Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-03 Thread David Woolley
Key clicks don't require non-linearity. They are the result of modulating with a signal that has an infinite bandwidth, because of the sharp transitions at leading and trailing edges. That results in infinite side bands. (Actually any signal that communicates information in finite time will

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread James Bennett via Elecraft
No - it does not spontaneously go into transmit more. The problem is that on the non-Elecraft radio, placing the KPA into transmit mode (with a button push on the KPA) drops the non-Elecraft radio’s receive signal tremendously. See Jack’s explanation in an earlier post on what the K3 is doing

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
I don’t think your point #1 is valid. The K3 will cause the KPA to change bands when it does a band change and sends out changed bits on the BAND signals. If you don’t change bands on the K3, then the KPA won’t have a reason to change. The problem with this, when RADIO = K3, is that tapping a

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Andy Durbin
"Just gave it a try. No joy, same result - lowered rx signal strength on the IC-705. Jack indicated that the K3 sets the Vcc rail to zero volts on power off, and that is causing the amp to go into Operate mode. " Maybe I lost the plot but wasn't the problem that the KPA500 was being keyed,

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread James Bennett via Elecraft
Chuck, Just gave it a try. No joy, same result - lowered rx signal strength on the IC-705. Jack indicated that the K3 sets the Vcc rail to zero volts on power off, and that is causing the amp to go into Operate mode. I see the following options - 1. Always put the K3 on the same band as the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Fred Jensen
Or perhaps OOKPWM?  That was the only available modulating technique for spark transmitters.  For all it's apparent simplicity, it is still possible to create a rotten signal, and it is notoriously difficult to decode ... unless you're a human being. My modest home station is comprised of

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/1/2022 2:35 PM, kevin wrote: It is more accurately referenced as Discontinuous Wave. Actually, it is 100% amplitude modulation of a carrier by a rectangular wave train. That modulation excites non-linearity in the transmitter signal chain and produce intermodulation distortion that is

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Chuck Chandler
Hhhmmm... I'm coming late to this thread, as I wasn't paying attention before. Please forgive me if I have missed something but - I have, in the past, used both a K3S AND an old Yaesu FT-101ZD with my KPA/KAT 500 power combo. I *THINK* that is similar to what Jim is trying to do. Here is what

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread kevin
For the same reason we call using Morse Code CW. It is more accurately referenced as Discontinuous Wave.    73,  Kevin.  KD5ONS On 4/1/22 13:23, Fred Jensen wrote: Why do we call this "wireless?" 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote on

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Fred Jensen
Why do we call this "wireless?" 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote on 3/31/2022 9:47 PM: OK, now this is starting to make sense. Jim’s K3 has a KIO3, not the newer KIO3B. On the older board, the BAND and PTT lines have pullup resistors to

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread ws6x.ars
22 3:36 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue Jim, I don’t think this is the same problem as you had. The receive signal on my K3 does NOT drop off when placing the amp in OPER. With my antenna switched over to the IC-705 (not the K3), the received signal does dro

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread James Bennett via Elecraft
Jim, I don’t think this is the same problem as you had. The receive signal on my K3 does NOT drop off when placing the amp in OPER. With my antenna switched over to the IC-705 (not the K3), the received signal does drop off when the amp is placed into OPER mode. Thus, I’m pretty certain that

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread ws6x.ars
"However, what I'm seeing is that when the amp is in OPER mode, my receive signal strength drops way, way off to the point I have to go full AF volume to hear signals. If I put the amp in STBY, signal levels go back to normal." These exact symptoms have been associated in past reports with a

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Ken K6MR
SO2R setup and interleave QSOs. Ken K6MR From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Frank Scolaro Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 8:46 AM To: James Bennett ; Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue Jim,. I use the "1A2R" (one

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread RALPH TURK
In the attached email Frank W2yk wrote the 1A2R from 404A. I only find a 403. Please advise Ralph, w7HSG/AFA9RT > On 04/01/2022 9:48 AM Rick Bates, NK7I wrote: > > > It does.  But you HAVE to remember to send a dit on each band change so > the amp knows where you are. > > 73, > Rick NK7I >

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Andy Durbin
"Pulling the audio cable when I want to use the IC-705 with the amp isn’t practical due to the location of the radio." The high density 15 pin connectors used on the Aux cable is readily available and inexpensive. Why not make an adapter that allows the PTT line (pin 10) to be switched

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Rick Bates, NK7I
It does.  But you HAVE to remember to send a dit on each band change so the amp knows where you are. 73, Rick NK7I On 4/1/2022 8:46 AM, Frank Scolaro wrote: Jim,. I use the "1A2R" (one amp tw0 radios) from 4O4A.  I have two rigs share my KPA1500.  However, if the rigs are on different

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Frank Scolaro
es Bennett Sent: Apr 1, 2022 11:02 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue   Well, it looks like there is no simple solution to this dilemma. I was hoping to (easily) be able to use the amp with either rig while both were here in the shack. Pulling the audio cable w

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread James Bennett via Elecraft
Well, it looks like there is no simple solution to this dilemma. I was hoping to (easily) be able to use the amp with either rig while both were here in the shack. Pulling the audio cable when I want to use the IC-705 with the amp isn’t practical due to the location of the radio. I changed the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-04-01 Thread Andy Durbin
"The reason I don’t suspect the PIN diodes is that the KPA works properly with the K3. " Sorry, I missed that part. 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Now let me answer my own question. There is a key-line interrupter adapter that I believe comes with the AUXIO cable. This is an HD-15 type adapter that will block the PTT signal from the K3 to the AUXIO cable. Use this, then you will need to connect the K3 to the KAT500/KPA500 using a phono

