Now that the K-Pod is shipping, when will we see support for the KX3 (via
the PX3)?
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Typically, how long after an Elecraft product first ships are the schematics
published?
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Hi Luke,
I assume you've discovered your last two posts, "KX2 Battery Charger / Power
Supply" and "KX2 Firmware Suggestions", don't have any content (i.e., no
body).
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No need to apologize, Eric. I'll just need to be content with my "tricked
out" Griffin PowerMate,
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I know you're familiar with the PowerMate. ;-)
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[js] I have a proposal to integrate the K-Pod with the PX3 as a HID (Human
Interface Device), building on the existing keyboard HID support. This
approach greatly simplifies the K-Pod firmware. This HID-based approach
will also work with
owing when the K-Pod will support the KX3 (via the
PX3). :-)
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the
default name in importing a text message / macro file.
I'm excited to see the text message / macro file is in text format. Has
anyone developed a PC-based utility to manage the text message / macro file?
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tly) user-definable / programmable.
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meone please
measure its CPR (Counts Per Revolution)? Set the VFO A rate to 1 Hz, note
the VFO A frequency and rotate the knob / encoder 360 degrees. The CPR
corresponds to the increase / decrease in frequency (in Hz).
Much appreciated.
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ed (after 500 ms) ... neither of
which are currently supported.
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Hi Enzo,
I'd recommend that you look at some of the Raspberry Pi / Elecraft KX3
panadapters,
http://twitter.com/giorgiofox/status/694969541521207296
https://github.com/Giorgiofox/panadapter
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This may help in weighing your options,
E100403 / KX3 Bezel, $27.24
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> I would like to know the dimension of the Li-Ion package: Height, width
> and length?
19.5 mm x 70.7 mm x 56.3 mm
> How long is the power cable inclusive 2.1mm plug?
122 mm
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You can write eight macros to the KX3 using the KX3 Utility. How do you
execute a KX3 macro short of assigning it to the PF1 or PF2 switch? Is
there a remote control command to execute a KX3 macro?
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ons:
B1: ;#QSY1;
Knob:
CW: ;UP;
FCW: ;#MAA+;
CC: ;DN;
FCC: ;#MAA-;
If someone could test the new PX3 #MAA and #MBA commands using the PigKnob
that would be great. I'm sure Nick will clean up my PigKnob syntax.
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s scenario, the K-Pod programmable switches are definitely secondary.
Not to mention the fact (as I understand it), the K-Pod won't control the P3
markers.
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recognize the K-Pod as a human interface device such as a keyboard or
mouse."
The HID protocol is well-defined.
For now, let's see if we can get Elecraft to share the interface / protocol
between the K-Pod and K3 / K3s.
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I'm not asking Elecraft to "open source" the K-Pod firmware. I'm asking
Elecraft to publish the interface / protocol specification (not firmware)
between the K-Pod and the K3 / K3s.
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Thanks, Bill. That's exactly what Rick is seeing. The K-Pod is essentially
functioning as a 50-PPR quadrature encoder, rather than a 100-PPR quadrature
encoder. Let's see what Elecraft has to say.
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What are other K-Pod owners seeing? The K-Pod uses the same 100-PPR
quadrature optical encoder as the K3. You should see 400 counts per
revolution with VFO CTS set to 400.
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when this list was created and have been
tested with the PX3/P3SVGA"
This is a (very) small sample of the supported keyboards. The key is "2.4
GHz wireless" and NOT "bluetooth". I wouldn't be surprised that an Apple
keyboard does not work.
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compact keyboards. 2.4 GHz wireless is clearly falling out of favor.
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here,
http://wickedstone.com/KF5WBO/PX3/PX3_software.htm
Simply download and unzip the file to the desired directory. Refer to Help.
The Utility works with PX3 firmware 1.45 or later.
Please E-mail me privately if you're interested.
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Currently, macros are associated with the trailing edge of a programmable
switch. What you're proposing is an option through which a macro (SWT16;)
could be associated with the leading edge (and the trailing edge) of a
switch.
I like the idea. Can't hurt to ask Elecraft.
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> It's important that we have visibility not only into features in the
> pipeline, but also proposed features which have been rejected.
Why?
[js] {hypothetically} I have an idea for a new feature, P3 mouse support.
Before proposing the feature on the Elecraft mailing list, I first go to the
> There may be a technical implementation problem for Elecraft.
> The last time I paid attention, the P3 didn't support USB hubs.
> They would need hub support to use both a mouse and
> keyboard at the same time.
This assumes the keyboard and mouse have separate / dedicated 2.4 GHz
wireless
It would be nice if we could track Elecraft feature requests in a more
structured manner. The same feature requests come up over and over again.
We often hear, "Elecraft will never develop feature X unless N users ask for
the feature." Rather than having subscribers respond to the Elecraft
> Why limit it just to list subscribers? Surely there are those out there who
> may want a specific feature, but are not part of this list and don't wish
> to
> be (for whatever reason) but may still own an Elecraft item?
1. I'm trying to reduce spam. 2. I'm looking for an element of
There's tremendous commonality between the P3 and PX3 code base. The same
will be true for your P3x. Mouse support is trivial. I'd simply push for
mouse support in conjunction with the P3 / PX3. You'll get it for "free"
with your P3x.
Support for a gaming mouse is more involved. All of the
Paul Saffren (N6HZ) can help us understand why we still haven't seen
Mouse-n-Click QSY support for the P3 and PX3.
