Re: [Elecraft] K-pod
Now that the K-Pod is shipping, when will we see support for the KX3 (via the PX3)? Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-pod-tp7618867p7618871.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [KX2] Schematics
Typically, how long after an Elecraft product first ships are the schematics published? Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-Schematics-tp7618872.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Battery Charger / Power Supply
Hi Luke, I assume you've discovered your last two posts, "KX2 Battery Charger / Power Supply" and "KX2 Firmware Suggestions", don't have any content (i.e., no body). Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-Battery-Charger-Power-Supply-tp7618866p7618873.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K-pod
No need to apologize, Eric. I'll just need to be content with my "tricked out" Griffin PowerMate, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20USB%20Knob.jpg I know you're familiar with the PowerMate. ;-) Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-pod-tp7618867p7618921.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Firmware and PigKnob
Hi Randy, I've been thinking of pulling the trigger on a K-Pod, but in retrospect what I really need most is a way to move the marker and simulate a knob press remotely on the P3. [js] This is exactly what I’m after ... only with the PX3. Of course, if you can control the PX3 / P3 markers using a K-Pod, you should also be able to control the KX3 / K3 VFO’s via the PX3 / P3. [js] I don't know if Elecraft has plans to control the P3 using the K-Pod via the K3. I have a PigKnob here that I now use to tune the radio. It connects directly to the RS232 port going into the P3. It occurred to me that it might be possible to use the PigKnob to control the P3. I downloaded and had a look at the P3 command reference and was disappointed to discover there's no command to move the markers. I would sure like to see an enhancement to the P3 firmware that would add a "Marker Up / MarkerDown" tuning command. Maybe I'm missing something, though. Does anyone know of a way to make the P3 marker(s) move under software control? [js] You can make the PX3 / P3 markers move under software control using the #MFA and #MFB commands, however, the controller must be “stateful” (e.g., PC, tablet, smartphone, adjunct electronics, …). In order to move the PX3 / P3 markers using a "stateless" macro, you’re absolutely correct with respect to the need for new relative (up / down) marker frequency remote control commands (i.e., #DNA/#DNB and #UPA/#UPB). I also have an alternate proposal to modify the existing #MFA and #MFB command syntax. [js] I’ve written this up, however, I haven’t shared it with Elecraft because I already have a rather lengthy PX3 wish list (e.g., I rather have them focus on integrating the K-Pod with the PX3 / P3), http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3%20Wish%20List%20-%20Relative%20Frequency%20Commands.pdf [js] I have a proposal to integrate the K-Pod with the PX3 as a HID (Human Interface Device), building on the existing keyboard HID support. This approach greatly simplifies the K-Pod firmware. This HID-based approach will also work with the P3. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Firmware-and-PigKnob-tp7618908p7618914.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K-pod
I see Elecraft just removed the "June 15, 2016" date from the K-Pod page, http://www.elecraft.com/k-pod/k-pod.htm and updated the shipping status page to reflect "June 28, 2016", http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm I'm still interested in knowing when the K-Pod will support the KX3 (via the PX3). :-) Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-pod-tp7618867p7618896.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PX3 BETA 1.45 firmware now available
> There is a known bug with the macro import feature. As a work around, > after the macros > have been exported to a file, you will need to rename the file > "px3macro.txt" to "macros.txt" . This is what's referred to as an "undocumented feature". This feature allows the user to save / restore one of possibly many text message / macro "sets" where a "set" is a collection of 50 text messages and 50 macros targeting a specific operating scenario. The best "fix" is to allow the user to (optionally) enter (override) the default name in importing a text message / macro file. I'm excited to see the text message / macro file is in text format. Has anyone developed a PC-based utility to manage the text message / macro file? 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-BETA-1-45-firmware-now-available-tp7620109p7620136.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K-POD LED programming
> Note that there is nothing in the current K-Pod "advertising" to > indicate that the LEDs are programmable, so there is no deceptive > advertising going on. Both the K-Pod web page and data sheet state, Three of the unit’s user-definable LEDs indicate rocker switch position, by default. The manual states, LEDs D1 THROUGH D4 PROGRAMMABLE TO INDICATE STATUS OF K3s/K3FUNCTIONS Clearly, Elecraft isn't trying to be deceptive. They'll certainly deliver on this functionality in a timely manner. But I can understand why someone would think the LED's are (currently) user-definable / programmable. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-POD-LED-programming-tp7620527p7620537.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX2 VFO A Encoder
Can anyone tell me which encoder the KX2 VFO A uses? It's described as a "Mechanical, sleeve bearing" encoder in the KX2 FAQ. I'm looking for the specific make and model. Most of the Elecraft encoders are manufactured by Bourns. If you can't access the specific make and model, a close-up photograph would be appreciated. Is the encoder soldered to the main circuit board? Or does it have its own mini "daughter board" (like the K3 and KX3 VFO A encoder) which, in turn, plugs into the main circuit board (making the encoder upgrade-able / field replaceable)? Would someone please measure its CPR (Counts Per Revolution)? Set the VFO A rate to 1 Hz, note the VFO A frequency and rotate the knob / encoder 360 degrees. The CPR corresponds to the increase / decrease in frequency (in Hz). Much appreciated. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-VFO-A-Encoder-tp7620865.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] k-pod PTT emulation
> Since the macro is sent ONLY when switch is pressed, it's not possible > to send a "return to receive" macro by releasing a switch on the K-Pod. Actually ... a macro is sent: when a programmable switch is released after being held for less than 500 ms; or when a programmable switch is held for more than (>=) 500 ms. Note: It doesn't matter if the switch is held for 500 ms, 5 secs or 5 mins. The associated "hold macro" is sent after 500 ms. Steve is looking for the ability to send a macro when a switch is first pressed and at the time a switch is released (after 500 ms) ... neither of which are currently supported. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/k-pod-PTT-emulation-tp7620829p7620862.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 SDR
Hi Enzo, I'd recommend that you look at some of the Raspberry Pi / Elecraft KX3 panadapters, http://twitter.com/giorgiofox/status/694969541521207296 https://github.com/Giorgiofox/panadapter 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-SDR-tp7620795p7620805.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Scuff marks on display cover
This may help in weighing your options, E100403 / KX3 Bezel, $27.24 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Scuff-marks-on-display-cover-tp7621423p7621442.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX2 - Dimension of the KXBT2 Li_Ion pack?
