Re: [Emc-users] Configuration Wizards

2013-10-09 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I'd like to see pin configurations added for the common Chinese BOBs and all in one driver boards. Right now there's 4 or 5 common ones that come with kits. Some of them likely have the same pin configurations. There's the green 6 axis one that is pretty bare bones with just step/dir outputs

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 10/8/2013 11:04 AM, John Alexander Stewart wrote: Hi all; Over at http://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=88623#1507866 (Model Engineer forums, a thread about reworking a Warco Lathe) are some interesting and honest feedback postings. LinuxCNC works wonderfully, but has

Re: [Emc-users] Extremely confused about axis and home, please help...

2013-10-09 Thread Dave Caroline
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Richard Thornton richie.thorn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So I have one of the Chinese 6040 gantry CNC routers, like this, I have setup the axis as I have indicated in the image: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ochmutxnacs4fo6/6040.JPG The 6040 does not have any

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 10/8/2013 12:18 PM, sam sokolik wrote: so - they want something like this? (thanks cmorley - (even if it was just a proof of concept)... :) ) http://linuxcnc.org/media/kunena/attachments/482/mapped.png http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/41-guis/26174-screen-shots-of-gui-designs

Re: [Emc-users] Configuration Wizards

2013-10-09 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 00:13:29 -0600, you wrote: I'd like to see pin configurations added for the common Chinese BOBs and all in one driver boards. You cant really do that - as you can wire any axis to any of the output pins you like and any input to any input pin. Mach does stipulate that 1-9,

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:30 PM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Oh and I forgot, many use Mark because someone will set up their machine for them and many vendors sell Mark with their products... JT I hate it when they use me like that without any recompense. ;-) Mark

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:18:56 -0500, you wrote: so - they want something like this? (thanks cmorley - (even if it was just a proof of concept)... :) ) http://linuxcnc.org/media/kunena/attachments/482/mapped.png

Re: [Emc-users] Extremely confused about axis and home, please help...

2013-10-09 Thread Richard Thornton
Thanks Dave and Marius! Dave so this is different than table travel from stepconf axis config?: MIN_LIMIT = -1000 - The minimum limit (soft limit) for axis motion, in machine units. When this limit is exceeded, the controller aborts axis motion. MAX_LIMIT = 1000 - The maximum limit (soft limit)

Re: [Emc-users] [PATCH] axis: WIP enable jog functionality when paused

2013-10-09 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.10.13 14:18, dave wrote: On Tue, 2013-10-08 at 14:35 -0300, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: 2013/10/8 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com Select just the text you want to reply to before hitting Reply Ok, it's working now.. I just had it deactivated. Thanks! :) Oh, Thank you

Re: [Emc-users] Extremely confused about axis and home, please help...

2013-10-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 October 2013 06:40, Richard Thornton richie.thorn...@gmail.com wrote: X 0-550 home 275 Y 0-400 home 200 Z 0-60 home 5 Program exceeds machine minimum on axis x Program exceeds machine minimum on axis y Program exceeds machine minimum on axis z Linear move on line 7 would exceed joint

Re: [Emc-users] Extremely confused about axis and home, please help...

2013-10-09 Thread John Thornton
Typically a mill like machine has the machine home up for Z. This means that Z travel goes from 0 to -something. Standing in front of the machine with the X axis perpendicular to you positive movement on the X moves the tool to the right and positive movement on the Y moves the tool away from

Re: [Emc-users] Configuration Wizards

2013-10-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 October 2013 05:37, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: Another (easier I think) way is to have the firmware repo just copy the XML file needed into the required folder. This feels like it should be moderately easy, but needs someone who has access to the Hostmot2 package

Re: [Emc-users] Configuration Wizards

2013-10-09 Thread John Thornton
Silly question but why are the xml files not included in the livecd? JT On 10/8/2013 11:37 PM, Chris Morley wrote: From: bodge...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:59:40 +0100 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Configuration Wizards On 8 October 2013 11:37, John

Re: [Emc-users] Configuration Wizards

2013-10-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 October 2013 07:13, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd like to see pin configurations added for the common Chinese BOBs and all in one driver boards. There are some presets for a few boards defined in line 68 et. seq. here:

Re: [Emc-users] Configuration Wizards

2013-10-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 October 2013 11:33, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Silly question but why are the xml files not included in the livecd? As far as I know no firmware for any third-party driver is included in the LiveCD. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Configuration Wizards

2013-10-09 Thread John Thornton
The xml files would not be firmware or third-party drivers just something pncconf needs to function... JT On 10/9/2013 5:39 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 9 October 2013 11:33, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Silly question but why are the xml files not included in the livecd? As far as I