If you use a 2.4 GHz wireless dongle which supports both a keyboard and a
mouse, the HID report sent to the P3 / PX3 contains not only the keyboard
information,
struct
When I see Elecraft dodge a trivial firmware change like this year after
year, I can’t help but wonder if they have ulterior motives. Maybe Elecraft
plans to introduce a $250 wired remote control knob. Maybe they hope
someday the knob will control the P3 / PX3. Maybe they feel adding a few
According to the manual, through a future firmware upgrade, the K-Pod will be
able to function as a USB HID (Human Interface Device) such as a keyboard or
mouse. Conceivably, the eight K-Pod tap and hold switches could be mapped
to 16 P3 / PX3 macros. You could even implement three “banks” of 16
For a moment it sounded like the K-Pod was being criticized
[js] I didn’t mean to criticize the K-Pod. I’m simply speculating as to why
Elecraft hasn’t added P3 / PX3 mouse support.
[js] Last time I checked, the K-Pod isn’t capable of functioning as a mouse
(and keyboard). However, according
Let's assume Paul Saffren delivers Mouse-n-Click QSY support with the next P3
/ PX3 firmware release. What else would you like the mouse to do other than
QSY the rig's VFO frequency?
I demonstrated Mouse-n-Click QSY with an Elecraft PX3 and KX3 almost 18
months ago,
Can we get a little more in-depth technical explanation as to why the P3
can't display decoded text on its TFT-LCD display? Neither the P3SVGA nor
PX3 decode text. They simply display text characters already decoded by the
K3 and KX3, respectively. Why can't the P3 write the text decoded by
Hi Wayne,
What's the best way to move a PX3 Internal SVGA Large Screen Adapter up the
priority list? What's the best way to gauge interest? I don't imagine you
want a bunch of "I want one", "Count me in", ... posts to the reflector. Do
we have a polling mechanism (other than through the
Thank you, Wayne. On a related topic ...
What's the history of the PX3SVGA (i.e., an internal SVGA large screen
adapter for the PX3) or lack there of?
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> I'd very much like this function too. This would be my primary use case
> for the KPod
I agree, Bob. Controlling marker A (or marker B) and QSY'ing the rig VFO to
the marker frequency is a primary use case for any remote control panel.
I want to be clear ... porting the #MAA and #MBA
Same here. This is an "undocumented feature" (i.e., firmware bug). Please
E-mail Paul Saffren (psaffren at elecraft dot com).
You can enable and disable text using the "LABELS" (hold) switch. This
won't require a power-cycle to take effect. This is probably easier than
using the menu.
Joe
> For me, having the I/Q on the KX2 would not eliminate need for my KX3.
I agree, Len. In purchasing a KX2 with an RX I/Q output, I'd dedicate my
KX3 to the shack. I'd use the KX2 / PX3 combination in the backyard, on a
picnic table at the park, for camping, day hikes, Field Day, mini
that Elecraft will develop an internal
adapter (i.e., PX3HDMI) to connect a PX3 to a large screen through an HDMI
interface.
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Hi Ray,
That's exactly what I am proposing ... an RX I/Q *option* board (i.e.,
KXIQ2) for the KX2. The KXIQ2 would serve as an alternative to the KXIO2
Real Time Clock option board, replacing the AUX output of the KXIO2 with an
RX I/Q output. As an *option* board, the KXIQ2 wouldn't add to the
Not sure if you own a PX3 or whether a PX3 is appropriate for the type of
portable operation in question, but I think the PX3 MSD (Mass Storage
Device) feature is the closest thing to what you're looking for. You can
save multiple configurations. Unfortunately, the PX3 currently only accepts
a
Hi Ken,
How do your local radio club members use their KX3 + PX3? I don't
understand why they wouldn't be interested in using a KX2 + PX3 in these
same situations (e.g., in the backyard, on a picnic table at the park,
camping, day hikes, Field Day, mini DX-peditions, travel, RVing, ...).
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I've attempted to fold in the feedback thus far. If you haven't already,
please reply to this thread if you're interested in one or both of these new
features.
PX3 TO LARGE SCREEN
Feature #1A (preferred). Elecraft to develop an internal adapter (i.e.,
PX3HDMI) to
connect a PX3 to a
Thank you, Art.
We've been discussing two new features on this thread ...
Feature #1. Elecraft to develop an internal adapter (i.e., PX3SVGA) to
connect a PX3 to an SVGA large screen.
Feature #2. Elecraft (Paul Saffren, N6HZ) to modify the P3 firmware to
write,
* text decoded by the K3, and
reen connected to my PX3 via an HDMI cable?
Absolutely. That's why I proposed the new feature.
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What are the *key* KX3 features which make it more "serious" than a KX2? I'm
not looking for an exhaustive feature comparison. I can find that in the
color brochure. For those who use a KX3 as their primary HF rig at the home
QTH, which features (unique to the KX3) are critical?
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> My only question - does this originate with Elecraft or the reflector?
Reflector.
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> The manufacturer specs for all the Elecraft RTC chips promise much better.
What Elecraft RTC chips are you referring to? The KXBC3 keeps time using a
PIC microcontroller.
> ... a customer does indeed have every right to expect a competent RTC
> implementation when he purchases the
>> Re: "...Tweak the rate a bit each time the clock is set."
>
> Back in early 2013, there was some discussion on the
> Yahoo Group about doing something like that either
> through the Utility, or even a menu entry with "factor"
> that could be adjusted by the user. It never went a
> anywhere
e used with a PX3 for
backyard / picnic table portable operation, travel, ... and, of course, in
using the KX2 as a base station at the home QTH. For hand-held, pedestrian
mobile and ultralight backpacking, I'll leave the PX3 at home and disable
the RX I/Q output in order to save the 10 - 15 mA
What did Elecraft debut at Hamvention?
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> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and SVGA
(first requested August 2009 and once every few months ever since)
The P3/PX3 already supports USB HID (Human Interface Device). The firmware
currently receives and ignores mouse reports.
Note: The K-Pod is
Hi Art,
Did Wayne respond?
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