Interesting discussion of the RPN calculators!
I've been a user of RPN calculators for fifty years now. I started my EE
career in 1966 still using slide rules.
My first calculator was the HP-25C, then went to the HP-67 and several
others after that. My favorite is the HP-28S, which is
In terms of modernizing the Elecraft W2, I'm surprised no one so far has
mentioned the excellent digital display unit offered by KV5J. The combo
works great.
73,
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-- don't know how I passed over this setting. It's tips like this
that make this Elecraft Reflector worthwhile. Thanks, Peter!
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K3/P3, KX1, KX2
On March 6, 2019 Peter Dougherty wrote:
One thing I would add here is the L-Mix-R setting in the config menu, which
controls
Received s/n 0007 recently. I like it!
See: https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/14127
73 & Happy New Year to Elecrafters,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
KX1, KX2, K3, P3
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Commander v. 13.8.1, and WSJT-x v. 2.0.0 .
I'd appreciate any hints about what I may be doing wrong.
Thanks & 73,
Chuck Guenther
K3 s/n 1061 (upgraded to at least an S-)
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I used a HA-1 keyer during the early 1960's. However, it was not the
first successful commercial electronic keyer!
It was my third keyer. My first keyer was the "Mon Key," which did not
have self-completing code elements, and my second was a Eldico, which
was self-completing. Both these
the KX2 setup in time.
Any pointers would be appreciated!
73 Chuck Guenther, NI0C
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Beta firmware v. 2.75 works very nicely, Wayne. Thanks for this!
My choices for Pfn are:
PF1 = SUB on/off
PF2 = RF Gain
PF3 = AGC THR
PF4 = Amp Hrs
73, Chuck Guenther NI0C
Quote from Monday, April 3:
"Hi all,
The latest KX2 field-test firmware provides four programmable functions,
nd right ears. I am thinking
I might want one set of AGC parameters for optimum reception of a weak
DX station, and another set of parameters setup to listen to the howling
hordes in the pileup. Surely others have done this (if it is indeed
possible). How does this work out in practice?
Right now, my vintage K3 is back at Elecraft for major upgrades,
including a second receiver. I'm enjoying operating the KX2 in the
meantime. In fact, it was the dual watch feature of the KX2 that
clearly demonstrated to me the benefits of a second receiver in working
the DX pileups.
On
I gave up on full QSK several years ago when I started using an active
receive antenna and a DXE phase controller. Could not put all that
stuff inside the keying loop of my Ten Tec Centurion. After the second
failure of the Centurion QSK board and associated parts, I switched to a
simple and
Thanks, Lyle, (and others).
I guess what I really want (and can currently afford) is an upgraded K3,
not a new K3S. I have an earlier s/n K3 (#1061), and have done some of
the mods, but not all of them. For example, I have the new synthesizer,
but not the upgraded DSP board, or even the
K3) plus my old K3 stripped of the options. Is that
right, or do I receive only one radio back called a K3S? Where is the
cost saving or advantage in choosing this service?
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
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could copy him much better with preamp on, and RF gain at -10 dB,
attenuator still off..
BTW, I really like the AGC on the KX2, and often find myself trying to
adjust my K3 so it sounds as good as the KX2.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
Quote from N6KR:
"First thing to check is to make
where I
wanted it, at 3.5:1.
73,
Chuck NI0C
On 1/5/2017 10:06 PM, Michael Chowning wrote:
Chuck,
Do you realize you are using two different bracket characters?
Mike, N8TTR
Sorry, I forgot my callsign in the earlier reply.
On Jan 5, 2017, at 10:14 PM, Chuck Guenther <charl
I doing wrong? This is very confusing.
TNX & 73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
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This
I've only had KX2 serial No. 857 for about ten days. It was purchased as
a replacement for my KX1, to be used primarily for portable operations
while on vacation. However, I'm finding it so much fun to operate it at
home, it has displaced my K2-10 on my operating desk. (In case anyone
is
I've been using APF in my K3 since it was in Beta testing. I love it!
