[Elecraft] best ultralightweight beach vertical?

2004-08-23 Thread wayne burdick
I was using a KX1 at the beach yesterday, with a Maldol 4-foot whip, 
and found myself wishing I had a longer radiator for beach outings. I'd 
like a multi-section or telescoping vertical that's 8 to 10' long, 0.5 
or smaller in diameter, and most important, weighs just a few ounces. 
In a perfect world it would also come with a stake to plant in the 
sand. It doesn't even have to be resonant, since I can use the KX1's 
internal tuner, supplemented if necessary by a small coil interposed 
between the rig and the antenna, to tune the antenna on all three 
bands. This would make for instant band change without fussing with a 
tap or swapping loading coils. A nonresonant whip would also probably 
be a lot lighter and less expensive than backpacking-style antennas 
that are packaged with per-band coils, etc.


Anyone know of a vertical that meets the above requirements?

Tnx,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] best ultralightweight beach vertical?

2004-08-23 Thread Bob Tellefsen
Wayne
Pickup one of the 20' Black Widow fishing poles, around $20 last time
I looked.  I have two, and they are great for general purpose antenna
tinkering.

You can suspend a wire vertical on one, or use it as the center support
for an endfed half wave.  There's a whole range of antenna possibilities
with these.  Your imagination is the only limit.

73, Bob N6WG

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Re: [Elecraft] best ultralightweight beach vertical?

2004-08-23 Thread Vic Rosenthal

wayne burdick wrote:


Anyone know of a vertical that meets the above requirements?


Get a 16-foot Black Widow (etc.) fishing pole and take it apart, using 
only the topmost sections.


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73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco


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Re: [Elecraft] best ultralightweight beach vertical?

2004-08-23 Thread Michael Harris
G'day,

How about carbon fibre fishing rod blanks.  Ordinary glass fibre would
work with a flex weave conductor threaded up it with about 10-15cm
sticking out of the top so that the sections can be parted and folded into
a bundle.

Could even be used as a fishing pole.

Someone else will have come up with the stake

Regards,

Mike VP8NO



 like a multi-section or telescoping vertical that's 8 to 10' long, 0.5
 or smaller in diameter, and most important, weighs just a few ounces.
 In a perfect world it would also come with a stake to plant in the
 sand. It doesn't even have to be resonant, since I can use the KX1's
 internal tuner, supplemented if necessary by a small coil interposed
 between the rig and the antenna, to tune the antenna on all three
 bands. This would make for instant band change without fussing with a
 tap or swapping loading coils. A nonresonant whip would also probably
 be a lot lighter and less expensive than backpacking-style antennas
 that are packaged with per-band coils, etc.


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Re: [Elecraft] best ultralightweight beach vertical?

2004-08-23 Thread Joe - aa4nn
It's old stuff but there's the fiberglass crappie fishing poles by South
Bend at Wal-Mart, one 10' another 15'.  Lash a wire to it and stick the butt
end into the sand.  10' model telescopes to 46.25 and is 5 oz.  15' model
telescopes to 40.5 and is 8 oz.  While these poles will hold up a wire it's
too bad they aren't strong enough for surf fishing during a time when the
bands might be closed.
73, Joe, aa4nn



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Re: [Elecraft] best ultralightweight beach vertical?

2004-08-23 Thread brianb


I was using a KX1 at the beach yesterday, with a Maldol 4-foot whip, 
and found myself wishing I had a longer radiator for beach outings. 
I'd like a multi-section or telescoping vertical that's 8 to 10' long, 
0.5 or smaller in diameter, and most important, weighs just a few 
ounces. In a perfect world it would also come with a stake to plant in 
the sand. It doesn't even have to be resonant, since I can use the 
KX1's internal tuner, supplemented if necessary by a small coil 
interposed between the rig and the antenna, to tune the antenna on all 
three bands. This would make for instant band change without fussing 
with a tap or swapping loading coils. A nonresonant whip would also 
probably be a lot lighter and less expensive than backpacking-style 
antennas that are packaged with per-band coils, etc.



Wayne,

May I suggest you take a surfboard to the beach and leave the KX1 at 
home ? Well, if not here is a link to materials I find useful for 
construction of ultra lite antenna's. These are carbon fiber and can be 
telescoped, and I am sure you are aware that you will need to parallel 
them with copper wire/foil to not let them become part of the radiation 
path.  I use these for spreaders and supports for back packing/biking 
trips (see spreader at 40m antenna base 40-10_vert 
http://brianboschma.com/boundarypeak/antenna.jpg), a bit pricey but 
the weight is right.   kitebuilder.com http://www.kitebuilder.com/catalog/


Brian n6iz



Anyone know of a vertical that meets the above requirements?

Tnx,
Wayne
N6KR

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