Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-20 Thread Dennis KB7ST
Hi Ron, I'm pretty much done with my testing on decoding PSK31. Using the method I tried, now I don't have to use the CW mode to help spot the right frequency to tune to in data mode. I trained my ear to recognize the 1010 Hz spotting tone that Lyle, KK7P, pointed out. And it's been much more

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-14 Thread Dennis KB7ST
Lyle and Ron, Lyle, thanks on the PITCH freq for PSK mode. That would explain why that macro has the IF shifted to 1100. I've spent last two days using W1AW twice per day data transmissions as a reference and have now developed an approach to more quickly gain success as PSK decodes and reduce

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-14 Thread Lyle Johnson
All that really matters is the shift (170 Hz) and rate (45 bps/60WPM, or 75bps/100WPM). The radio takes care of the rest, so you can use the ptich that you prefer. I've heard lots of stories about why the 2125/2295 Hz tone pair was used. Some of the stroies make sesne, but I haven't taken

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-14 Thread Kok Chen
On Aug 14, 2010, at 8/149:57 AM, Dennis KB7ST wrote: KB7ST: What is the advantage of choosing a MARK tone other than 2125? Many RTTY ops don't like to listen to such a high pitched tone pair in their headphones. If you are tuning by ear, it is also easier to figure out how far and

[Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-12 Thread Ron Herman
How does one tune PSK31 on the K3 such that the built in decoder can read it. Tuning seems to be very selective and without a waterfall nearly impossible to tune. The capture range of the AFC doesn't seem to be very wide. The CWT spotting function sometimes helps but only on stronger signals.

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-12 Thread Lyle Johnson
1) Use CWT. 2) Use a narrow filter. Once you find the station you want to copy, tighten the filter and retune as necessary. 50 Hz is not too tight. 300 Hz is too wide. If you are hearing two stations, then the selectivity is not tight enough. 3) Use auto-spot. You may have to hit it

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-12 Thread Kok Chen
On Aug 12, 2010, at 8/129:09 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: ... Tuning is critical and an error of more than 5 Hz changes from solid copy to no copy. With a binary PSK demodulator, you can be off tuned up to an amount of plus or minus 90 degrees of perfect phase coherency between bit

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-12 Thread Dennis KB7ST
Ron, I share the same challenges with PSK and RTTY decoding. My baseline is to operate my K3 while RV camping and to explore as much as I can without using a computer. I don't have full answers and folks like Lyle have been most helpful. I was last on HF 25 years ago so my K3, SN 4335, is

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-12 Thread Greg - AB7R
One thing that is important to remember is to make sure the threshold setting is set so that the signal indicator on the CWT meter is set to beat with the signal. If you have it set for copying moderately strong signals and you try to copy a weak one you may need to adjust the threshold a

Re: [Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-12 Thread Lyle Johnson
The K3's PSK encoder and decoder (used in DATA: PSK D mode) uses a pitch just above 1,000 Hz. If you narrow the badnwidth and use the CWT feature, you'll get the PSK signal. YOU can use the SPOT function in conjunction with the CWT indicator in this mode as described in the K3 manual. For

[Elecraft] {k3} PSK31 tuning

2010-08-12 Thread Ron Herman
Thanks to all that replied. I guess the problem is not with me... I expected PSK31 operation to be less critical after playing with Digipan. I also had hoped to use the computer interface to incorporate PSK/RTTY operation into my home brew logger/station control. But between tuning