And for you "new" hams, $150 today was worth $35.02 in 1970. I did a
presentation that included what is available today and what was available 20
years ago along with real Dollar comparisons. Most (old--you define that)
hams rarely consider inflation in their assumptions, much less what "young"
As I recall BAOFENG has basically accomplished that with a $29.95
VHF/UHF 8 watt radio. The kids in the neighborhood love them. And the
parents can summon the kids using my repeater. License? What's
that? It is like CB, no license required. Just ask one of them and
you'll find out
A VERY good video. I use it with Scouts as my intro into JOTA (Jamboree
on the Air) for the past few years. Professionally done. If is fast
paced it does SHOW youth doing RADIO and it keeps the interest as it is
only six minutes long a very very good video.
73, steve WB3LGC
On
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10-80m CW and phone for $150:
http://www.hfsignals.com/
73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Busin
https://youtu.be/8x6x_6mDVlQ “Amateur Radio - A 21st Century Hobby” produced by
the RSGB
Sent from my iPad
> On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:40, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) wrote:
>
> The RSGB has an excellent ham radio overview video. The target audience is
> people under about 30. Everyone in the video
The RSGB has an excellent ham radio overview video. The target audience is
people under about 30. Everyone in the video is under ~25. It presents the
hobby in young peoples' terms using their terms and points of reference. It
covers public service, HF, V/UHF, contesting, satellites,
We might take a page from Cadillac.
Somewhere in the early 2000s their ads began using models and actors
exclusively in the 20-40 age range. No more gray-haired executives.
Jack makes good points.
Why do they call you "weird," by the way?
73,
Kent K9ZTV
On 12/16/2019 3:07 PM,
One of my ventures into ham radio was the purchase of a complete Heathkit
station. While the original SB-104 left a lot to be desired, the fact that
Heath offered financing for the complete purchase. Don’t recall the details
but I made monthly payments until it was paid in full.
Bob, K4TAX
LOL! No problem, for a second there I thought I had a tumor!
And I agree with Fred's last post. Although I'd never pay $500 or more
for a "smart" phone.
73 de Tom - KB2SMS
On 12/17/19 10:24 AM, Bjorn Pehrson wrote:
Sorry abt that ,my bad, wrong recipient...
On 2019-12-17 16:22, Bjorn
I am not talking about "restricting" but rather making available what is
not available for those hams.
It would do the Technicians a lot of good to discover other mode
availabilities within their current licenses and help to move them ahead
beyond HTs and repeaters.
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:26
hm, verkar vara svårt tt hitta genomskinlig Sikaflex trots att sika
säger att det ska finnas i alla byggvarubutiker. Jag har svart och det
finns vit att köpa. Har försökt googla runt.
Känner du till något speciellt märke och var man kan köpa det?
On 2019-12-17 15:57, Nate Bargmann wrote:
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Sorry abt that ,my bad, wrong recipient...
On 2019-12-17 16:22, Bjorn Pehrson wrote:
hm, verkar vara svårt tt hitta genomskinlig Sikaflex trots att sika
säger att det ska finnas i alla byggvarubutiker. Jag har svart och det
finns vit att köpa. Har försökt googla runt.
Känner du till något
* On 2019 16 Dec 23:18 -0600, Buddy Brannan wrote:
> An interesting little rig to follow is the UBitx at
> http://www.hfsignals.com/
>
> $199 gets you a 3-30 MHz SSB/cw rig. Sure, no cw filter, and I’m sure
> the receiver ain’t no KX3 or even K2, but it’s hackable and pretty
> darned interesting
With all due respect, I disagree with the statement "there are few
inexpensive ventures into HF available today." I was licensed at 14 and
remember my first HF rig was an used HT-44 and DX-160. I used that pair for
six years and learned a lot about how to optimize my set up until I had
enough
An interesting little rig to follow is the UBitx at
http://www.hfsignals.com/
$199 gets you a 3-30 MHz SSB/cw rig. Sure, no cw filter, and I’m sure the
receiver ain’t no KX3 or even K2, but it’s hackable and pretty darned
interesting for $200, or even as little as $150.
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV
10-80m CW and phone for $150:
http://www.hfsignals.com/
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The QRP Labs QCX certainly meet that criteria. Single band (80, 60, 40,
30, 20, 17, pick one), LCD and controls included. Dual Si5351 VFO,
keyer, 5 watts, CAT, cw decoder, thru-hole, not to mention built in test
equipment for alignment and troubleshooting$49. Add solder and
enclosure just
Ted and all,
I do not think restricting the choices to VHF and UHF gear is going to
"save the hobby".
There are few inexpensive ventures into HF available today. There are a
few inexpensive CW only kits available from QRPme.com, but those are
quite limited and are CW only. Oh to have the
An SWL QSL card would certainly be popular too if you could figure out
how to send the report! :-P
Merry Christmas all,
Rick NK7I
On 12/16/2019 3:10 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
Neither would ham radio if you could talk to hundreds or thousands of
other planets or stars, and couldn't do so any
Neither would ham radio if you could talk to hundreds or thousands of
other planets or stars, and couldn't do so any other way. As best I
know, a telescope is still the only way to observe one.
73,
Dave AB7E
On 12/16/2019 1:44 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
And yet, dabbling in a different
Back in 1960 I bought my transmitter, an Eico 720 Kit for $79.95. My receiver
at that time was a Knight-Kit R100.
The US inflation calculator says that $79.95 in 1960 is equal to about $695
today. This was a transmitter only and the only mode was CW and it was crystal
controlled (no VFO).
y, December 16, 2019 4:42:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] THE FUTURE OF OUR HOBBY
Yet, here is another product idea that is driven by my concern that so many
new Techs get an HT and don't develop further into our fine hobby/avocation.
