CQ NEQP every
20 seconds, a familiar
Symmetry? The whole show with rhombics is beamwidth and elevation
angle, not really gain, which has been pointed out in much of the
literature. A "perfect" rhombic will have an extremely narrow beamwidth
in the 10 to 15 deg range at HF [and if large enough, at MF as well].
Asymmetry will
Many of the VOA transmitters were 250 KW and ended up in religious SW
broadcast stations.
There was a small group of hams who either tried, or succeeded, in
getting permission to put one of the remaining Delano Sterba's on 160
[and maybe 80]. I'm not sure if they were successful, I do know
I was in the radio direction finding group at the U of IL in the early 60's
which had a Wullenweber site just west of Champaign-Urbana IL 120 antennas in a
circle outside a screen supported by telephone poles. The locals had colorful
ideas of what it was all about. You could listen to WWVH,
I still get a kick out of thinking that I worked INSIDE of the antenna! (Rota’s
FLR-9)
Si vis pacem, para bellum
Mike, W1USN
> On Sep 13, 2019, at 8:45 PM, Jim Campbell wrote:
>
> We also had Elephant Cages later on. Funny no one has mentioned them. If you
> want to see a real monster
Also had an array of rhombics at Bingen, plenty of SP-600's. Used primarily for
reception. Our GRC-26 used a dipole for xmt/rcv DF work. That was 55 to 58. I'd
have loved to have my K3 and 3 el steppIR back then. They didn't get the FLR-9
at Chicksands until after I left in Jun 62. Got my ham
I got my shipping notification today. Prepping for my stint as a ham
volunteer next weekend in the Bike MS “City to the Shore” ride, so it might
be a little while before I get on the air with it. I’m looking forward to
it.
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 20:27 Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi Bryan,
>
>
> >
On 9/13/2019 4:18 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
To compound the design compromises, the r hombic termination
resistor throws away nearly 3 dB of whatever gain it might achieve.
When our senior EE class toured Crosley's Mason, OH VOA site in 1964,
the engineers were quite proud of their
We also had Elephant Cages later on. Funny no one has mentioned them. If
you want to see a real monster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/FLR-9
Also known as a "Wullenweber" or AN/FLR-9.
Jim - W4BQP
On 9/13/2019 8:28 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
Small world. I was in a similar line of work,
Many years ago W1AW used to have a big (6 wavelengths per leg as I
recall) rhombic for 20 meters pointed west. It was mainly used for the
code practice and bulletin transmissions. When the new 90-foot tower
with stacked monoband Yagis was installed we ran some A/B antenna tests
on the air
Hi Bryan,
> On Sep 12, 2019, at 12:25 PM, Bryan Brauer wrote:
>
> I received my new AXE1 yesterday, and today deployed the antenna with the
> AX1, connected directly to my KX2 a la HT. I stretched out the
> counterpoise wire and tied the end to the branch of a bush, suspending it
> about 4
In the late '50s I was stationed at a field station in Northern Germany
that was monitoring transmissions from the 'other side'. We were at a
former WWII German airfield and had an antenna farm comprised of
rhombics. I never bothered to count how many there were but I estimate
that there were
Mike: You will need more than "a few tens of acres" for rhombics, their
beamwidth is so narrow that you will need an array of them. The
transmit site for KOK ["Los Angeles Radio" now SK and demolished] was
probably at least a square mile, likely more. Rhombics for the
point-2-point
Well, I'm not wealthy. But we do have 270 acres of forest-land covered
with nothing but trees. So a rhombic or two sounds really good, which
never occurred to me before. Thanks, Don!
Across the field from my shack, maybe 600', is a row of 90' pine
trees. More trees on either edge of the
I posted the question, "What is the BEST antenna to use with my K???" as a
"tongue-in-cheek" question to see if it would generate some activity, and it
was wildly successful. I posted it at about 12:30pm PDT and it is now almost
5pm PDT. There are over a dozen responses, and at least two
Oh, but I have 2 KX3's and one PX3, a KXPA100. Oh, did I mention a KX2 and all
it's stuff. I am an Elecraft junkie... because I love their stuff, and, all of
it is so well engineered. Their customer service for us with logical issues is
just so superior.
The most important factor on this
Mike: Rhombics can be operated either terminated or unterminated. If
unterminated, they are bi-directional with half the power in each lobe.
If terminated, the resistor absorbs half the power in the reverse lobe.
Either way, half your power goes the "wrong" way, either behind your
desired
Maybe the termination was changed in later years. I was permanently
assigned to K2USA from '63-'65 (not bad duty for a ham). We ran
thousands of phone patches to/from SE Asia on that rhombic and the 20m
monobander @ 90 feet. I used to break into QSOs between two local VKs
chatting via ground
Hi Mike,
Rhombic antennas -- with few exceptions -- were not usually designed
for high gain. They were usually designed as a compromise between
gain and typically one octave of bandwidth (e.g. 14-28 MHz).
To compound the design compromises, the r hombic termination
resistor throws away
The K3S is an incredibly compact and extremely capable rig. It has a handle on
the side too. I don't quite see the rush to sell it if you buy a K4.
Jack BMW Motorcycles
Chuck KE9UW
c-haw...@illinois.edu
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> On Sep 13, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
>
> Oh, maybe I
Oh, maybe I should offer my K3S with ALL the options and the P3 for advance
ordering as well?