> I would like to know the dimension of the Li-Ion package: Height, width > and length? 19.5 mm x 70.7 mm x 56.3 mm > How long is the power cable inclusive 2.1mm plug? 122 mm -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-Dimension-of-the-KXBT2-Li-Ion-pack-tp7621144p7621147.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX3 Macro via Remote Control Command
You can write eight macros to the KX3 using the KX3 Utility. How do you execute a KX3 macro short of assigning it to the PF1 or PF2 switch? Is there a remote control command to execute a KX3 macro? 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Macro-via-Remote-Control-Command-tp7620040.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PX3 BETA 1.45 firmware now available
Great job, Paul. I tested all of the new features this evening (and early morning) and have sent you detailed test results. I would like to highlight one feature in particular. The new PX3 #MAA and #MBA commands control the PX3 markers. These commands can be assigned to a remote knob such as the Pignology PigKnob. The commands have a variant in which the increment need not be specified, but rather the PX3 adopts the per-span / per-mode default increment (just like with the PX3 knob). In short, you just specify "up" or "down". If only the KX3 UP/UPB and DN/DNB remote control commands supported this variant. Hint, hint. I don't own a PigKnob, but I'll take a crack at the syntax ... The following (partial) syntax will allow the PigKnob to control PX3 marker A and QSY the KX3 VFO A frequency to the marker A frequency by pressing button B1, CMD> p Buttons: B1: ;#QSY1; Knob: CW: ;#MAA+; CC: ;#MAA-; Note: You'll want to make sure marker A is enabled, either through button B1 in conjunction with the #QSY1 remote control command, through a second PigKnob button, via the PX3 itself, ... Alternatively, you could control both PX3 marker A and marker B and QSY the KX3 VFO A frequency to the active marker frequency, CMD> p Buttons: B1: ;#QSY1; Knob: CW: ;#MAA+; FCW: ;#MBA+; CC: ;#MAA-; FCC: ;#MBA-; or even control KX3 VFO A (or VFO B) and PX3 marker A (or marker B), CMD> p Buttons: B1: ;#QSY1; Knob: CW: ;UP; FCW: ;#MAA+; CC: ;DN; FCC: ;#MAA-; If someone could test the new PX3 #MAA and #MBA commands using the PigKnob that would be great. I'm sure Nick will clean up my PigKnob syntax. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-BETA-1-45-firmware-now-available-tp7620109p7620123.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [KPOD] Re: Now that the K-Pod is shipping, (longer RJ12 cable)
As I mentioned in an earlier post, the K3 / K3s "J3" connector leveraged by the K-Pod was originally intended to serve as a MPLAB ICD 2 (In-Circuit Debugger), http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/ICD-2%20Schematic.jpg http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/MPLAB%20ICD%202.jpg http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/51331b.pdf 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPOD-Re-Now-that-the-K-Pod-is-shipping-longer-RJ12-cable-tp7620182p7620216.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: K-pod uses
IMHO, the primary advantage of the K-Pod is the weighted knob and corresponding 400-count ball-bearing optical encoder. It's the exact same knob / encoder used with the K3. You can tune the K3 remotely (up to the length of the cable) with the exact same "feel" as if you were turning the VFO A knob on the K3. Of course, in order to pull this off, the K-Pod must seamlessly support 400 counts per revolution (which is still TBD). You're absolutely correct in that the P3 supports up to 50 macros. In conjunction with a keyboard, you have macros coming out of your ears. In this scenario, the K-Pod programmable switches are definitely secondary. Not to mention the fact (as I understand it), the K-Pod won't control the P3 markers. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-K-pod-uses-tp7619860p7620056.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K-pod
> There has been mention of future software and interfaces for the PC. Will there be any kind of > programmer’s manual available to the public? +1 on the K-Pod programmer's manual. Good call, Ron. I assume Ron is looking for a definition of the interface / protocol between the K-Pod and K3 / K3s. I believe the K3 / K3s "J3" connector leveraged by the K-Pod was originally intended to serve as a MPLAB ICD 2 (In-Circuit Debugger), http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/ICD-2%20Schematic.jpg http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/MPLAB%20ICD%202.jpg http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/51331b.pdf With respect to future software and interfaces ... The owner's manual states, "Future firmware for the K-Pod that can be downloaded from www.elecraft.com will allow you to control your personal computer from the K-Pod through the USB interface. Your computer will recognize the K-Pod as a human interface device such as a keyboard or mouse." The HID protocol is well-defined. For now, let's see if we can get Elecraft to share the interface / protocol between the K-Pod and K3 / K3s. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-pod-tp7619885p7619897.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K-pod
> Probably (99.95%) not going to happen. Hasn't happened yet with any > other Elecraft device. Why would they "open source" the K-Pod firmware > now? Insignificant upside...potential huge downside. Maybe I wasn't clear. Or maybe I misunderstood what Ron was asking for. I'm not asking Elecraft to "open source" the K-Pod firmware. I'm asking Elecraft to publish the interface / protocol specification (not firmware) between the K-Pod and the K3 / K3s. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-pod-tp7619885p7619905.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod VFO counts per turn?