A Transceiver more significant than a Chinese cheapie for ge
Kent, you didn't find the "correct" issue of Scouting, as JOTA is
advertised every year as is K2BSA at the National Jamboree every four
years. See: https://www.scouting.org/jota/
73, steve WB3LGC
On 12/16/19 4:20 PM, K9ZTV wrote:
Went to the barber shop this morning. Wide assortment of
More...
Although it has not happened, I have long expected June VHF and Sept VHF to
displace Field Day and then get more of those many new Techs active.
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 3:42 PM Ted Edwards W3TB wrote:
> Yet, here is another product idea that is driven by my concern that so
> many new
Yet, here is another product idea that is driven by my concern that so many
new Techs get an HT and don't develop further into our fine hobby/avocation.
A Transceiver more significant than a Chinese cheapie for getting on other
modes in the VHF and/or UHF bands.
I do wish there were a
I drop off old QSTs at various places.
> On Dec 16, 2019, at 4:20 PM, K9ZTV wrote:
>
> Went to the barber shop this morning. Wide assortment of hunting, fishing,
> and gun magazines in the rack, along with a few copies of “Scouting” and
> “Boys Life.”
>
> Picked those two and sat down for a
Went to the barber shop this morning. Wide assortment of hunting, fishing, and
gun magazines in the rack, along with a few copies of “Scouting” and “Boys
Life.”
Picked those two and sat down for a leisurely read. Hadn’t seen one in sixty
years. A real treat. Proceeded to peruse every page
This discussion reminds me of how the parable, The Blind Men and an
Elephant, fits our sacred hobby to a "T":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant
We are all "right" in a narrow sense but we are all "wrong" because our view
points are so skewed by our perception of truth. We
And yet, dabbling in a different part of the electromagnetic spectrum -- with
simple optical telescopes -- never gets old.
Wayne
> On Dec 16, 2019, at 12:14 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
>
>
> Since you asked ...
>
> I'm not trying to be negative for the sake of being negative, but I think the
Since you asked ...
I'm not trying to be negative for the sake of being negative, but I
think the young people interested in those things are going to
immediately be drawn to hardware and software considerably more
sophisticated than amateur radio. What you're expecting is the
equivalent
A few quick thoughts on this subject.
Space exploration, colonization, and physics are the best "hooks" I see to
fish for the young people that are best prospects as future hams.
Amateur radio is the best way to "touch" the world beyond the earth and to
get a "hands on" understanding of solar
On 12/16/2019 10:19 AM, Leroy Buller wrote:
This is a concern of mine for Elecraft. A low cost entry rig with 100
watts. Very hard to compete with I Y K for this market. Flex has the same
issue but maybe the old man rich market is big enough for all players.
Elecraft is not a mass market,
This is a concern of mine for Elecraft. A low cost entry rig with 100
watts. Very hard to compete with I Y K for this market. Flex has the same
issue but maybe the old man rich market is big enough for all players.
Saving for a K4
Lee
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 10:03 AM Charlie T wrote:
>
>
Note to Wayne & Eric that an inexpensive entry level transceiver might find
market with newcomers on tight budgets (eg the K1, etc.); something other
than a VHF HT. KX2/KX3 are still a bit much for the college student or
newly graduated worker.
73, Ed - KL7UW
That's probably what the current
Mentors for ham radio:
Well, I had only one who was a young music teacher in a nearby town
who taught a ham class in the evening. I got my father to drive to
them and the teacher lent me one of the paper tape CW practise
machines to study CW. He then gave me my Novice and Tech license
“Today’s new hams will be the youth of several years back.”
As am I! Started at 14, finally licensed at 60. My parents thought it was a
bad idea, I got off track as life went on and finally came back to radio. Too
many distractions for kids today that don’t require study.
However long it
How about, I refuse to have a cell phone! Imagine that, I can get away
without everybody trying to find me and the government can't track me
down. If my YL, KB1TCG, really wants to find me when I'm out she can
cruise 20 or 40m and find me...
YL has a burner phone in case of emergencies
Bob,
Already see this in recent hams joining our local ham club. Most are
40-60, in their later working years or recently retired, kids have
left home and time & money available for pursuit of hobbies. My
finances did no turn around until age 50 to enable serious ham radio
purchases. I
Agree with Kent. Amateur radio is already enough on its own, because it’s so
varied. There’s no need to make it what it is not in order to attract those who
don’t see its value. Communication is merely one aspect. Certainly it’s a fun
aspect, but it’s only one. Big deal. Worldwide
When I first became a radio amateur, there were something like 25,000 to
300,000 hams in the U.S. alone. There are more than 700,000 now. I'm
optimistic. A cellular telephone isn't amateur radio.Sent from my Samsung
Galaxy smartphone.
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I believe that to be likely as well, depending what effect the changing
demographics have upon frequency allocations. But we will probably be
much fewer in number ... the people in the pictures from Dayton look a
year older each and every year and that can't go on forever.
As I said
I agree as I have seen the social changes over the past 60+ years. As a youth,
I was attracted to ham radio. I didn’t have the internet or a cell phone or
video games. But we did have B & W TV. Today it my feeling those getting
into ham radio will not be the youth of today, but will be
Everything is renewable.
Nearly every Catholic church in Christendom has a widow's quilting
circle. Now they are welcoming male millennials who are attending
sewing classes and spending weekends at quilt shows.
Go figure.
Amateur Radio will never die as long as it offers so many niches
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