Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-28 Thread Edward R. Cole
It seems to me this supports the argument for using a laptop for display. The LP-Pan would be ideal due to its small size. A screenless compact version of the P3 would be as convenient. I assume that laptops are taken on dx-peditions for logging. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-28 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
While that is another option, I have used LP PAN in the past. For me the P3 is much more flexible. My computer screens are already clogged up with logging programs etc. It is nice to look over at the P3 and do what I need to do on the P3 without losing window focus on other apps etc. The

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
It seems to me this supports the argument for using a laptop for display. The LP-Pan would be ideal due to its small size. If one wants screenless operation, SDR-IQ with its Spectravue software is ideal. The SDR-IQ is about 4 1/2 x 3 7/8 x 1 1/4, will interface to the K3 IF Out and

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-28 Thread R. Kevin Stover
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:55:34 -0400 Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: If one wants screenless operation, SDR-IQ with its Spectravue software is ideal. The SDR-IQ is about 4 1/2 x 3 7/8 x 1 1/4, will interface to the K3 IF Out and computer USB. Using VSPE, LP-Bridge or another virtual

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 4/28/2011 1:02 PM, R. Kevin Stover wrote: And you get another pretty good general coverage receiver out of the deal. The general coverage receiver is only available if you do not feed SDR-IQ from the K3 IF Out jack and quality will be somewhat dependent on the soundcard used for audio

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-27 Thread Andrew Faber
John, Thanks for sharing your experiences. Sounds like a great trip. While not exactly dxpeditioning, I take my P3 to P4 for contests, and find it to be invaluable, both for checking band activity and for finding open spots for running. Here's a picture of a prototype P3 in use in 2010 WPX

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-27 Thread Cady, Fred
Especially if it were made of aluminum to save a bit on weight. -Original Message- Suggestion to Elecraft: What would make the P3 even more useful for travelling would be a smaller version. The box is mostly empty space, so a faceplate in a 2-3 inch deep box with appropriate fold

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition

2011-04-27 Thread Lu Romero
I was more interested in making my life a little easier in the face of unlimited and sustained pile-ups which start to get to be a bit much after three or 4 days. You know, as a guy with a little station who has never been wanted, I should be so lucky than to have this problem :) -lu-W4LT-

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Cady, Fred
You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you are listening to figure out the operator's pattern. -Original Message-

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Brian Alsop
You're going to do this while running a pileup 1000 callers deep? DXpeditions exist to make QSO's, not watch TV. If a DXpedition is having trouble making QSO's, a P3 isn't the answer. Improving their antenna(s) and being aware of propagation most likely is. 73 DE Brian/K3KO On 4/26/2011

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Brian, Most of the comment so far appears to be focused on the hunter, not the DXpedition. On the next effort we intend to use the P3 on a receiving station monitoring bands we are not using at a particular time. Many Dxpeditions do not have a huge number of operators. If you mean a Dxpedition

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Fred wrote: You can Hold CENTER and move the DX station's freq to the left edge of the display and set SPAN so the pileup is spread across the whole display. The two controls interact some but it is easy to do while you are listening to figure out the operator's pattern. Thanks, Fred, that

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
SSTV for example is a mode just like digital, cw, phone and rtty and granted it is not as common as the other more popular modes but it is a mode nonetheless operated by many. SSTV is not recognized as a separate mode in the DXCC program - or as far as I know in any major DX award program.

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread gary bartlett
My motivation in taking a P3 to CY0 was not to overcome difficulty in making QSOs. Based on two previous DXpeditions to CY0, I was more interested in making my life a little easier in the face of unlimited and sustained pile-ups which start to get to be a bit much after three or 4 days. I think

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
I would prefer the room for other things in the travel bag instead of the P3. All of the things you would like to do can be done with the radio alone. In split mode you can monitor your own transmit frequency. There is not much you can do about what goes on there and the UP UP UP ers will

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread gary bartlett
To me it was all about easily providing the operator with alternatives to nothing but the receiver alone that might ease the pressure of the DXpedition workload. That would have lead directly to increased throughput, in which case everyone would win. An experiment based on selfishness but with

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread gary bartlett
Let me be quick to counter any unintended tone of bitterness regarding my good friend Randy N0TG and the CY0 DXpedition that most recently happened. It was clearly my choice not to go on the final trip. 73, Gary, VE1RGB -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread Cady, Fred
W0MU wrote: Maybe we need a DX-pedition version of the P3. There is no reason the case needs to be as bit as it is. If the case was shrunk down to a third of the size I might consider taking one. Oooh, there's a cool idea. That ought to be pretty easy to do. I think there is a use for it,

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)/DXpedition version of P3

2011-04-26 Thread Nick Marsh
Write an app for an iPad or Android device. Nick Marsh WB4SQI On Apr 26, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote: W0MU wrote: Maybe we need a DX-pedition version of the P3. There is no reason the case needs to be as bit as it is. If the case was shrunk down to a third

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Joe, I am certainly NOT going anywhere on the top 200 list. Where we are going is a unique place in VK and most likely the transmissions will be on NON DX bands to a station in VK to get the pics posted. I don't think too many people will even notice mate. Gary On 26 April 2011 23:35, Joe

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-26 Thread N6JW
Hi Brian, et al: Perhaps the experience of someone who has actually taken a P3 on a DX operation might be of some interest. I returned early February from a month and a half trip to Southern Africa. While not a dxpedition per se, the trip did include a single- handed, but serious, operation

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-25 Thread gary bartlett
I was all set to take my P3 to CY0 with N0TG and crew because I had convinced myself that it would be the perfect tool for pile-up management as the DX station. I even went so far as having (very nice) matching K3/P3 cases made up by Rose. The P3 case has sufficient remaining room for

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-25 Thread Gary Gregory
Brian, I will be QRV at Undara Volcano National Park (VKV-01) with a complete K-Line so will let you know. May 18th-May 24th, 10/15M openings to the US expected to be good. You can look here for more info: http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/activities.htm 73's Gary On 26 April 2011 07:54, gary bartlett

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-25 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
gary bartlett wrote: I figured that I could use the P3 to look around any given band before I started creating a pile-up to see how much damage I might be doing, and once I found the best (i.e., least offensive) portion of the band, I was going to use the Span adjustment in Tracking Mode

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-25 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Ian White GM3SEK wrote: That's a very responsible attitude (although the same result can be achieved with a panadapter). Sorry, low coffee error: ...same result can be achieved withOUT a panadapter. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek

Re: [Elecraft] P3 on DXpeditions (was P3 and SSTV)

2011-04-25 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/25/2011 10:06 PM, Ian White GM3SEK wrote: Fixed-tune mode is excellent for pileups, except that all the information is crowded into the right-hand half of the screen because the DX operator is normally listening UP. No problem. I use ONLY fixed tune mode. I have the Fixed Tune toggle