[Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

I'll be. "You are digging a deeper hole," is now a critique by a peer. On 9/15/2015 1:31 PM, Jim Bolit wrote: Yes, but many can be misled with "official looking" information that has cover statements buried in the content. Anyone who publishes information of this nature should be prepared

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

What??? Everybody doesn't get a trophy? ;-) On 9/15/2015 1:31 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: A test designed to make everyone feel good about what they bought is like T-ball for the tots. T-ball is really great for the little kids. Love to watch 'em. But the top of the Sherwood list is the major

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

On Tue,9/15/2015 10:36 AM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: I was responding to the comment that you "thoughtfully" deleted so you could go on with your critique. I always try to trim what I'm replying to without losing meaning. I know it's hard for some people to believe, but some of us in the unwashed

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

I was responding to the comment that you "thoughtfully" deleted so you could go on with your critique. I know it's hard for some people to believe, but some of us in the unwashed masses are actually capable of deciding what is "useful" to us in our own situations. . On 9/15/2015 9:50 AM,

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Guys - please keep it civil. Eric Moderator etc. /elecraft.com/ On 9/15/2015 6:04 AM, Jim Bolit wrote: Adam, You are digging a deeper hole... JimW6AIM __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

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On Tue,9/15/2015 7:10 AM, Wes (N7WS) wrote: Seems to me that he's just trying to explain himself. Yes, but in doing so, he's making it clear that his work does not contribute useful information to a ham trying to evaluate the relative performance of radios in a strong signal environment, AND

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

Hi Jim, 2.7 kHz 5-pole. I have added this information to my chart. 73, Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ From: Jim Bolit [mailto:jbol...@outlook.com] Sent: 15-Sep-15 05:13 To: Adam Farson; 'Johnny Siu' Cc: Elecraft List Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison? Adam, Please

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

Tnx Jim W6AIM Original message From: Adam Farson <far...@shaw.ca> Date: 9/15/2015 11:03 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 'Jim Bolit' <jbol...@outlook.com> Cc: 'Johnny Siu' <vr2...@yahoo.com.hk>, Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 to

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et> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison? Hi Johnny, The K3 with the KSYN3A is in a closely-packed cluster of radios which score highest in the NPR test. Its exact ranking depends on which test frequency is being compared. The differences are very slight, mostly wit

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

Wayne and/or Eric, Please do NOT shut this thread down. There is so much useful and interesting information being shared. Please let the censorship curmudgeons utilize the Del key. Thank you. Take care es... Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI Sent from my android device.

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hodologies that are in conflict, raising questions by peers. Jim W6AIM . Original message From: "Wes (N7WS)" <w...@triconet.org> Date: 9/15/2015 12:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison? I was respondi

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com Cc: Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison? Hi Jim, To quote: "If the test is designed to show response of the receiver to a lot of strong signals such as are present in a contesting or DX pileup environment, or as are present in a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

Adam, You are digging a deeper hole... JimW6AIM . Original message From: Adam Farson <far...@shaw.ca> Date: 9/14/2015 6:48 PM (GMT-06:00) To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com Cc: Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Compari

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

On Sun,9/13/2015 11:51 PM, Adam Farson wrote: For Jim K9YC: Hi Adam, Thanks for the description of your work. Could you take the time to respond to recent posts by W4TV and W4BQF in this thread? 73, Jim = = = = = Adam is an out an out Icom evangelist - not exactly unbiased. An

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

For Joe, W4TV: To quote: "On the other hand Adam limits noise power for direct sampling SDR designs to a lower level than used with traditional up/down conversion transceivers. The lower noise power input gives the direct sampling designs an unfair advantage be ignoring strong signal

[Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

Hi Jim, To quote: "If the test is designed to show response of the receiver to a lot of strong signals such as are present in a contesting or DX pileup environment, or as are present in a multi-transmitter site, the signal level should be consistent with that environment, NOT with the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