73,
Bill
K9YEQ
https://wrj-tech.com/
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On
Behalf Of Bill Johnson
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 5:33 PM
To: Wayne Burdick ;
And I have ordered one with all the goodies, so, Wayne, get on it!! :-) Keep
those elves a truckin'!
72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100, KAT500, W2, etc.
https://wrj-tech.com/
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Can you expand on this, Ken, or if easier, a reference? I'm curious
what tradeoffs are made. I used a rhombic at Ft. Monmouth, NJ before
the Army base was closed in 2011, and used to boom into Europe and
Russia. It was amazing. I also got copies of WWII manuals on rhombic
construction
Rhombic antennas derive their well-known gain by "throwing away" some of
the design's gain. Ditto for the infamous "inverted vee". Use is made of
the lobes from the four wires while disregarding others.
73 !
Ken Kopp - K0PP
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All ...
It might be enlightening to Google the G5RV antenna...
The design by Lou Varney, G5RV first appeared in the RSGB Bulletin
and was designed as a 20M -->ONLY<-- antenna, with a specific combination
of open wire and coax lengths. (I have a copy of the original article.)
As I often say …
Good idea. A fellow ham I worked with once had a rhombic favoring the south
pole many decades ago. He was a significant communications option for an
expedition down there. It was a unique ham radio experience.
Jack BMW Motorcycles
Chuck KE9UW
c-haw...@illinois.edu
Sent from my iPad
> On Sep
A 50 ohm dummy load. There's never any noise, never any QRM, the
frequency is always clear, and always a 1:1 SWR. Of course getting a
DXCC is much more of a challenge.
73
Bob, K4TAX
On 9/13/2019 2:25 PM, rv6amark via Elecraft wrote:
Re: "September has been fairly quiet. Only around
Are we still looking for a Nov/Dec shipping date?
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...nr4c. bill
> On Sep 13, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Grant Youngman wrote:
>
> In the meantime, the rest of us are too busy daydreaming about being able to
> go K4ing … :-)
>
> Grant NQ5T
> KX3 (8342)/KXPA100
>
>> Speaking
David,
Put up a Rhombic favoring the direction of your most wanted DX.
It can be used as a multi-band antenna with lots of gain.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 9/13/2019 4:02 PM, David Haines wrote:
Well, the best antenna for me so far is the only one I have, a 51' G5RV
Junior dipole 30' above ground fed
Good evening,
1.
when I turned on the K3S tonight I noticed that the current display was
jumping between 1,4 and 2,7 Amperes on idle. Never saw the rig doing it
before. The actual current consumption didn´t change but the readout of the
K3S only. That approx. +1,3 A also was noticed on transmit.
On 9/13/2019 1:02 PM, David Haines wrote:
but for now, any antenna thoughts?
1. Buy and study the ARRL Antenna Book.
2. Study the antenna tutorials and applications notes on my website.
k9yc.com/publish.htm
3. Unless you're in the middle of nowhere with no neighbors to create RF
noise,
Good job poking the sleeping bear. ;)
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 1:46 PM Szabó István wrote:
> During last week I got very few e-mails. Is it low activity or e-mails
> lost somewhere?
>
> 73, István ha4zd
>
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Well, the best antenna for me so far is the only one I have, a 51' G5RV
Junior dipole 30' above ground fed with ladder line into my KX-3 with
KXP100. (I also have a Buddipole for remote operation.)
Given that you can never have enough antennas, what should I add? My
situation is perfect,
Dazzle Camo or International Orange
73 Eric WD6DBM
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The one that will almost fit on your available space.
On 9/13/2019 12:25 PM, rv6amark via Elecraft wrote:
Re: "September has been fairly quiet. Only around 160 posts..." I can
fix that: What is the BEST antenna to use with my K??? Sorry, just couldn't resist;-)
Mark, KE6BB
In the meantime, the rest of us are too busy daydreaming about being able to go
K4ing … :-)
Grant NQ5T
KX3 (8342)/KXPA100
> Speaking strictly for all of us, the Elecraft Elves are so busy K4ing that
> some aren't posting as often as usual.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> What is the BEST antenna to use with my K???
Rhombic or Sterba curtain. Unless you're doing pedestrian mobile, in which
case...AX1 :)
> September has been fairly quiet
Speaking strictly for all of us, the Elecraft Elves are so busy K4ing that some
aren't posting as often as usual.
In my case the best, or at least the most desirable, is always the one I
don't have.
Dave AB7E
On 9/13/2019 12:25 PM, rv6amark via Elecraft wrote:
Re: "September has been fairly quiet. Only around 160 posts..." I can
fix that: What is the BEST antenna to use with my K???
Re: "September has been fairly quiet. Only around 160 posts..." I can
fix that: What is the BEST antenna to use with my K??? Sorry, just couldn't
resist ;-) Mark, KE6BB
Original message From: Grant Youngman
Date: 9/13/19 10:58 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Szabó István
September has been fairly quiet. Only around 160 posts for the (nearly) first
half of the month.
Grant NQ5T
KX3 (8342)/KXPA100
> On Sep 13, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Szabó István wrote:
>
> During last week I got very few e-mails. Is it low activity or e-mails lost
> somewhere?
>
> 73, István
During last week I got very few e-mails. Is it low activity or e-mails
lost somewhere?
73, István ha4zd
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Elecraft RRK0CBL cable for the K30 to the RRC 1258 $30.
Howard AE3T
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