Thanks, Bill. That's exactly what Rick is seeing. The K-Pod is essentially functioning as a 50-PPR quadrature encoder, rather than a 100-PPR quadrature encoder. Let's see what Elecraft has to say. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-Pod-VFO-counts-per-turn-tp7619856p7619907.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod VFO counts per turn?
What are other K-Pod owners seeing? The K-Pod uses the same 100-PPR quadrature optical encoder as the K3. You should see 400 counts per revolution with VFO CTS set to 400. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K-Pod-VFO-counts-per-turn-tp7619856p7619900.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 wireles keyboard
Here's the list of keyboards supported in conjunction with the PX3 and P3SVGA, http://www.elecraft.com/manual/px3_keyboard_list_A3.pdf For some reason, the file name and title suggests this list is specific to the PX3, but the list itself states, "Keyboards listed were available when this list was created and have been tested with the PX3/P3SVGA" This is a (very) small sample of the supported keyboards. The key is "2.4 GHz wireless" and NOT "bluetooth". I wouldn't be surprised that an Apple keyboard does not work. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-wireles-keyboard-tp7619928p7619933.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [PX3] Mini Wireless Keyboard
I haven't used the Adafruit keyboard, however, I will offer a word of caution ... it wouldn't appear this keyboard has an "Insert" key. An Insert key is currently required in order to leverage the new PX3 "scratchpad" feature (which is excellent). The scratchpad feature can be used to substitute his:callsign in transmitting stored text messages. Paul has promised to fix this issue by offering an alternative to the Insert key (e.g., Alt-i, Ctrl-i, ...). I'm very fond of the Anker wireless keyboards, however, Anker no longer offers compact 2.4 GHz wireless keyboards. They only offer bluetooth compact keyboards. 2.4 GHz wireless is clearly falling out of favor. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Mini-Wireless-Keyboard-tp7619925p7619934.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] PX3 Macro and Text Message Utility
PX3 Owners, I'm looking for beta testers to test a new (free) PC-based utility to manage PX3 macros and text messages. First and foremost, I'm looking to test the concept. Of course, I'm also looking to flesh out bugs. A zip file containing the utility, release notes and help file can be found here, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3/PX3_software.htm Simply download and unzip the file to the desired directory. Refer to Help. The Utility works with PX3 firmware 1.45 or later. Please E-mail me privately if you're interested. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-Macro-and-Text-Message-Utility-tp7621331.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] k-pod PTT emulation
Currently, macros are associated with the trailing edge of a programmable switch. What you're proposing is an option through which a macro (SWT16;) could be associated with the leading edge (and the trailing edge) of a switch. I like the idea. Can't hurt to ask Elecraft. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/k-pod-PTT-emulation-tp7620829p7620857.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Re: Tracking Elecraft Feature Requests
> It's important that we have visibility not only into features in the
> pipeline, but also proposed features which have been rejected.
Why?
[js] {hypothetically} I have an idea for a new feature, P3 mouse support.
Before proposing the feature on the Elecraft mailing list, I first go to the
Elecraft feature / defect tracking system and search for "mouse". I find a
feature called, "Mouse-n-Click QSY". I see the feature was created on
December 16, 2011 by Dave Perry (N4QS). According to the feature
description, Dave replied to a thread titled "P3SVGA - Coming soon" authored
by Eric Swartz (WA6HHQ). Dave replied, "SVGA display looks great. Will we
also have point and click capability with a mouse?" I further discover the
feature has been closed with the disposition, "The P3 doesn’t have the MIPS
to sample IQ, process the 1024-point FFT, update the displays (spectrum and
waterfall), field remote-control commands, … and position a marker based on
the delta-X field in a mouse HID descriptor.” Oh well, it was a great idea.
But I see due to technical limitations, the P3 isn't capable of mouse
support.
Yes Joe, why should you be privvy to proprietary Elecraft information?
[js] We're not talking about proprietary information. We're talking about
features and defects raised by the Elecraft user community. We're talking
about the same features and defects discussed on this mailing list every
day. The same system may track "top-secret" features which aren't exposed
to the public. The system may serve to track internally discovered defects
which aren't exposed to the public (e.g., defects corresponding to an
unreleased firmware version). Even publicly-visible features and defects
will have some fields and attributes which aren't exposed to the public
(e.g., assigned engineer, effort estimate, test plan, ...). This is all
standard, vanilla stuff.
