That didn't fix it. Found this lunchtime with a real antenna:
- Worked OK with case open, testing the idea it was coupling from the 2m
module itself.
- Worked on other mic (SoundMagic earbuds and mic)
- Touching the case with metal made interesting noises on receive.
- HF (20m)
Yes. Headphone to mic distance gets short and feedback can happen from leakage.
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> On Feb 5, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Richard Corfield
> wrote:
>
>
> Even with monitor running into headphones?
>
> I was running the contest with monitor off at first, but I
The metal shield cover on the 2m module was not flat but slightly raised at
the edge. I have pressed this back on and the problem seems cleared. So I
guess it was contacting or coming close to the circuit board on the control
module, perhaps that giving the feedback loop for RF. Question is -
I've done some further tests and proven the problem is with the MH3. So
I'll have to take that apart and look for the problem.
The radio is fine with little earbuds/mic plugged in via splitter cable.
Swap out the mic on the earbuds with the MH3 and leave all the rest the
same and it goes wrong.
Even with monitor running into headphones?
I was running the contest with monitor off at first, but I turned monitor
on only in response to my contact telling me my audio was garbled. That
said, I initially wondered if the garble was due to frequency drift not
feedback. Though if it was a monitor
Turn down TX Monitor volume.
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> On Feb 5, 2020, at 5:23 AM, Richard Corfield
> wrote:
>
> I had issues with RF feedback on the MH3 during the UKAC SSB 2m contest
> last night. It seemed intermittent. Result was terrible noise in Monitor
> output (my
I had issues with RF feedback on the MH3 during the UKAC SSB 2m contest
last night. It seemed intermittent. Result was terrible noise in Monitor
output (my headphones) and to the other station, so it affects the audio
input. With experiments at the time and this morning:
- Occurs when RF
I might suggest that folks do not neglect that the RF may be getting into
the keyboard, causing its microcontroller to crash. Remember that we live
in an "Everything is a computer" world.
- Brendon
KK6AYI
On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Jim Brown
wrote:
> Good
Good advice, Kevin, especially winding as many turns as practical. I
wouldn't add the extension unless a choke without it didn't solve the
problem.
73, Jim K9YC
On 11/26/2017 8:52 AM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote:
The mix of the toroid's used does matter. Mix 31 is best.
Here is what I did
ideals
Gerald
From: Kevin Stover, AC0H
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:54 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF feedback problems with P3 and external keyboard
The mix of the toroid's used does matter. Mix 31 is best.
Here is what I did with a USB mouse.
I bought four mix
The mix of the toroid's used does matter. Mix 31 is best.
Here is what I did with a USB mouse.
I bought four mix 31 snapon's and installed two 18 inches back from the
mouse and another pair 18 inches back from the connector, winding as
many turns as would fit. I bought a USB extension cable
with your P3 issue.
73,
Alan. G4GNX
-Original Message-
From: ANDY NEHAN
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 8:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] RF feedback problems with P3 and external keyboard
After LOTS of experimentation I think I have found that just recently I have
After LOTS of experimentation I think I have found that just recently I have
some RF feedback into the usb keyboard on the rear of the P3. This manifests
itself particularly badly with the Genovation keyboard but is also present with
a standard usb keyboard. Oddly enough it is MUCH worse when
In looking back at my original post..I omitted the word NOT.
Thus "all PL-259 connectors are not all created equal".
Sorry folks, and thanks Jim for catching the over site.
73
Bob, K4TAX
On 8/8/2017 12:42 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 8/7/2017 3:06 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
PL-259
On 8/7/2017 3:06 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
PL-259 connectors are all created equal.
This is definitely NOT true. There are as many cheap knock-offs as there
are cheap factories and cheap vendors. There are tolerances on diameters
of the center pin and center receptacle, there are
A comment on tuners. The SWR and associated increased loss remains the same on
the feed line regardless of the action of the tuner.When using a tuner, the
load only looks better to the transmitter and the tuner presents added overall
loss.
Reflected power is not totally lost power. Only
Concur on suspecting cables as first step for most problems. Also
suspect the meter that measures the signal/voltage/current/etc. Or
other items in the line.
I ran into a similar issue using an antenna tuner on 2m. I had just
put up a 11-element yagi (not real high but equivalent to the
Just as a comment. PL-259 connectors are all created equal. Some are
great looking connectors and are just pure crap! The plating makes for
good looks but poor performance.
To that end, I always and every time snug my PL-259 connectors with a
pair of 4" Channel Lock pliers. Finger tight
Jim -
I recently sent my K3 to the 'Mother Ship' for some upgrades while my wife
and I took a 3 week road trip. I hooked up the returned rig over the
weekend. Much to my chagrin, I was extremely high SWR. I verified that I
had the RF path correct from the K3 through assorted other devices and to
On 8/6/2017 5:25 PM, David F. Reed wrote:
It was a connection to my coax switch; take it out of line, it goes
away. re-connected, it comes back. Cleaned the connections and
reconnected, it is gone.
Many years ago, a very smart guy said something it the effect that with
any problems with TX
Great news; found it!
It was a connection to my coax switch; take it out of line, it goes
away. re-connected, it comes back. Cleaned the connections and
reconnected, it is gone.
Hurrah!
73 de Dave, W5SV
On 8/6/17 12:12, Mike Flowers wrote:
Good to find the root cause. Fix will be an
Make sure you have not accidentally enabled Ant 2 on the KXPA100.