I've found it necessary to use both the shift and Fine tuning-- these
are not optional for effective use of APF. I've been using macros to
engage and dis-engage the APF.
One reason I keep combing through the Elecraft
Thanks to everyone who replied to my earlier message, including one very
generous fellow who offered to loan me his KX1 for my January trip. I
have purchased a fully loaded KX1 that is now on its way to me. In a few
days, I'll try to post info on my QRZ.com page concerning operating from
snowy
range case.
Tnx & 73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
St. Louis, MO
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contact me off-list with details, price, and shipping info.
Thanks & 73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
St. Louis, MO
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This is an interesting discussion.
Before I purchased my K3 in 2008, I had become addicted to narrow
selectivity with my previous rigs, and was routinely tuning the bands
with cascaded 250 Hz filters. Since I'm nearly 100 pct. CW, I purchased
a range of crystal roofing filters to try out in
No need to stop at 440; I've been using 300-330 on my K3 for a few years
now. I'm stuck at 400 on my K2.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
KX1; K2; K3
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, though, tuning the bands for even a few minutes without
the P3. I hadn't realized how much I have grown to depend on it!
73 thanks again.
Chuck Guenther NI0C
N1AL wrote:
It sounds like a configuration parameter got corrupted somehow in
non-volatile memory. Try doing a Parameter Initialization
-booted the computer, with no improvement.
TNX for any help on this,
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
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K3 users may wish to try my Macro's for using APF (CW Audio Peak Filter):
APF ON Turns on APF, puts VFO in Fine tune mode (1 Hz resolution):
IS ;SWH29;RT1;SWT53;RT0;RT1;SWT49;LK0;
APF DN Turns on APF, puts VFO in Fine, turns on RIT and tunes down 20
Hz:
IS
the MACRO's to be extremely
useful for setting up Split
frequencies and for using the CW APF. Like Jim, I seldom find a need to enter
the K3 menu system.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
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I'd like to add my applause and thanks to Elecraft for this latest
firmware upgrade.
In addition to the new firmware, I finally got around to installing my
700 Hz CW roofing filter.
The combination of extra wide filtering and higher AGC thresholds is
great for combing
through the pileups with
I wrote a review of the N6BT Bravo 7K antenna for eHam about a year ago.
After using it for a year on all bands (40 thru 10 meters), I remain very
pleased with it. Band changing can be accomplished in just a few minutes.
It seems to perform as well as my Force 12 Sigma 40XK, and is easier to
work
discovered a better way to attach this filter? I'm thinking
of using a very small quantity of RTV sealant, judiciously applied
around the edges of the filter with a toothpick. Any thoughts?
Thanks 73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
KX1 s/n 2512
did. The results look very good.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
KX1 s/n 2512
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out.
(It didn't).
I also worried about damaging the nylon screw during soldering, so I
used a metal one
just during soldering. (My kit contained two nylon screws, and I used a
magnet to separate
the metal ones).
73,
Chuck Guenther
KX1 s/n 2512
Barry, K8QI, wrote:
Figure 24 shows
Chuck, it doesn't say both washers in my manual. Here's the exact quote:
*The split washer under the standoff is important to reach the proper
height
so Q6 will come in contact with the cover.*
The lockwasher under the board has nothing to do with the height of Q6's
collector.
73,
Chuck
holder. This preserved my sanity during these
rather awkward
construction steps. Just make sure the tape does not cross the molded
ridges
at the bottom of the holder.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
Barry, K8QI, wrote:
I'm presently building KX1 # 2520 currently in phase 2.Appreciate the
heads up
myself with
it before adding the KXB3080 module.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
KX1 s/n 2512, K2 s/n 5853, K3 s/n 1061
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Chuck Guenther NI0C
K2-10, K3, P3
N6FB wrote:
It is tough to get old and find most of your electronics know-how is out
of date- so much so that creating a macro from scratch seems beyond my ken.
