Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-13 Thread hawley, charles j jr
's.) > > >> On 11/07/2020 20:40, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: >> From: Frank O'Donnell >> To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" >> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 power out >> Message-ID: <07eb80bf-c36b-e2f8-b4f8-52144e84b...@inkbox.net> >>

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-13 Thread Dave B via Elecraft
ecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: > From: Frank O'Donnell > To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" > Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 power out > Message-ID: <07eb80bf-c36b-e2f8-b4f8-52144e84b...@inkbox.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Af

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-12 Thread Edward R Cole
I also have the KX3 with 2m module and ATU. My understanding is Auto is used to tune the antenna but you then switch to MAN to operate after the ATU tunes to your antenna (my KXPA100/KXTA100 works the same way). My original 2m module (kit) did not reach full output so I returned the module

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Frank O'Donnell
On 7/11/20 8:40 PM, Mark Goldberg wrote: The KX3 will definitely cut way back on power out if it sees a mismatched load or a line voltage drop. I use my KX3 to tune a screwdriver antenna. I normally set the power out to about 3W, but sometimes forget and leave it at 15W. When matched, it puts

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Frank O'Donnell
On the KX3 display, the voltage is 14.3v at idle, 13.8v key-down. At the power supply, 14.5v idle, 14.15v key-down. On 7/11/20 7:51 PM, Brian Hunt wrote: What is the key-down voltage seen on the KX3 display? Measure the regulated voltage at the PS under the same conditions. Is it OK? I had

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Mark Goldberg
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 7:06 PM Frank O'Donnell wrote: > As for Walter's point about the ATU, the results are mighty odd. I just > set the KX3 to 40 meters with 15 watts out, appropriate slug in the Bird > 43, set ATU to bypass and started keying. The power out dropped to about > 5w. I then set

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Brian Hunt
What is the key-down voltage seen on the KX3 display? Measure the regulated voltage at the PS under the same conditions. Is it OK? I had power control problems on my K3 until I solved the sagging voltage problem. GL & 73, K0DTJ > On Jul 11, 2020, at 12:42, Frank O'Donnell wrote: > > Always

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Bill Frantz
I believe that the KX3 does not have bypass relays in its ATU. Instead, when you select "Bypass", it sets the ATU to have no C or L added. If the ATU is not functioning correctly, perhaps with a stuck relay, it may still be affecting the measurements. 73 Bill AE6JV On 7/11/20 at 10:05 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Grant Youngman
This procedure (manual, or automated via the KX3 Utility) applies only to 160-6M Grant NQ5T > On Jul 11, 2020, at 10:05 PM, Frank O'Donnell wrote: > > On 7/11/20 1:19 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: >> As a start, I’d recommend running through TX GAIN calibration using the KX3 >> Utility … > >

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Frank O'Donnell
On 7/11/20 1:19 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: As a start, I’d recommend running through TX GAIN calibration using the KX3 Utility … Good suggestion. If a 2-meter module is installed, as is the case with mine, I wonder if the automated calibration using the KX3 Utility flies through all the

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Walter Underwood
You should not need an ATU with a dummy load. Put the ATU in bypass. Did you send dits or a constant carrier? I recommend using RTTY or FM to get a constant carrier. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jul 11, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Frank O'Donnell

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Grant Youngman
As a start, I’d recommend running through TX GAIN calibration using the KX3 Utility … Grant NQ5T > On Jul 11, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Frank O'Donnell wrote: > > Always something else I remember just after hitting send. > > The KX3 is running off the Pro Audio Engineering PAE-Kx33 power supply,

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Mark Goldberg
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 12:41 PM Frank O'Donnell wrote: > > After a fair time of non-use, today I got out my KX3 and started working > through configuration checklists. Among other things I thought I'd check > the power out. > > For this test I used a Bird 43 and MFJ-260C dummy load. For HF I

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Frank O'Donnell
Always something else I remember just after hitting send. The KX3 is running off the Pro Audio Engineering PAE-Kx33 power supply, plugged into the 9-15 vdc connector. On 7/11/20 12:40 PM, Frank O'Donnell wrote: After a fair time of non-use, today I got out my KX3 and started working through

[Elecraft] KX3 power out

2020-07-11 Thread Frank O'Donnell
After a fair time of non-use, today I got out my KX3 and started working through configuration checklists. Among other things I thought I'd check the power out. For this test I used a Bird 43 and MFJ-260C dummy load. For HF I used a Bird 2-30 MHz 25w element, and for 2m a 100-250 MHz 10w

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars

2015-03-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, The KX3 (or the K3 or K2) will not control its power output properly unless you drive the audio sufficiently. The ALC meter on the K3 and KX3 is a combination of an audio level meter and ALC meter. Below 5 bars indicated is really the 'no ALC' range. So adjust the soundcard audio

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars

2015-03-02 Thread John Huggins, kx4o
Thanks Walter. I think I understand now. What is the loop bandwidth of the power control loop? Thanks. John, kx4o On Mon, March 2, 2015 05:54, Walter Underwood wrote: No. Most likely the power varied as it was hunting for the right level. It probably started low then increased power slowly

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars

2015-03-02 Thread Walter Underwood
That is a question for the designers, but it clearly adjusts much, much more slowly than amplitude modulation frequencies (to avoid distortion). This is a closed loop power control, like commercial transmitters. Most amateur transmitters are fixed gain, so this is a surprise for nearly every

[Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars

2015-03-01 Thread John
Hello all, I had a successful binge of RTTY this weekend in the NAQP using the KX3, audio interface and N1MM (MMTTY). This was hastily assembled after the audio interface arrived Saturday. Things came together splendidly whereupon I made QSOs with west coast stations from Virginia. Only

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars

2015-03-01 Thread k3ndm
barefoot. 73, Barry K3NDM - Original Message - From: John k...@hamradio.me To: elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:13:05 AM Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars Hello all, I had a successful binge of RTTY this weekend in the NAQP using

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars

2015-03-01 Thread John
Is it safe to say my very low input audio level was compensated by the KX3's power control loop to yield 5 watts out (the actual radio power setting)? It's hard to shake my Icom digital interface habits. Thanks. John, kx4o On 3/2/2015 12:34 AM, k3...@comcast.net wrote: John, The manual

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars

2015-03-01 Thread Walter Underwood
No. Most likely the power varied as it was hunting for the right level. It probably started low then increased power slowly throughout each transmission. wunder Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Mar 1, 2015, at 9:44 PM, John k...@hamradio.me

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars

2015-03-01 Thread k3ndm
, March 2, 2015 12:44:07 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Power out vs. ALC bars Is it safe to say my very low input audio level was compensated by the KX3's power control loop to yield 5 watts out (the actual radio power setting)? It's hard to shake my Icom digital interface habits. Thanks