Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

2016-05-09 Thread Mark , ars : KE6BB via Elecraft
Re: With increasing cycle count, individual cells are showing differences. Cycle count agravates the differences, but the most common CAUSE is a failure to FULLY CHARGE the series set of cells, so some of the cells never reach their FULLY CHARGED voltage.  Damage occurs during use as the cells

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

2016-05-09 Thread LA7NO
Hi Markus, thanks for interesting info. Discharge was with 100 mA. I am using a TechnoLine BC-1000 charger. It handles the 4 cells individually. Max. charging current is 1.500 mA, discharge current max 500 mA - all selectable,. Seems to work quite well. Per-Tore / LA7NO On 9 May 2016 at

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

2016-05-09 Thread hb9brj
Per-Tore, With increasing cycle count, individual cells are showing differences. If you don't charge them individually, these differences are getting bigger, as reflected by the numbers you posted. You mentioned that you verified cell capacity using your charger. At what discharge current? Most

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

2016-05-08 Thread LA7NO
Hi list, and thanks for useful information. I usually do not deeply discharge the cells. This was only for checking the actual capacity at the cells before testing. I just measured the voltage of the 8 cells, once with the KX3 off, once with receiving with high volume. These are the results:

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

2016-05-06 Thread Bill Frantz
Another thing to check is corrosion resistance at the battery contacts. I find this problem frequently with flash LED head-mounted lights. When I have a problem like this, I like to measure the cell voltages under load. You may be able to run the KX3 into a dummy load at the 0,1W tune

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

2016-05-06 Thread Bob N3MNT
Also using LSD (Eneloop standard) cells and non-transmit voltage reads 10.4V even after several months of no use. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-internal-battery-problems-tp7617201p7617204.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

2016-05-06 Thread Fred Moore
I think you will find that one of the cells used in this series arrangement will have a high internal resistance. You also mentioned a brand that I have seen the worst performance from (my personal experience). I have been using one of the Blue ESR meters (80 bucks) for about 4 years to look at

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

2016-05-06 Thread Peter Lambert
"new" pack in the unit will never get cycled just topped up. 73's Peter VK4JD -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of LA7NO Sent: Friday, 6 May 2016 8:07 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

[Elecraft] KX3 internal battery problems

2016-05-06 Thread LA7NO
KX3 (ser. no. 08146) works OK on external power, but recently I am experiencing problem using it on internal rechargeable cells. The AA cells are relatively new Varta Professional No. 5706, 2700 mAh NiMH. They have been charged with a techno-line BC-1000. Measured capacity via an automatic