APF is a very useful function, and I use it along with RIT as the fine
tuning mechanism. How
panadaptor
frequency displays) for
indicating the frequency response characteristics of high-Q antennas.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
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Band this season as
captured on my P3. The March issue will be available to subscribers
during late February.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
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Thanks, Jim. In addition to a wide span (I use 128 KHz), a low value of
scale (30-40 dB) and the maximum value of averaging time also
improve the display of the antenna characteristics.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
On 2/2/2011 3:10 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
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control. Other pre-requisites for
success with APF
are using FINE tune (1 Hz frequency resolution) and also shifting the
signal frequency
(using RIT and APF shift) ) slightly off the ringing frequency.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K3 s/n 1061
Barry, N1EU wrote:
Forget it - full stop!
I just ran
and offset the RIT by
20 Hz, then
I tweak the APF shift and/or the RIT manually to peak the received signal.
The purpose of the offset is to shift the signal frequency away from the
ringing
frequency. This works best for me at pitch settings near the low end of
the K3's
range.
73,
Chuck Guenther
as the
APF feature of the K3.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K2, K3/P3
Gary, K9GS, wrote:
I primarily spend my time contesting, DX contests in particular, and
most of my time on 80 and 40M. 99% of the time I operate CW. So, in
particular, low band CW performance is important to me. ...
I'm
I too believe the jury is still out concerning the long-term wear and tear
on the Elecraft encoders caused by the use of extra heavy knobs.
The original knobs spin just fine on my K3; besides I'm doing more
QSY's these days from the P3.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K2, K3
Don Wilhem, W3FPR, wrote
that would enhance this would be a way to display time
and date at least on the frozen P3 display. I take care of this manually
by putting callsign, date, and time information in the .jpg filename in
Windows My Pictures folder.
Is this something that is planned for the future?
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
Pete,
I don't think this is curmudgeonly at all. I try to sign off with 73 on
internet forum
postings (such as on eHam), as well on e-mail lists like this one.
I figure if I can't say 73, meaning, of course best regards, then
perhaps I
shouldn't send it.Keeps me in check!
73,
Chuck
function of a memory
M1-M4 so as to avoid the chance of getting the wrong one in the heat of a DX
pileup.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K2, K3, P3
Rich Dettinger, K7MW, wrote:
I think you can use PF1 or 2 to select the APF. This will still
require a hold, and an inadvertent tap will interfere
Many thanks to Bill, W4ZV, for providing the LVL CAL instructions
in his Nov. 11 reflector message. I did the calibration using an XG-2
both before and after doing the IF output mod in my older K3.
Before the mod, my transfer gain was -21 dB, which I think should
have been -18 dB because I have
transmitting
and receiving antennas, as I can see the noise level drop off above and
below resonance.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K3 s/n 1061 P3 s/n 444
Dave, N4QS wrote:
Rich,
I basically agree with you about adding the KRX3 first, but it would be
interesting to see how the P3 works with only one RX
My new P3 arrived yesterday, and I like it a lot!
It's very easy and intuitive to operate. As someone who spent part of
his career
doing spectrum analysis (of sound and vibration), I don't know why I
waited so
long to acquire this fine accessory for my K3.
I still need to do the IF output
The new APF continues to please this CW operator.
Like others, I find it works better in some situations than others.
But I would not have been able to copy and work RI1FJ
(Franz Josef Land) on 160m the morning of November 8
without this new tool.
A few suggestions for using it:
1. Make sure the
SWH29;SWT49;RU;RU;RT0;IS ;
I'm open to suggestions for improvement.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K3 s/n 1061
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73,
Chuck Guenther
K3 s/n 1061
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Please
Ron, if you have an amplifier in line, check the amplifier relay contacts.
I had to clean the relay contacts in my AL-80B about once per year.
The symptoms were just as you described.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
Ron, W3ZV wrote:
K3 started to exhibit intermittent loss
of gain after
XFIL's. That's probably because I rarely use anything wider than
350 or 400 Hz DSP selectivity.
This is a real worthwhile improvement for CW operators!
