, April 06, 2008 9:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tom Hammond
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] APP roll pins
APPs are bad design, bad technology, just bad why?
1 the crimp or solder or buy a special tool or what facts as noted
often here.
2. need glue often what
I must admit that I have had less than stellar results with the roll pins
myself... having a number fall out over time. Fortunately none fell into
'sensitive' electronic areas... they just fall out...
I didn't have have all that good luck with Super Glues either... not sure
why, but the several
Tom and all,
That is quite contrary to my experience. The APP housings that I have
purchased (from both PowerWerks and West Mountain Radio) have dovetail
matings that need quite a bit of force to slide completely together, and
I lock them with a drop of SuperGlue. I never had one come
Just a comment on the APP connectors and roll pins. There are many ways to
solve the problem, some good and some not so good. Everyone that's used
them long enough will probably have tackled the disappearing roll pin
dilemma at one time or another.
Glueing them tends not to work because most
This is crazy.
Who would ever want to use a connector with all the problems and care and
feeding of the APP's?
Something has gotten lost here. Imagine if you had to go endure all of this
for the AC plugs on all your household appliances?
Either the connector is no darn good or the problems
At 08:12 AM 06/04/08, you wrote:
This is crazy.
Either the connector is no darn good or the problems reported here are
greatly exaggerated.
Well said! It's fun to follow the threads and see just how far they
go though. I think G4ILO put an end to the 7.5 lb knob thread with
his comment
Actually, the 'basic' APP connectors have few 'problems'... they slip together
nicely and if properly assembled, require little additional 'help'.
The discussion had to do with the perceived need to 'help' them by inserting
pins to keep them from coming apart, which is rare anyway.
I virtually
Sermos.
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FWIW, I've been using APPs for years with no problems at all.
I solder the wires and have not had a single breakage. As I mentioned
earlier, millions of connectors do that with no problem. The trick is to
avoid forcing the stiff portion of the wire to bend constantly or to force
one small area -
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Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins
At 08:12 AM 06/04/08, you wrote:
This is crazy.
Either the connector is no darn good or the problems reported here are
greatly exaggerated.
Well said! It's fun to follow the threads
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P.S. I use the roll pin.
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From: K3KO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins
This is crazy.
Who would ever want to use a connector with all the problems and care
and
feeding
To: K3KO [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins
K3KO's response is the best I have read in this thread so far and I agree
100%. I have been using and putting up with these APP's for at least 6-7
years and have learned that I always crimp them using a cheap
Let's end this thread for now.
73,
Eric WA6HHQ
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abandon the false start they
represent?
Charles Harpole
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 09:15:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] APP roll pins
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Tom and all,
That is quite contrary to my
The APP kit I bought (some time ago) from PowerWerx contained the
cheap crimper, anc 20 sets of 30A APP's including the roll pins...
In over three years I have NOT had a roll pin come out!!
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Dave G. KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
Two things are infinite, the universe and human
I've purchased an APP pack or two that instead of having real roll pins (as in a
flat piece of metal rolled over on itself, having a bit of spring tension in the
process), just a piece of tiny metal tubing. While these slipped in place, they
also tended to slip out of place.
I'm guessing
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