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 "Point and Click"
> There may be a technical implementation problem for Elecraft. > The last time I paid attention, the P3 didn't support USB hubs. > They would need hub support to use both a mouse and > keyboard at the same time. This assumes the keyboard and mouse have separate / dedicated 2.4 GHz wireless dongles. There are plenty of keyboard / mouse combos which share the same wireless dongle. I've tested several of them with my PX3. Of course, the PX3 ignores the mouse HID report at the moment, however, the keyboard HID report is interpreted just fine. USB hub support is certainly preferred, allowing users more flexibility in selecting their keyboard and mouse. As we've noted in the past, USB hub support would allow a thumb drive to be connected with the keyboard and mouse. For example, a unique key combination could be used to capture the P3 / PX3 screen to the thumb drive. The P3 / PX3 currently supports the ability to capture the screen, however, you first must remove the keyboard dongle and insert the thumb drive. I suspect many (most?) users would be content with only Mouse-n-Click QSY (no keyboard). This wouldn't require USB hub support. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Point-and-Click-tp7626801p7626842.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Tracking Elecraft Feature Requests
It would be nice if we could track Elecraft feature requests in a more structured manner. The same feature requests come up over and over again. We often hear, "Elecraft will never develop feature X unless N users ask for the feature." Rather than having subscribers respond to the Elecraft email list saying, "Count me in", "Me too", ... why not allow subscribers to express interest in a proposed feature by adding their name / callsign to a "feature logbook"? One logbook per feature request. Logbooks would be organized (tagged) by Elecraft product. Each logbook would include fields such as: Created by Created on Abstract Description Applicable Elecraft products Disposition Disposition updated on ... We wouldn't need to burden Elecraft with maintaining the logbooks. We could designate a few admins. We would need a means of authenticating a subscriber (e.g., Elecraft email list username / password, QRZ.com username / password, ...). Any subscriber could create a new feature logbook or an admin could create a logbook on a subscriber's behalf. An admin would update a logbook disposition to reflect feedback from Elecraft (e.g., "planned for release R", "rejected due to technical limitation T", "under consideration", ...). An admin would reconcile duplicate / overlapping logbooks. Subscribers would only express interest in a proposed feature (not disinterest). Comments, questions and concerns regarding a proposed feature would be reconciled through the Elecraft email list and reflected / updated in the logbook description by the Creator or an admin. Thoughts? Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Tracking-Elecraft-Feature-Requests-tp7626877.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Tracking Elecraft Feature Requests
> Why limit it just to list subscribers? Surely there are those out there who > may want a specific feature, but are not part of this list and don't wish > to > be (for whatever reason) but may still own an Elecraft item? 1. I'm trying to reduce spam. 2. I'm looking for an element of traceability / accountability. We want to discourage users from expressing interest in a proposed feature on another user's (or users') behalf. > Where are you planning to post these? Who's going to host whatever website > it is? We'll need to work out the technical details. At this point, I'm simply trying to gauge interest in the concept. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Tracking-Elecraft-Feature-Requests-tp7626877p7626881.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Product suggestion
There's tremendous commonality between the P3 and PX3 code base. The same will be true for your P3x. Mouse support is trivial. I'd simply push for mouse support in conjunction with the P3 / PX3. You'll get it for "free" with your P3x. Support for a gaming mouse is more involved. All of the keyboards supported by the P3 / PX3 share a common HID report. I'd expect the same to be true for the supported mice. A gaming mouse will have an extended HID descriptor and report. I don't envision a gaming mouse being supported. Wouldn't you prefer an HDMI output? SVGA must be 30 years old. I was working for IBM at the time it was defined. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Product-suggestion-tp7626927p7626931.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 "Point and Click"
Paul Saffren (N6HZ) can help us understand why we still haven't seen
Mouse-n-Click QSY support for the P3 and PX3.
If you use a 2.4 GHz wireless dongle which supports both a keyboard and a
mouse, the HID report sent to the P3 / PX3 contains not only the keyboard
information,
struct KBDINFO {
struct {
uint8_t bmLeftCtrl : 1;
uint8_t bmLeftShift : 1;
uint8_t bmLeftAlt : 1;
uint8_t bmLeftGUI : 1;
uint8_t bmRightCtrl : 1;
uint8_t bmRightShift : 1;
uint8_t bmRightAlt : 1;
uint8_t bmRightGUI : 1;
};
uint8_t bReserved;
uint8_t Keys[6];
};
but also the mouse information,
struct MOUSEINFO {
struct {
uint8_t bmLeftButton : 1;
uint8_t bmRightButton : 1;
uint8_t bmMiddleButton : 1;
uint8_t bmDummy : 5;
};
int8_t dX;
int8_t dY;
};
Obviously, the P3 / PX3 is ignoring the mouse information.
Basic Mouse-n-Click QSY functionality would require ~25 lines of firmware.
