Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2005-01-04 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Thank you! Yes, this is commercial Mu Metal shielding, but no the same brand. The magnetic permeability is 1,000,000 and it can be bent. See the link to lessemf.com in the original message for purchase info. I got $5 worth. It is fun stuff. Leigh. On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 3:23 pm, Stuart Rohre

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2005-01-04 Thread Stuart Rohre
Aluminum foil has very slight magnetic shielding, but there is commercial mu metal foil that is very expensive but very good. Thin sheet metal is cheaper and more readily found. Check it with a magnet to see if it will work as magnetic shield. If magnet sticks it is steel or ferrous (shield

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2005-01-03 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr.
] To: A Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:01:47 -0600 Hello Allen, My guess is that magnetic fields from power transformers are either 1) being picked up by L30, or 2) that the magnetic fields are going through

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2005-01-03 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Thanks! The foil is supposed to have be very good for magnetic shielding and so I thought I would try it, as it is small and light enough that it could be put inaide the rig if it works. I will report when I try it on L30. Leigh. On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 6:53 pm, Stuart Rohre wrote: Leigh, most of

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2005-01-03 Thread Stuart Rohre
Leigh, most of your coupling may be magnetic, if shielding did not reduce the RFI. You might want to experiment with steel shim stock or even tinplate from cans. The easiest fix is distance: Moving the rig away from magnetic and electric field sources of transformers as you have found. GL,

RE: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-03 Thread Masleid, Michael A.
Hello Allen, My guess is that magnetic fields from power transformers are either 1) being picked up by L30, or 2) that the magnetic fields are going through the cores of L30 and/or T5, and modulating the effective permeabilities of these cores. This will cause a modulation of inductance, and

RE: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-03 Thread A Walker
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:01:47 -0600 Hello Allen, My guess is that magnetic fields from power transformers are either 1) being picked up by L30, or 2) that the magnetic fields are going through the cores of L30 and/or T5, and modulating the effective

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-02 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 11/1/04 8:36:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cannot help but note that the venerable Kenwood TS-930S and TS-940S rigs had their big hunk of a power transformer mounted right next to the PLL section - and no hum problems were apparent, and it was

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-02 Thread Vic Rosenthal
Fraser Robertson wrote: Interesting - I had complaint on air recently of having a wide CW carrier when using a tube linear about two feet from the K2/100. I do NOT have the problem (and I've had people listen carefully for it) with an Alpha 86 at full power located 4 feet from the K2. For

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-02 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Fraser, G4BJM wrote: Interesting - I had complaint on air recently of having a wide CW carrier when using a tube linear about two feet from the K2/100. == Exactly the problem. Rather than hum, it sounds like noise on the sidebands of the signal -- becoming less broad as the distance

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-02 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Thanks for the mu metal info, Stuart. If Eric and Wayne don't come out with a mod for it, I'll try that. 73, de Earl, K6SE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr.

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-01 Thread Jim Wiley
This belongs in the For What Its Worth file: I cannot help but note that the venerable Kenwood TS-930S and TS-940S rigs had their big hunk of a power transformer mounted right next to the PLL section - and no hum problems were apparent, and it was NOT a toroidal type transformer, just a

Re: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-01 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Jim, KL7CC wrote: So, maybe the problem [hum getting into the K2's PLL] could be worth another look, as in maybe there is another way to solve it? Could something be done to the K2 itself to make it immune to this problem? == Hum coupling from the K2's power supply xfmr is not much of a

Re: [Elecraft] Hum coupling?

2004-10-30 Thread Don Brown
Hi The K2 is susceptible to hum pick up. You must keep all sources of AC magnetic fields at least 3 feet away from the K2 or the VFO will be modulated by the hum. This has been noted many times here on the reflector. Even a high intensity lamp too close to the K2 was a problem. Do not stack

Re: [Elecraft] Hum coupling? - A real fix!

2004-10-29 Thread Hank Kohl K8DD
At 10/29/2004 10:16 AM, Tom Hammond wrote: Supplies with big trnasformers, or even small ones carrying high current, can/will often cause hum on the K2. Best to space them a distance away. Switchers probably won't induce hum, but might cause in-band birdies by virtue of their switching

Re: [Elecraft] Hum coupling? - A real fix!

2004-10-29 Thread Daniel Reynolds
Actually - after toasting my internal KBT2 by overcharging with an uncontrolled solar panel (hint hint... words for the wise) - I bought a $50 MityMite 12Ah battery/charger from Autozone. I plug it in to charge when I'm not on the air, and then I unplug the charging cord, and turn on the radio and

Re: [Elecraft] Hum coupling?

2004-10-29 Thread Stuart Rohre
The bottom line on placement of rigs to avoid hum for Elecraft, or any other brand, is to place the transformers and switchers as far from the rigs as possible within reason. Use twisted pair leads from DC supplies external to the rigs, and shield them if possible. Alternatively (and at great

Re: [Elecraft] Hum coupling?

2004-10-28 Thread Stuart Rohre
Actually, Tom switching supplies may have a worse coupling effect since they have an oscillator going at higher frequency than the power line, in addition to power line 60 Hz. And, even coupling of RF between Tuner and Radio can happen. At a Field Day one time, a tuner was placed on a Yaesu

RE: [Elecraft] Hum coupling?

2004-10-28 Thread Brian Mury
I have an Astron 20 amp for my K2/100 and it sits on a stool UNDER the operating table. That keeps the table clear for other things and keeps the AC magnetic field out of the K2. I've also got an Astron 20 amp supply that lives under the desk. You forgot to mention that it also makes a nice