RE: Should Backplanes be passive?

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I think your correct, but any component even passives have lower MTBF's than just copper over FR-4 (although the Printed circuit assemblies do have MTBF figures). Since the backplane is a huge hit time wise to repair or replace you would like to avoid any reason to have to do that if possible.

RE: Should Backplanes be passive?

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I thought the original poster was asking about power filters on the backplane?? Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Email: charles.gra...@echostar.com; Email Alternate: chasgra...@ieee.org

EU Directive for Flame Retardent Plastics

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I am trying to find additional information on Directive 76/769/EEC, 24th Amendment. This Directive indicates that member states shall adopt laws by February 15, 2004 regarding pentaBDE and octaBDE. Further, it indicates that those measures shall be applied from 15 August 2004. I am having

Re: Should Backplanes be passive?

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that David Heald hea...@symbol.com wrote (in s0224346@symbol.com) about 'Should Backplanes be passive?' on Thu, 5 Feb 2004: We designed the backplane from the get-go to accept rear daughtercards for EMI filters, I/O cables/filters, and the like. This allowed for easy

Re: Should Backplanes be passive?

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Wale, There aren't any hard document requirements that I know of but practically this is a bad idea. Putting components (esp EMI filters) on the backplane is generally a bad idea for a few reasons: The first is (as pointed out by Jeff Collins) reliability and availability. You don't want to

Re: Fines for CE non-compliance??

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that brian_ku...@leco.com wrote (in tfscj...@leco.com) about 'Fines for CE non-compliance??' on Wed, 4 Feb 2004: No, I'm not planning on shipping non-CE products to Europe, but I have seem A LOT of products that have the CE marking that there is NO WAY they are compliant.

RE: ESD Gun Manufacturers

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I hear better things about KeyTek (Thermo) Best Regards, Michael Hopkins Manager, EMC Technologies Thermo Electron Corporation Control Technology Division EMC ESD Simulation Solutions One Lowell Research Center Lowell, MA 01852 Tel: +1 978 275 0800 ext. 334 Mobile: +1 603 765 3736

Standards question

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Does anybody have knowledge of this standard: CEN 29.120.30? Regards, Brian Epstein Sr Regulatory Compliance Engineer Veeco Instruments brian.epst...@veeco.com ph (805) 967-2700 ext 2315 fx (805) 967-7717 This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc

RE: Fines for CE non-compliance??

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Hi. You have had several replies already, but I will add a few more comments, which I have embedded below. Best regards, Neil R. Barker C.Eng. MIEE MIEEE MSEE Manager Compliance Engineering e2v technologies ltd 106 Waterhouse Lane Chelmsford Essex CM1 2QU UK Tel: +44 (0)1245 453616 Fax: +44

RE: Acoustics standards for EU

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
For telecom you can see ets 300 753 from ETSI this is a valid european standard for telecom site. Ciao Paolo _ Paolo Gemma Siemens Mobile Communications S.p.A. SMC PG MW ST EMC Safety SS Padana sup. KM 158 20060 Cassina de' Pecchi (MI)

RE: EN 301 751

2004-02-05 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
EN 301 751 contain a list of the test to do on the equipment. For any test there is a link to the specific equipment standards. For example in the 38 GHz band EN 301 751 make direct references to EN 300 197 for the limits used during the test (for frequency tolerance stability point 4.5.1 of 301