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K2-10 s/n 5853
K3-100 s/n 1061
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Barry,
I find myself experimenting frequently with the AGC threshold and slope
settings.
Don't forget that these menu items can be assigned to the PF or M keys
so they can be easily
accessed and changed. Since I don't use the K3 internal keyer (I use an
external microHam
CW keyer), I use
Speaking of bail height, here's a suggestion for use of the generous
space beneath the K2 transceiver. My N3ZN ZN-9B paddles nestle
perfectly into the space.created by the standard bail. Very nice!
73,
Chuck NI0C
K2-10 s/n 5853; K3 s/n 1061
Ken Kopp wrote:
I've 'stewed' about the issue most
of the night.
Me too, Ken. Don helped me a lot when I was assembling my KX1 and K2.
The impatient K2 builder says he doesn't care at all about feelings; yet he
also claims
to have an EET degree. I taught for many years in a community
Darn... my secret got out! :)
73 de Chuck NI0C
K2, K3
CX7TT wrote:
I worked many guys who were S3 abv and below the run freq while the
zero beat guys to my xmit freq were S9 plus.
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Did it ever occur to you that the folks who kept the bands hopping for
48 hours might enjoy a rest? Maybe spend some time with their families,
watch the Winter Olympics on TV, go for a walk, etc.?
Even though I was only a casual participant in the contest on a single band,
I enjoyed the respite.
Eric,
I've used Pelican cases to protect my cameras while X-C skiing,
have taken a number of falls, with no damage to the cameras (or me!).
You can check the archives on appropriate sizes for the KX1. I never
took mine skiing , but I did find an appropriate size for it that would
fit into
a
Elecrafters who have participated in the ECN's (nets) and EQP's
(Elecraft QSO Parties)
will recall Pete Hoover, W6ZH as a frequent participant.
I just learned from W3UR's Daily DX service that Pete passed away on
Feb. 4.
I didn't know Pete very well, but we did have some correspondence, and
to be made?
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
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K3-100 s/n 1061
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I've been pleasantly surprised at how well NR works even with
very narrow CW bandwidths. I routinely use a 250 Hz roofing filter
followed by 250, 200, or 150 Hz DSP filters for Top Band. The NR
set around F1-2 or F1-3 quite often makes a difference for me.
It wasn't always this way.
Thanks to
Stan, you asked a good question-- one I asked about some time ago.
When I worked in the aerospace industry, I designed and used analog
and digital filters for measurement applications. Most textbook design
formulas and procedures are based on 3 dB bandwidths, although sometimes
our measurement
I built the K2-10 (s/n 5853) with lots of accessories for QRP CW.
Assembling the K3-100 was a piece of cake, compared to the K2.
Just a couple of days ago, I finished hooking the two together for
dual-receive
(I haven't yet purchased a KRX3). This application was inspired by
G4AON's reflector
I agree with Jack's remark below. I especially appreciate Bill Tippett
(W4ZV) sharing his operating tips with the group, and have printed his
recent messages (as well as the referenced info from K3NA) and
enclosed them in my K3 operating manual for future reference.
73,
Chuck NI0C
K2-10 s/n
[With regard to the need for instrumentation]
W3FPR wrote:
So, the question becomes - What degree of accuracy in power output
and S-meter reading do you wish to achieve? The default settings will be
very close, but with the added instruments, one can achieve a higher degree
of confidence in those
Merv, KH7C wrote:
[the K3] sure makes for nice DXing on topband.
The ARRL 160 contest brought out a lot of strong stations,
some of whom weren't hearing very well. There were cluster spots
coming in from DX that couldn't get the attention of some of the
stateside CQ'ers. I spotted one W8 who
Doug, KR2Q wrote:
I have a RS wall wart rated at 14 watts (12v, 500ma).
Is there any reason why I should NOT use this as the PS?
Hmm... 12V at 500 mA is only 6 watts-- perhaps the 14 watts
refers to the power drawn by the wall wart while supplying rated current.