Joe
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Re: [Elecraft] Mouse-n-Click QSY
When I see Elecraft dodge a trivial firmware change like this year after year, I can’t help but wonder if they have ulterior motives. Maybe Elecraft plans to introduce a $250 wired remote control knob. Maybe they hope someday the knob will control the P3 / PX3. Maybe they feel adding a few lines of firmware to enable a $5 wireless mouse will impact the sales of their $250 knob. Maybe they’re just busy. When they don’t respond to a feature request, it leaves us guessing. This brings me back to my previous thread. We need a more structured approach to tracking Elecraft feature requests (and bugs). We need a record of when Mouse-n-Click QSY was first proposed. Elecraft can come back and say, “The P3 / PX3 is out of firmware memory space.” Or, “The P3 / PX3 doesn’t have the MIPS to sample IQ, process the 1024-point FFT, update the displays (spectrum and waterfall), field remote-control commands, … AND position a marker based on the delta-X field in a mouse HID descriptor”. This disposition will be captured along with the feature request in a central repository for everyone to see, now and forever. In another month or two when someone requests Mouse-n-Click QSY, we can simply refer them to the (now closed) feature request. Ideally, they’d search the feature / bug list first. Clearly, Elecraft isn’t interested in maintaining / exposing a list of features and defects raised by their user community. I’ve received several offers from members willing to host this list. We should have something up and running in a few weeks. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Mouse-n-Click-QSY-tp7626984p7626987.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K-Pod Macros
According to the manual, through a future firmware upgrade, the K-Pod will be able to function as a USB HID (Human Interface Device) such as a keyboard or mouse. Conceivably, the eight K-Pod tap and hold switches could be mapped to 16 P3 / PX3 macros. You could even implement three “banks” of 16 macros for a total of 48 K-Pod macros. Of course, this assumes: 1. you have a P3 equipped with the SVGA option or a PX3; 2. you’re not already using a keyboard in conjunction with your P3 / PX3 (this would require USB hub support); and 3. you haven’t already burned all 50 of your P3 / PX3 macros (unlikely). In a nutshell, I’m assuming if the K-Pod is to function as a USB HID keyboard, the tap and hold switches would correspond to standard keyboard keys (including combinations of Ctrl, Alt and Shift modifiers). The keys would be assigned to macros on the P3 / PX3. This wouldn’t require any change to the P3 / PX3. The P3 / PX3 wouldn’t be able to differentiate the K-Pod from a keyboard (which it already supports). With a P3, the K-Pod knob could continue to control the K3s/K3 via the data connector. With the PX3, the K-Pod knob would present itself as a mouse. Of course, this would require the beforementioned Mouse-n-Click QSY support. Alternatively, if you wanted the K-Pod knob to control the P3, the Mouse-n-Click QSY support could be leveraged there as well. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Mouse-n-Click-QSY-tp7626984p7627007.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mouse-n-Click QSY
For a moment it sounded like the K-Pod was being criticized [js] I didn’t mean to criticize the K-Pod. I’m simply speculating as to why Elecraft hasn’t added P3 / PX3 mouse support. [js] Last time I checked, the K-Pod isn’t capable of functioning as a mouse (and keyboard). However, according to the K-Pod manual, this support is planned. [js] I’m willing to concede Elecraft may simply be too busy. However, the need for Mouse-n-Click QSY has been raised every few months for years. And it’s a trivial firmware change. I think there’s something more to it. I am thankful not to be tied to a PC!!! [js] Same here!!! Hence, the desire for P3 / PX3 mouse support *without* the need for a PC. Perhaps they know more about the limitations of the hardware that stand in the way of implementing a feature you want. [js] My point exactly (second paragraph). Let’s capture their knowledge of the limitations (e.g., memory, MIPS, ...) in conjunction with the feature request. Case closed. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Mouse-n-Click-QSY-tp7626984p7627005.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mouse-n-Click QSY (was P3 product suggestion)
Let's assume Paul Saffren delivers Mouse-n-Click QSY support with the next P3 / PX3 firmware release. What else would you like the mouse to do other than QSY the rig's VFO frequency? I demonstrated Mouse-n-Click QSY with an Elecraft PX3 and KX3 almost 18 months ago, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D32PbJY60Uk http://www.wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/Mouse-n-ClickQSY.pdf I use the mouse to control marker A (or marker B). Tapping the left mouse button, QSY's the KX3's VFO A frequency to the marker A frequency. Optionally, tapping the left mouse button also sends an “auto spot” command to the KX3 (i.e., automatic zero beating). I found this to be very effective with PSK. With a little practice, you can Mouse-n-Click quickly. You just need to position the marker within the general vicinity of your target. The auto spot command takes care of the rest. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. If I *hold* (rather than tap) the left mouse button and move the mouse right and left, the marker A frequency *and* the KX3's VFO A frequency are increased and decreased in one Hertz increments, respectively (i.e., manual zero beating). You'd have to gauge for yourself how this compares to moving your hand between the mouse and the rig's VFO knob. If I hold the middle mouse button (wheel) and move the mouse up and down, the span is decreased and increased between 2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 and 200 kHz, respectively. I'm effectively zooming in and out. Obviously, a better user experience would involve directly controlling the span using the mouse wheel without the need to hold the middle mouse button (wheel) or move the mouse. This would require a little more firmware. I also demonstrated the ability to execute all of the PX3 tap and hold functions using a mouse. If I tap the right mouse button over a switch, the Tap function associated with the switch is executed. If I hold the right mouse button over a switch for longer than 500 ms, the Hold function associated with the switch is executed. For example, if you click the right mouse button over the Display switch, the display toggles between the spectrum and waterfall modes. Functions such as Display and Marker A / Marker B execute immediately. The other right-hand switch functions require input. I opted to use a keyboard with the mouse for input. Any of this of interest? How would you use a mouse (other than to QSY the rig's VFO frequency)? Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Product-suggestion-tp7626927p7626977.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [P3] [Px3] Display Text Decoding on the screen
