Well some great comments, it just shows what a diverse bunch of geeks we
really are!
To me a Radio Amateur is and always will be proficient in CW to some
degree, it's part of our history.
For me 100% copy using sophisticated error correcting Digimodes does not
turn me on... quite the opposite.
Not going to try to convince anyone that likes CW that digital is
better. But it offers something different.
I first started with psk-31 back a decade ago, then added JT44, then
JT65 and other of the WSJT suite of digital programs mainly for eme
with QRP transmit power (150w).
I recently
All you say rings true. I've never been a fan of
the error-correcting modes because they tend to
slow things down; my digi mode of choice is PSK31.
The diversity of the hobby is one of its marvels
and accounts for me to its staying power: Some
years I operate more and some years I build more,
On 3/21/2014 8:39 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
CW is neat as a hobby technology, but commercially, it is less
relevant than blacksmithing. There are quite a few professional
blacksmiths, but no professional CW operators.
Oh?? See: www.radiomarine.org. Station KSM is banging away while I
On 3/21/2014 8:52 AM, Ross Primrose wrote:
I think you've underestimated by quite a bit. RTTY has been around
since the early '30s.
And I'm still of the generation who could tune across the HF bands and
pick out the simplex, multiplex, and multi-channel commercial circuits
by ear. I worked
On 3/21/2014 9:32 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
Automatic error correction is the real difference that makes modern
digital modes more effective than manual digital modes (Morse) or
send-and-pray digital modes (RTTY).
7-level error-correcting ARQ was in heavy commercial use in the 1950s.
It
KSM is staffed by volunteers. I respect their skill and dedication, but
professionals are paid. I expect these operators are retired professionals or
former professionals. Morse is no longer a career path. Even the military has
dropped Morse interception as a recognized skill.
On the other
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Is it me, but what is the attraction to the Digimodes?
I can and do understand the achievement to get a new mode working, which
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I feel the same way Denis. I guess when I finish Honor Roll and Challenge
3000
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I feel the same way Denis. I guess when I finish Honor Roll and Challenge
3000 maybe I will get back to it, but I am old and the younger folks don't
seem to get the charge from CW that I do. To me, even when you talk, digi
is too much
On 3/21/2014 11:39 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
I like digimodes because the technology is awesome.
I'm amused when people consider them new, because they've been around for
roughly 50 years.
I think you've underestimated by quite a bit. RTTY has been around
since the early '30s.
73, Ross
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I feel the same way Denis. I guess when I finish Honor Roll and
Challenge
3000 maybe I will get back to it, but I
I really considered saying Dawn of Modern Digimodes. Automatic error
correction is the real difference that makes modern digital modes more
effective than manual digital modes (Morse) or send-and-pray digital modes
(RTTY).
wunder
K6WRU
On Mar 21, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Ross Primrose n...@n4rp.com
Please define effective. This is a hobby.
Except for Emergency communications, missing a character or two doesn't
mean squat. For contests, digital error correcting protocols are
non-starters. For pileups, I doubt any error correcting protocol will
be of use.
73 de Brian/K3KO
On
There are ... no professional CW operators.
The FCC still issues *commercial* radiotelegraph licenses.
The commercial First Class and the Second Class radiotelegraph
licenses still existed until just TEN MONTHS ago. Then the First
Class license was eliminated and the Second Class license was
I accidentally fat fingered this directly to wunder instead of to the list,
so here it is again...I hope:
I am going to put a pitch in here for some of the not so new digimodes as a
way to keep the hobby interesting. RTTY has certainly been around a lot longer
than 50 years...even longer than
Many of the Olivia variants are much slower than typing speeds as well.
I've had Olivia QSOs that lasted more than 1hr I've also made Olivia
QSOs when there was nothing audible nothing visible on the waterfall.
73, Ross N4RP
On 3/21/2014 1:39 PM, Mark Petiford wrote:
I accidentally fat
I use PSK31 frequently, EasyPal SSTV once in a while, RTTY once in a while,
just getting into DStar. CW is challenging and SSB is fun, enjoy them both,
too.
There are many advantages to digital:
-- an error-free record of communications is produced more or less
automatically.
-- casual or
I'll take a stab at this question.
Im the guy who has incredible social anxiety when calling CQ via SSB on the
air (mostly due to a speech impediment that I'm very self conscious about).
I'm just learning CW and know enough to be dangerous (and annoying) on
the air. So that just leaves me with
I have been experimenting with the digital modes, starting with JT65 and
JT9. I find them both excellent when signal conditions are very poor. I
have worked DX stations that were buried in the noise and could just
barely be heard and in some cases couldn't even be heard. I plan on using
both
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:16:41 -0700, Frank Precissi wrote:
I'm just learning CW and know enough to be dangerous (and annoying) on
the air.
Which is one of the main indicators that you need to work more of it. :)
Gary
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:54:32 +0100, F5vjc wrote:
Hi Walter, yes I agree
Nice job of trimming - NOT! :)
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73, Dave, K2YG
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:13:28 +0100
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Greetings to the group,
U agree...back when my son was young and just laid in his bassenett (=much
more radio time), I used to have rag chew qso's quite often on 30 and 40
meters using psk rtty Olivia. They are a number of hams looking to rag
chew, so forget the macros and start typing away. If
Is it me, but what is the attraction to the Digimodes?
I can and do understand the achievement to get a new mode working, which is
the only satisfaction that I can find.
Why?
Having succeeded in getting any Digimode working the only traffic I see
are canned messages and brag dialogues of no
On forums and reflectors!
Eric
KE6US
On 3/20/2014 3:56 PM, F5vjc wrote:
I am not knocking the Digimodes I hope but would like to know, are there
any real keyboard to keyboard interesting QSO/s to be found, and if so
where?
73, F5VJC
There is a lot of activity on PSK31 mode using canned macros as you
describe, and some operators are content with doing only that, however
there is a lot more to digimodes than just that.
Some people are interested in propagation effects, and may run
automated stations such as on PSK31 PropNet or
K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
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