If that's the case, then I
Don Wilhelm, W3FPR, wrote:
It is easier for me to just do the steps manually than to remember
what macros I put into the K3. 4 is about the limit that are managable
IMHO, and maybe that can be expanded to 8 for some things -
this is a case of 'less is more' for me. I just don' like magic
Wayne, N6KR, wrote:
: this feature is perfect for automating multiple switch presses on
your K3.
I'm really happy with my simple CWSPLT and UNSPLT macros that I've
assigned to PF1 and PF2. Haven't had so much fun programming since
the days when I fully mastered programming my HP-67 calculator.
and shift.
It only
takes a click of the mouse to change between 10 Hz and 50 Hz increments.
(DXLab is free!)
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K3 s/n 1061
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Wayne, N6KR, wrote:
I'd like to thank everyone who's been testing the K3's new macro feature.
It appears to be working as intended, allowing operators to customize
SPLIT and other operations as needed.
Use of these MACRO's for setting up K3's in split mode will virtually
eliminate mistakes
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
If you're inclined to use a rig control program, DXLab's
Commander now has very nice slider controls for adjusting the
K3's bandwidth and shift. It only takes a click of the mouse
to change between 10 Hz and 50 Hz increments. (DXLab is free!)
The 10 Hz/50 Hz
Dick, PA3CW, asked:
It would be nice to 'undo' the SPLIT+2 function by a second
key press...is that possible in the MACRO language?
Good idea for a MACRO, Dick.
Try this MACRO I call UNSPLT: SWT13;SWT13;SWH13;RT0;XT0;
73,
Chuck NI0C
K3 s/n 1061
Greg - AB7R wrote:
Or just a HOLD of the SPLIT button to turn it off???
Of course that will work, Greg; however the UNSPLT macro has the
advantage of equalizing VFO A and B frequencies and bandwidths and
undoing the split with a single keystroke.
73,
Chuck NI0C
K3 s/n 1061
Richard, HB9ANM, wrote:
Right, Chuck - or even simpler: FR0;
Thank you. Actually FR0 is much better for an UNSPLT macro.
The problem with using SWH13 is that it would actually put the
K3 in split mode if it wasn't already there. So here's a better
UNSPLT macro that will undo any splits between
row 1, column 3; therefore
SWT11 refers to a tap on switch row 1, column 1 (A/B).
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K3 s/n 1061
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I sure like the NR performance on CW even with very narrow filtering.
The new NR has enabled me to copy stations that had been obliterated
by noise at my rather noisy inner suburban QTH.
73,
Chuck Guenther NI0C
K2 s/n 5853
K3 s/n 1061
) of the
roofing filter I used during the gain cal? Should I repeat the RF gain cal?
Third question:
What exactly is calibrated during an RF gain cal?
I understand in a general sense that the overall RF/IF system gain is
determined by many things, including scaling constants in the DSP.
Thanks 73,
Chuck
Wayne,
Thanks for the very prompt and very thorough answers to all of my question!
73,
Chuck NI0C
Wayne Burdick wrote:
Chuck Guenther wrote:
Is there any problem using the Rx input jack for the RF gain cal
No. Works equally well.
Suppose that I do an RF gain cal, then change
. The casual operators will have great success
with only the 2.7 kHz filter, but a contester will want a full
complement of roofing filters to fight those 'tough times'.
73,
Don W3FPR
Chuck Guenther wrote:
I simply meant that if folks were looking for a more or less
continuously variable
I simply meant that if folks were looking for a more or less
continuously variable selectivity in the K3, then the 10 Hz increment
DSP filters would provide that, for all practical purposes.
73,
Chuck NI0C
Ed K1EP wrote:
At 8/5/2009 07:51 PM, Chuck Guenther wrote:
With the upoming 10 Hz
J.R. Groeger wrote:
I seem to remember talk some time ago about a variable bandwidth
crystal filter becoming available for the K3 at some stage. Anyone know
the status of its development?