I bought a K2 the year it came out and I have one of the first K3s. I still hate the tap/hold interface. I paid what I feel was an obscene amount of money for a set of heavy, machined VFO knobs to replace the stock ones. I wish the K3 had more room for controls, so there would be less

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

On Mon,9/14/2015 10:10 AM, Adam Farson wrote: As explained in my web article (and also in my QEX article), the optimum noise loading points for an ADC and a conventional receiver are different. In the conventional receiver, optimum noise loading is reached when the noise power induced in the IF

[Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

4日 (週一) 2:51 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison? For Jim K9YC: Hi Jim, Many thanks for the post on my presentations at the club meeting on Saturday September 5. To quote: "There's an important caveat to his work. The NPR measurements require very sophisticated

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For Jim K9YC: Hi Jim, Many thanks for the post on my presentations at the club meeting on Saturday September 5. To quote: "There's an important caveat to his work. The NPR measurements require very sophisticated band-stop filters in his instrumentation setup, and based on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

All: OK, I will jump in on this one. It's close to my heart. My closest local ham friends are IC-7800 owners. All 5 of them. All of them have larger and taller antennas than I do. I can hear everything they hear and, though I'm at a 500w transmitter disadvantage viz their kilowatt

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(with new KSYN3A installed) is the second best in terms of NPR test? 73 Johnny VR2XMC _ 寄件人︰ Adam Farson <far...@shaw.ca> 收件人︰ Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月14日 (週一) 2:51 PM 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison? For Jim K9YC: Hi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

On Sat,9/12/2015 2:12 PM, Skip Cameron wrote: If anyone has done a K3 to IC-7800 comparison, Here's another VERY interesting set of RX measurements. The Noise Power Ratio (NPR), is essentially a measure of how broadband noise and QRM outside the passband show up inside the passband. It

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

On 9/13/2015 2:10 AM, Jim Brown wrote: He seems quite genuine, no horses in the race, his objectives seem to be the same as Rob Sherwood and my own -- to put mfrs feet to the fire to improve the receive performance and signal quality of the stuff they sell us. :) Adam is an out an out Icom

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 8:09 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison? On 9/13/2015 2:10 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > He seems quite genuine, no horses in the r

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. 73, Tom - W4BQF -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 8:09 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison? On 9/13/2015 2:10 AM, Jim Brown wrote: He s

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Adam has always been very dismissive publicly of the K3 architecture. However, I would hope that his personal opinion does not in any way influence the results of his testing. Al  W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

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: b...@wjschmidt.com -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Skip Cameron Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 4:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison? If anyone has done a K3 to IC-7800 comparison

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

A couple of operators have posted comparisons between the IC-7800 and K3 recently. Look at these e-mails. http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2015-August/220182.html

[Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

If anyone has done a K3 to IC-7800 comparison, please reply direct to me with your assessment. Thanks, Skip W5GAI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

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On Sat,9/12/2015 2:12 PM, Skip Cameron wrote: If anyone has done a K3 to IC-7800 comparison, please reply direct to me with your assessment. I've never seen a 7800, so no experience. However, ARRL and Rob Sherwood have. Rob's data is on his webpage. It concentrates on receiver performance.

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Every now and then I will think of how many dollars I have tied up in my K-Line and how it is way overkill for what I do. Then I read some of this type of thread - and I am again convinced that I spent wisely. Over 55 years on the air and the K-Line beats everything I have ever had - no

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

You guys are right, the Elecraft radio are great. But I have lots of radios from many manufacturers, current stuff, and Elecraft will have to keep on there toes to stay up there. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 12, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Bill wrote: > > Every now and then I will

Re: [Elecraft] K3 to IC-7800 Comparison?

I'd like a comparison with the IC-7851. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sVpoPJKgo8 On 9/12/2015 2:31 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Sat,9/12/2015 2:12 PM, Skip Cameron wrote: If anyone has done a K3 to IC-7800 comparison, please reply direct to me with your assessment. I've never seen a 7800, so