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
OK, now this is starting to make sense. Jim’s K3 has a KIO3, not the newer KIO3B. On the older board, the BAND and PTT lines have pullup resistors to the Vcc rail. When the K3 is powered off, that Vcc rail is at 0 volts, which means the pull-ups are now pulldowns. Thus the K3 is inadvertently

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
The reason I don’t suspect the PIN diodes is that the KPA works properly with the K3. The K3 does not have a magical ability to repair KPA PIN diodes, so it most likely is not a problem there. This is probably a K3 without the new K3S I/O board, which means it has pull-up resistors on the BAND

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
The email I sent earlier. You might look in your junk folder, Jim… 73, Jack, W6FB > From: Jack Brindle > Subject: Re: KPA500 Issue > Date: March 31, 2022 at 2:40:26 PM CDT > To: James Bennett > > On the KPA front panel, hold the menu button to go into the menus, then > scroll down to the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread Andy Durbin
"p.s. do you have any idea what Jack was talking about when he said "switch the RADIO setting of the KPA from K3 to something else, either Serial or Analog”??" KPA500 menu / Radio / (Serial/Analog/BCD/K3). Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread James Bennett via Elecraft
Bob - The * appears when I key the K3 and the amp is in operate mode. Likewise if I key the 705 and the amp is in operate mode, with the K3 powered on. If I power off the K3 and place the amp in operate mode WITHOUT KEYING IT, the * appears, so you are correct - the amp thinks it is being

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread kd4iz
Jim, All, James Bennett Wrote: > However, what I?m seeing is that when the amp is in OPER mode, my receive > signal strength drops way, way off to the point I have to go full AF volume > to hear signals. If I put the amp in STBY, signal levels go back to normal. I > also notice that the amp

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread Lyle Johnson
Jim, See page 38 of the Rev E1 KPA500 operating manual for how to set the radio in the KPA500 menu (not KPA500 utility). This is the current version of the manual a available on the Elecraft website. 73, Lyle Kk7P On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 5:12 PM Jim Clymer wrote: > In my case, it was not the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread Jim Clymer
In my case, it was not the PIN diodes themselves, but failure of R9. I'm away from my shack right now, so may not have the resistor ID correct. It is a 48 Ohm resistor. I fixed the problem by parallel connecting a pair of 1/4 W, 100 Ohm resistors across the open one. Problem solved. Been fine

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread James Bennett via Elecraft
I was unable to try Jack’s suggestion of disconnecting the AUXIO cable - doing so made the KPA5000 not able to go into Operate mode. So, I wanted to do the other option he mentioned - changing the “radio” setting of the KPA to Serial or Analog. Unfortunately, I have no idea where that setting

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread Andy Durbin
"However, what I’m seeing is that when the amp is in OPER mode, my receive signal strength drops way, way off to the point I have to go full AF volume to hear signals. If I put the amp in STBY, signal levels go back to normal." These exact symptoms have been associated in past reports with a

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2022-03-31 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
m; What happens when you disconnect the AuxIO cable from the K3 to the KPA? The other solution is to switch the RADIO setting of the KPA from K3 to something else, either Serial or Analog. If nothing is connected to the analog band input with RADIO = ANALOG, the KPA should work as usual.

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 issue

2020-11-09 Thread Bill Frantz
I think you have enough information to order a replacement from Elecraft. 73 Bill AE6JV On 11/9/20 at 3:55 PM, kb2mj...@att.net wrote: > I had a capacitor fail in my KPA500's 15m bank pass filter area. It is C151 > a 100pf capacitor. Does anyone know what physical size it is, so I can order >

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2015-01-30 Thread Andrew Faber
:34 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue Hi Barry, There is an asterisk that appears on the left side of the KPA500 display whenever the key out signal from your transmitter is present. You should not see the asterisk when you are receiving. If you

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2015-01-30 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Barry, While your experience suggests that a transistor switch will probably save the day I also wonder if the problem is the result of the absence or presence of a pull-up resistor or perhaps a floating common connection between the rig and amp. Maybe a resistor in the plug would help. I

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2015-01-30 Thread AG0N-3055
when I switch it from Stby to Oper, the level of received signals drops by around 5 or 6 s points. It still transmits fine and there are no adverse SWR indications or loose co-ax plugs. It does the same on all bands. Sounds like bad PIN DIODE situation, but I'll let those who are more

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2015-01-30 Thread Joe Hutchens AJ8MH-Radio
Looks like the Kenwood switches high during transmit and the KPA500 requires a low for transmit. KPA500 specs in my manual say +5V max, open circuit on receive, closed to ground on transmit. My old KPA500 manual doesn't show Kenwood interconnections. Only the K3, Yaesu and Icom. Yup, ya

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2015-01-30 Thread Barry Simpson
Good morning to those who responded to me on the Elecraft reflector. Here is the interim outcome. I did not mention that the problem arose after connecting my brand new (yesterday) TS590SG to the KPA500. The TS590SG has different linear switching facilities from the TS590S in that there is now

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Issue

2015-01-30 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Barry, There is an asterisk that appears on the left side of the KPA500 display whenever the key out signal from your transmitter is present. You should not see the asterisk when you are receiving. If you are then is it possible that you are using the key out signal to operate some other