Can we get a little more in-depth technical explanation as to why the P3 can't display decoded text on its TFT-LCD display? Neither the P3SVGA nor PX3 decode text. They simply display text characters already decoded by the K3 and KX3, respectively. Why can't the P3 write the text decoded by the K3 to its TFT-LCD display? Is the P3 MIPS/memory-challenged? Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Px3-Display-Text-Decoding-on-the-screen-tp7621750p7621782.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [PX3SVGA] PX3 Internal SVGA Large Screen Adapter
Hi Wayne, What's the best way to move a PX3 Internal SVGA Large Screen Adapter up the priority list? What's the best way to gauge interest? I don't imagine you want a bunch of "I want one", "Count me in", ... posts to the reflector. Do we have a polling mechanism (other than through the KX-line Yahoo! group)? 73's Joe KF5WBO > Hi Joe, > > The hooks are in place, but I can't say for sure that we'll offer one. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR >> Thank you, Wayne. On a related topic ... >> >> What's the history of the PX3SVGA (i.e., an internal SVGA large screen >> adapter for the PX3) or lack there of? >> >> 73's >> >> Joe >> KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3SVGA-PX3-Internal-SVGA-Large-Screen-Adapter-tp7621788.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [P3] [PX3][PX3SVGA ] Display Text Decoding on the screen
Thank you, Wayne. On a related topic ... What's the history of the PX3SVGA (i.e., an internal SVGA large screen adapter for the PX3) or lack there of? 73's Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Px3-Display-Text-Decoding-on-the-screen-tp7621750p7621786.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 with KPod
The PigKnob is already capable of controlling the PX3 markers. You simply need to ask Elecraft to port the #MAA and #MBA remote-control commands to the P3. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-with-KPod-tp7622090p7622094.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] adjust P3 markers with KPod
> I'd very much like this function too. This would be my primary use case > for the KPod I agree, Bob. Controlling marker A (or marker B) and QSY'ing the rig VFO to the marker frequency is a primary use case for any remote control panel. I want to be clear ... porting the #MAA and #MBA remote-control commands to the P3 will enable control of the P3 markers using the PigKnob. I can't speak to what's involved in controlling the P3 markers using the K-Pod. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-adjust-P3-markers-with-KPod-tp7622099p7622102.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] (Update) PX3 text not working
Same here. This is an "undocumented feature" (i.e., firmware bug). Please E-mail Paul Saffren (psaffren at elecraft dot com). You can enable and disable text using the "LABELS" (hold) switch. This won't require a power-cycle to take effect. This is probably easier than using the menu. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Update-PX3-text-not-working-tp7622104p7622106.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [KX2][KX3][KXIQ2] Best Base Station: KX2 vs KX3
> For me, having the I/Q on the KX2 would not eliminate need for my KX3. I agree, Len. In purchasing a KX2 with an RX I/Q output, I'd dedicate my KX3 to the shack. I'd use the KX2 / PX3 combination in the backyard, on a picnic table at the park, for camping, day hikes, Field Day, mini DX-peditions, travel, RVing, ... Elecraft already has the art work / silkscreen for the KX2 with RX I/Q left side panel, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/KX2withRXIQ.jpg We're halfway there. Hi hi. 73's Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-KX3-KXIQ2-Best-Base-Station-KX2-vs-KX3-tp7621965p7621985.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [KX3][PX3][KX2] PX3 to HDMI Large Screen (PX3HDMI); KX2 RX I/Q Output
Uncle! I give up. No RX I/Q option board for the KX2. I'll stick with my trusted KX3 + PX3 for portable operation (backyard, picnic table at the park, camping, day hikes, Field Day, mini DX-peditions, travel, ...) and as my one and only one HF base station. I'll continue to hold out hope that Elecraft will develop an internal adapter (i.e., PX3HDMI) to connect a PX3 to a large screen through an HDMI interface. 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-PX3-KX2-PX3-to-HDMI-Large-Screen-PX3HDMI-KX2-RX-I-Q-Output-tp7622035.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [KX2][KX3][KXIQ2] RX I/Q Output for KX2
Hi Ray, That's exactly what I am proposing ... an RX I/Q *option* board (i.e., KXIQ2) for the KX2. The KXIQ2 would serve as an alternative to the KXIO2 Real Time Clock option board, replacing the AUX output of the KXIO2 with an RX I/Q output. As an *option* board, the KXIQ2 wouldn't add to the base cost of the KX2. > I’m sure that the Elecraft people must have considered the > idea of such a port on the KX2, I strongly suspect the earliest KX2's (prior to the field test units) had an RX I/Q port. > but made the decision that most KX2 users would not take > advantage of it. I don't think this was the reason. > So, my money would be on some 3rd party developer figuring > out how to bring out the I/Q signal I'd welcome a third-party KXIQ2 option board to expose RX I/Q (even if it does void the factory warranty). I periodically ask for the KX2 schematics for this vary reason. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-KX3-KXIQ2-Best-Base-Station-KX2-vs-KX3-tp7621965p7622011.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Software Request
