Re: [Election-Methods] A Better Version of IRV?

2008-07-13 Thread Chris Benham
Forest, The voter ranks all she wants to and the remaining candidates are ranked (later, i.e. below) by the voter's favorite or perhaps, as Steve Eppley has suggested, by the voter's specified public ranking. Since IRV satisfies LNH, what's the harm in this?. The harm is that voter's votes

Re: [Election-Methods] A Better Version of IRV?

2008-07-13 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
I don't see how IRV's failure to elect the Condorcet candidate is necessarily linked to its non-monotonicity. There are monotonic (meets mono-raise) methods that fail Condorcet, and some Condorcet methods that fail mono-raise. (For information: I think Bucklin would be an example of the

Re: [Election-Methods] A Better Version of IRV?

2008-07-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:01 AM 7/13/2008, Chris Benham wrote: Forest, The voter ranks all she wants to and the remaining candidates are ranked (later, i.e. below) by the voter's favorite or perhaps, as Steve Eppley has suggested, by the voter's specified public ranking. Since IRV satisfies LNH, what's the harm

Re: [Election-Methods] Town E-meetings for encouraging group intelligence and working toward consensus

2008-07-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:26 PM 7/12/2008, Terry Bouricius wrote: By raising one-sided objections to any particular reform proposal that is being seriously considered, the net effect is most likely to be to shore up the status quo, rather than to advance one's favored method. If election method experts put their

Re: [Election-Methods] A Better Version of IRV?

2008-07-13 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:37:28 -0400 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 02:01 AM 7/13/2008, Chris Benham wrote: Forest, The voter ranks all she wants to and the remaining candidates are ranked (later, i.e. below) by the voter's favorite or perhaps, as Steve Eppley has suggested, by the voter's