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Mike, it is clean on a dummy load; I guess I need to track down if I
have lost my ground somewhere, or find the feedback path...
73 de Dave, W5SV
On 8/6/17 00:13, Mike Flowers wrote:
Hi Dave,
Have you tried this using a dummy load? May be useful to eliminate RFI as a
cause.
-- Mike
This did not used to happen; it is new to my set-up, nothing I am aware
of has changed...
When trying to operate JT65, if I set the power to 10 watts, everything
is fine (KXPA100 is not active).
If I set to anything above 10 watts (yeah, like 11 watts or more), I get
bad RF feedback (sounds
assistance is greatly appreciated.
James K2QI
-Original Message-
From: Monty Shultes [mailto:mon...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:11 AM
To: K2QI
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF feedback?
James,
Is the wattmeter between the SB220 and antenna or between the rig
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:44:00 -0400, K2QI wrote:
I am curious though; your previous email mentioned rectification of audio in
the wattmeter, feedline or antenna.
As noted, one or more good common mode chokes are in order. You mentioned the
lack of a station ground. That is a lightning safety
Hi Monty,
I too have assumed that RF from the antenna was causing the issue, but why
can't I recreate the problem when transmitting a constant carrier?
The behavior of this phenomenon is strange to say the least. What usually
happens is the SWR alarm will activate upon initial keydown in SSB
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the reply. I have not noticed any power fluctuations or
increases in reflected power during the alarm event.
Antenna system is a Tarheel 100A screwdriver mounted on a tripod on my
balcony. The balcony is about 40 feet away from the station. The antenna
is fed with good
Hi Myles,
The microphone is the stock Elecraft hand mic. There is nothing betwen the
microphone and the rig. I'm home now and doing some more tests and noticed
something odd.
Upon initial keydown in SSB with the amp on and the K3 set to 50w, I'll get
a forward reading on the wattmeter anywhere
Don, if that were the case wouldn't this problem manifest itself during a
constant carrier keydown, and not just in SSB mode?
Anyway, just to eliminate the feedline I took the dummy load outside and
connected the antenna feedline directly to it. I was previously using a
patch cable from the meter
Well, at this point it looks like it may have something to do with the meter
itself. I turned off the peak function and now it works fine without the
alarm going off; even with it set to 1.5:1. Turning the peak function back
on, and blam... alarms galore.
James K2QI
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:26:15 -0400, K2QI wrote:
Antenna system is a Tarheel 100A screwdriver mounted on a tripod on my
balcony. The balcony is about 40 feet away from the station. The antenna
is fed with good quality Times Microwave LMR-400UF. The last 20 feet of it
were wound into a common
James,
I did not mean to imply (or state) that the coax was any problem. The
real problem is that you are driving very high power into a small
antenna, and you have not provided a good RF Ground at the base of that
antenna. The net result is that you have high level RF floating on most
.
James K2QI
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:13 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF feedback?
You're running 1.1kW to a screwdriver with essentially
I've noticed that I get some sort of RF feedback spike when using the SB-220
and keying up in sideband mode. It's enough to trip my SWR alarm in my
wattmeter. What is odd is that it doesn't happen on keydown CW. The
problem also gets worse when keying up in sideband mode with mic gain turned
The way I explain it is to say
If your roof leaks only when it rains, do you blame the rain or the roof?
David
G3UNA
A PR problem exists here. It is difficult to get a consumer to understand
why his brand new (whatever) is malfunctioning. The problem happens only
when you transmit,
On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:31:57 -0800, Jack Regan wrote:
I let you know the grounding works out.
It's NOT about grounding. But matters a LOT about how you connect
cable shields. Yes, the K3 has a Pin 1 problem. Read about it in the
tutorials below. Free, no cookies, no advertising.
I'm running the K3 with an Ameritron AL800 and a Steppir 3 element
with 40m dipole add-on. I have a severe though intermittent feedback
problem on 40m that I did not have with an Icom 751a. The feedback
only occurs when I'm using the amp (even with very low drive). I've
common core choked
Richard S. Lindzen wrote:
I'm running the K3 with an Ameritron AL800 and a Steppir 3 element with
40m dipole add-on. I have a severe though intermittent feedback problem
on 40m that I did not have with an Icom 751a. The feedback only occurs
when I'm using the amp (even with very low drive).
In a message dated 12/5/2008 9:05:02 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm running the K3 with an Ameritron AL800 and a Steppir 3 element
with 40m dipole add-on. I have a severe though intermittent feedback
problem on 40m that I did not have with an Icom 751a. The
Dick,
I have an 811-H connected to my K3 running 500 to 600 watts cw. I have
problems that might be similar to yours. I get loud, fuzzy, cw tones on
both my noise canceling head phones my external speakers. Both these items
are powered devices. One by a wall wart and one by an AAA battery.
Gentlemen -
No amount of adding low-pass filters, inserting antenna tuners,
grounding your set, etc. will clear up these problems. Don't let
anyone tell you different. Facts is facts, and that's that.
While all these steps are good things to do, and follow what is commonly
known as
- Original Message -
From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Richard S. Lindzen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF feedback
There is a so-called pin 1 problem in the K3's mic input
circuitry. The fix
- From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Richard S. Lindzen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RF feedback
There is a so-called pin 1 problem in the K3's mic input
circuitry. The fix is to jumper L4 on the front panel
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