Not sure if you own a PX3 or whether a PX3 is appropriate for the type of portable operation in question, but I think the PX3 MSD (Mass Storage Device) feature is the closest thing to what you're looking for. You can save multiple configurations. Unfortunately, the PX3 currently only accepts a hardcoded file name. You need some way of renaming the configuration file on the MSD in order to load one of many configurations. 73's Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Software-Request-tp7622237p7622290.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] [KX2][KXIQ2] RX I/Q Output for KX2
Hi Ken, How do your local radio club members use their KX3 + PX3? I don't understand why they wouldn't be interested in using a KX2 + PX3 in these same situations (e.g., in the backyard, on a picnic table at the park, camping, day hikes, Field Day, mini DX-peditions, travel, RVing, ...). 73's Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-KX3-KX2-KXIQ2-RX-I-Q-Output-for-KX2-tp7622019p7622020.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX-Nob
I wanted to share my latest project ... http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/KX-Nob%20Datasheet.pdf 73's Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX-Nob-tp7622050.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [PX3][PX3HDMI][P3] PX3 to HDMI Large Screen; and Decoded Text to Native P3 Screen
I've attempted to fold in the feedback thus far. If you haven't already, please reply to this thread if you're interested in one or both of these new features. PX3 TO LARGE SCREEN Feature #1A (preferred). Elecraft to develop an internal adapter (i.e., PX3HDMI) to connect a PX3 to a large screen through an HDMI interface. Feature #1B. Elecraft to develop an internal adapter (i.e., PX3SVGA) to connect a PX3 to large screen through an SVGA interface. DECODED / TRANSMITTED TEXT TO NATIVE P3 SCREEN Feature #2. Elecraft (Paul Saffren, N6HZ) to modify the P3 firmware to write, * text decoded by the K3, and * text to be transmitted / transmitted text to the P3 TFT-LCD screen (without the need for a P3SVGA). This firmware change must continue to support the existing P3 Tx Mon (Transmit Monitor) option, for example, displaying the power output and SWR displays in place of the decoded text during transmit, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/P3SVGAwithDecodedText.jpg 73's Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-PX3SVGA-P3-PX3-to-SVGA-Large-Screen-and-Decoded-Text-to-Native-P3-Screen-tp7621828p7621849.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [PX3][PX3SVGA][P3] PX3 to SVGA Large Screen; and Decoded Text to Native P3 Screen
Thank you, Art. We've been discussing two new features on this thread ... Feature #1. Elecraft to develop an internal adapter (i.e., PX3SVGA) to connect a PX3 to an SVGA large screen. Feature #2. Elecraft (Paul Saffren, N6HZ) to modify the P3 firmware to write, * text decoded by the K3, and * text to be transmitted to the P3 TFT-LCD display (without the need for a P3SVGA). If you're interested in one or both of these new features, please reply to this thread. This is how Wayne prioritizes new products / features. Please take into consideration that for many (most?) KX3 owners, the KX3 serves as their one and only one HF rig. While the jokes about lugging an SVGA monitor to a mountain peak are clever, they fail to recognize the reality that a majority of KX3 operating hours are spent at the home QTH. 73's Joe KF5WBO > Wayne, > > If you are looking for interested parties, I for one would be interested — > also > along with that mythical BIG amplifier if you ever get the itch again — hi > hi > > 73, > > Art Peters, K0ACP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-PX3SVGA-P3-PX3-to-SVGA-Large-Screen-and-Decoded-Text-to-Native-P3-Screen-tp7621828.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [PX3][PX3HDMI][P3] PX3 to HDMI Large Screen; and Decoded Text to Native P3 Screen
> Since you asked . . . Actually, I asked "if*you're interested in*one or both of these new features ... please reply to this thread". Wayne is trying to gauge how many PX3 HDMI Large Screen Adapters he'll sell, not how many PX3 HDMI Large Screen Adapters he won't sell. I don't own a K3. I have no plans to purchase a K3. I could have said displaying decoded text on the native P3 screen should be a low priority. However, that would have been selfish on my part. I chimed in when it was (incorrectly) stated that the P3SVGA (and PX3) decodes text and that the P3 could never display decoded text without a P3SVGA. Wayne confirmed it's simply a "Small matter of programming." I left it to reflector participants to express their interest in this feature. I currently display decoded text and text to be transmitted on my PX3 screen using a 5 x 7 font. That's 335 text characters across five lines. I appreciate the fact that not everyone can comfortably see 5 x 7 text characters on a 4-1/4" diagonal screen. However, I see no reason why the P3 shouldn't support those who can. Would I prefer to view decoded and transmitted text on a larger screen connected to my PX3 via an HDMI cable? Absolutely. That's why I proposed the new feature. 73's Joe KF5WBO Message: 13 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 08:08:39 -0700 (MST) From: "Joe Stone (KF5WBO)" <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [PX3][PX3HDMI][P3] PX3 to HDMI Large Screen; and Decoded Text to Native P3 Screen Message-ID: <[hidden email]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've attempted to fold in the feedback thus far. If you haven't already, please reply to this thread if you're interested in one or both of these new features. PX3 TO LARGE SCREEN Feature #1A (preferred). Elecraft to develop an internal adapter (i.e., PX3HDMI) to connect a PX3 to a large screen through an HDMI interface. Feature #1B. Elecraft to develop an internal adapter (i.e., PX3SVGA) to connect a PX3 to large screen through an SVGA interface. DECODED / TRANSMITTED TEXT TO NATIVE P3 SCREEN Feature #2. Elecraft (Paul Saffren, N6HZ) to modify the P3 firmware to write, * text decoded by the K3, and * text to be transmitted / transmitted text to the P3 TFT-LCD screen (without the need for a P3SVGA). This firmware change must continue to support the existing P3 Tx Mon (Transmit Monitor) option, for example, displaying the power output and SWR displays in place of the decoded text during transmit, http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/P3SVGAwithDecodedText.jpg 73's Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-PX3HDMI-P3-PX3-to-HDMI-Large-Screen-and-Decoded-Text-to-Native-P3-Screen-tp7621869p7621889.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [KX2] fast becoming my favorite radio