With the upoming 10 Hz resolution DSP upgrade (Firmware 3.23 being
talked about), I certainly wouldn't
Jeff,
For a 50 ft. run, if your existing coax is in good shape and fairly new, I
wouldn't bother replacing it now, at least for HF work. When it does need
replacing, the Davis Buryflex is mighty good stuff. I recently replaced a 10
year old 50 ft. section of RG-213 with Buryflex, as some of
Since the K2 filter ultimate rejection is apparently sensitive to the lead
length of the ground leads on the filter crystals (Elecraft instructions
require the crystals be grounded near the bottom of the cans), it is not
surprising that experiments with add-on filters resulted in compromised
I just submitted my score summary to the scorekeeper. Only nine QSO's this
year: four on 40m and five on 20m. Heard no EQP activity on 80m. Lots of
competition from the OK QSO Party-- those guys are loud here in Missouri on 80
and 40m!
W1SOC had an oustanding presence, and he was the only
I doubt that it would be as effective as the noise reduction feature of the
KDSP2 module.
73,
Chuck NI0C
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Is anyone else having trouble downloading this latest Builder's alert? I'm not
getting it from the website, although I can download the Soldering Tutorial
just below it. I tried copying and pasting the .pdf address from the subject
original message to no avail.
I'd really like to see this,
Accurate Adjustment of K2 BFO frequencies for CW
Although this subject is well covered already with appropriate links to
procedures provided on the Elecraft website, I thought I would share my own
procedure for adjusting the BFO frequencies. This procedure does not require
the use of a
Dave Wilburn wrote:
Noise blanker-If I am operating from home, is this needed? I'm kinda on the
fence with this one. My only experience with NB are on the commercial rigs.
I understand this one is better, but I have never really seen any impact
from using any of them. The archives seem to prove
I completed my KIO2 assembly, and it does passes the smoke test, and DC
voltages at J1 measure okay, but does not communicate. It draws roughly 20 mA
when powered up from the K2. As the serial port in my laptop is inoperative
(has been for a long time), I've tested the KIO2 using a Belkin
I'm now working on the KIO2 kit for my K2. I've used both the K1EL WinKey and
a microHam micro Keyer with other rigs and like these products very much.
Since my K2 is CW only (and will stay that way), I'm thinking of getting the
microHam CW keyer for use with the K2.
The microHam website
As Don, W3FPR has already pointed out, alignment of the K2 is straightforward
and requires no test equipment. By following the instructions in the manual,
as well as the frequency calibration info provided on Don's website, my dial
calibration is now accurate within about 20 Hz, using WWV as a
For a few days now, I've been driving my Ameritron AL80B amplifier with 10-15
watts from my K2, yielding roughly 100-150 watts output on CW (no QSK). It's
been working very well. I thought I'd share how this is implemented, in case
anyone else is interested.
I have three rigs (Omni 6, K2
Geoff, G3NAQ wrote:
So I have installed a dummy panel in the shack on which a number of
difficult-to-adjust trimmers and coils are mounted, all requiring
different
trimming tools which I usually have to hunt around to find. Thus, when I
hear that weak DX I just can't copy, and get those
Ron, wb1hga, wrote:
I will still prefer my K1.
I can't argue with your preferences. The K1 is a fine rig, I'm sure. I have a
Wilderness Sierra (Wayne Burdick's predecessor to the K1), and I enjoy making
QSO's with it. However, when I hear a KW contest station on 80 meters working
from a
This has certainly been an interesting discussion. Usually this question comes
up in asymmetrical situations-- where the op at one end is running QRP power
levels and/or using a marginal antenna, and the person on the other end is
running power that may be orders of magnitude higher than QRP
All the rationalizations and anecdotal experiences aside, there is no escape
from the physical reality that a 100 watt station will be 13 dB stronger than
the same station running QRP 5 watts. Whether or not this 13 Db is crucial
depends upon propagation conditions and noise and QRM levels at
I thought readers (especially those now building their K2's) might be
interested in my review of the Rework Eliminators now found at the eHam
website, under Product Reviews, QRP Accessories.
73 Happy Holidays to all,
Chuck NI0C
K2 s/n 5853
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