What are the *key* KX3 features which make it more "serious" than a KX2? I'm not looking for an exhaustive feature comparison. I can find that in the color brochure. For those who use a KX3 as their primary HF rig at the home QTH, which features (unique to the KX3) are critical? Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-fast-becoming-my-favorite-radio-tp7621883p7621895.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [PX3][PX3HDMI][P3] PX3 to HDMI Large Screen; and Decoded Text to Native P3 Screen
> My only question - does this originate with Elecraft or the reflector? Reflector. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PX3-PX3HDMI-P3-PX3-to-HDMI-Large-Screen-and-Decoded-Text-to-Native-P3-Screen-tp7621869p7621896.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KXBC3 clock drift
Mike, > The manufacturer specs for all the Elecraft RTC chips promise much better. What Elecraft RTC chips are you referring to? The KXBC3 keeps time using a PIC microcontroller. > ... a customer does indeed have every right to expect a competent RTC > implementation when he purchases the option. No??? I would say a customer has every right to see the schematic. He/she can then judge for him/herself whether the RTC implementation is competent, http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3SchematicDiagramDec2012.pdf Speaking of which ... when can we expect to see the KX2 schematics? 73's Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KXBC3-clock-drift-tp7621866p7621901.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: KXBC3 clock drift
>> Re: "...Tweak the rate a bit each time the clock is set." > > Back in early 2013, there was some discussion on the > Yahoo Group about doing something like that either > through the Utility, or even a menu entry with "factor" > that could be adjusted by the user. It never went a > anywhere because most of us just learned to ignore > the clock, or be sure to reset the clock when we are > setting up a site. This was implemented with the KX2, "RTC ADJ". Any feedback from KX2 owner's who purchased the KX2 / KXIO2 Real Time Clock? > If the KX3 clock isn’t stable with temperature, it isn’t worth bothering. The accuracy of RTC IC's (e.g., DS3231) are typically measured in seconds per year (+/-2 ppm) across a broad range of temperatures (e.g., 32°F to 104°F). The KX3 / KXBC3 uses a PIC microcontroller to keep time, not a RTC IC. The KX2 manual states, "Monitor your clock's accuracy over 24 hours, preferably at your typical ambient operating temperature." I'm not sure there's such a thing as a "typical ambient operating temperature" for a portable rig like the KX2 and KX3. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Subject-Re-KXBC3-clock-drift-tp7621924p7621961.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [KX2][KX3][KXIQ2] Best Base Station: KX2 vs KX3
> For those who use a KX3 as their primary HF rig > at the home QTH, which features (unique to the > KX3 as compared to the KX2) are critical? Hajo (DL1SDZ) wrote, The Px3, the rest is nice to have. Ryan (AI6DO) wrote, I find the PX3 panadapter to be indispensible in both environments (both in the shack and in the field), so the lack of RX I/Q outputs is the KX2's biggest shortcoming to me. Thank you, Hajo and Ryan. I think you're absolutely correct. I attended David Shoaf’s "Shrinking the HF Transceiver" presentation at Ham-Com in Irving, Texas this year. David is in charge of international distribution and customer support at Elecraft. As part of his presentation, David shared that Elecraft was (unpleasantly) surprised by the high percentage of KX3's being used as base stations, in many cases, serving as the operator's one and only one HF rig. In other words, operators were buying KX3's in lieu of, rather than in addition to, K3's. David stated (repeatedly) that RX I/Q was suppressed on the KX2 ... not to reduce cost, size or weight, but rather to create "product differentiation" (his words) with the K3 and KX3. In other words (my words), Elecraft didn't want to make the same "mistake" with the KX2 that it made with the KX3. I was able to play with a KX2 at Ham-Com. What a blast. I'm anxious to purchase a KX2. However, I’d feel cheated purchasing a KX2 knowing RX I/Q was unnecessarily suppressed (at least from an engineering perspective). I’d like Elecraft to offer a KXIQ2 (an alternative to the KXIO2), replacing the AUX output of the KXIO2 with an RX I/Q output. Please reply to this thread if you're interested in having Elecraft expose RX I/Q on the KX2. This will enable the KX2 to be used with a PX3 for backyard / picnic table portable operation, travel, ... and, of course, in using the KX2 as a base station at the home QTH. For hand-held, pedestrian mobile and ultralight backpacking, I'll leave the PX3 at home and disable the RX I/Q output in order to save the 10 - 15 mA receive-mode current drain. Joe Stone KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX2-KX3-KXIQ2-Best-Base-Station-KX2-vs-KX3-tp7621965.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Dayton Hamvention 2017
What did Elecraft debut at Hamvention? -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Dayton-Hamvention-2017-tp7630859.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Mouse and P3 SVGA
> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and SVGA (first requested August 2009 and once every few months ever since) The P3/PX3 already supports USB HID (Human Interface Device). The firmware currently receives and ignores mouse reports. Note: The K-Pod is HID-compliant. In addition to P3/PX3 mouse support, you may want to request K-Pod support. Joe KF5WBO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Mouse-and-P3-SVGA-tp7631101p7631119.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod CTS to match VFO-What say you Wayne?
Hi Art, Did Wayne respond? Joe KF5WBO -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