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Ron Ginger
On 10/9/2013 12:43 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: And to add fuel to the Mach4 fire. They are planning a cost of around $1000 - $2000 for a single seat. This is where they will fall out the bus. It will just become to unaffordable for anyone but very serious users and in my opinion, very serious

Re: [Emc-users] OSADL Project: Real Time Linux Workshops - conference paper on RTAPI/unified build

2013-10-09 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
M.H.: I'm amazed im with Charles comments. Great work! Regards Rick 2013/10/9 Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za: Good luck with your presentation and keep up the good work man, it is really great. On 2013/10/08 10:08 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: this year's OSADL conference:

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 08.10.2013 um 12:41 schrieb Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at: Am 08.10.2013 um 09:07 schrieb Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net: On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 11:19:39 +0200, you wrote: Reminds me - must be able to toggle spindle off/on during pause. thats a good point, that would

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Charles Buckley
I was at a Mini Maker Faire this past weekend. Had 3000 people attend. Of the 1000, or so, who stopped by our booth which had 5 milling machines, I don't think more than a dozen were machinists or had an interest in learning to be machinists. What was common - extremely common - were people

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Charles; I did that last August 30 /September 1 long weekend in Ottawa Canada. I had a little CNC'd Unimat lathe running LinuxCNC. Not actually throwing swarf, but just axes moving. Generally: 1) People under 30 knew about the computerization but said what's that machine supposed to do? 2)

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Charles; I did that last August 30 /September 1 long weekend in Ottawa Canada. I had a little CNC'd Unimat lathe running LinuxCNC. Generally: 1) People under 30 knew about the computerization but said what's that machine supposed to do? 2) People over 30 either had a Unimat when they were

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Dave Cole
You can thank the de-industrialization of the High School shops for that! The educational idiots in this country bought into the idea that Manufacturing has no future. Now, everytime I visit a machine shop, I get the same question... Do you know any good machinists looking for work?? Recently

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Dave Cole
I have never heard anyone say more than $200 for hobby users.. . and $1000 for a really good industrial version is generally not a problem IF there is sufficient reason to use it over LinuxCNC or some other CNC software system. But if you can't get it, does it matter?? NO! LinuxCNC,

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Ron Bean
The educational idiots in this country bought into the idea that Manufacturing has no future. Now, everytime I visit a machine shop, I get the same question... Do you know any good machinists looking for work?? To be fair, that was pretty much true for people just coming out of school at the

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Charles Buckley
That matches what I saw to a large extent. We had to translate what they knew about 3D printing and computers to milling. Although, as the day went on, our demographics started skewing older. The working theory for that is that the 20-year olds loved the technology. The older ones loved making

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Eric Keller
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Charles Buckley rijrun...@gmail.com wrote: But, yeah.. we gave out over 200 business cards - over 10% of the adults of the Faire - and they all wanted appliance like behavior. I think a lot of us would want appliance-like behavior. The problem is the user

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 October 2013 16:50, Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu wrote: I think a lot of us would want appliance-like behavior. The problem is the user base of lcnc to date all seem to have weird requirements. My requirements are not weird at all, but as for the rest of you, they certainly are. -- atp

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Dave Caroline
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:55 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 October 2013 16:50, Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu wrote: I think a lot of us would want appliance-like behavior. The problem is the user base of lcnc to date all seem to have weird requirements. My requirements are not

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:55 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 October 2013 16:50, Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu wrote: I think a lot of us would want appliance-like behavior. The problem is the user base of lcnc to date all seem to have weird requirements. My requirements are not

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 09 October 2013 12:09:43 Dave Caroline did opine: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:55 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 October 2013 16:50, Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu wrote: I think a lot of us would want appliance-like behavior. The problem is the user base of lcnc to

[Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC.

2013-10-09 Thread RINDERT SCHUTTEN
So I recently got my second CNC machine for my small business. The first machine was a DIY kit, and (obviously) I used EMC on Ubuntu. Got the CD, installed it on my old PC went through the stepconf wizard, and it ran! Since then have created lots of Gcode and products. I said obviously,

[Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal - please review planned sequencing

2013-10-09 Thread Michael Haberler
please think through if this sequence sounds generally applicable, and consider my questions below. the current flow I am thinking of is this: pause sequence: - if running, and pause command is issued: save the position where pause was detected as initial-pause-position

[Emc-users] accuracy problems

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Reynolds
I've been having some accuracy problems and I'll admit I've never fully understood all of the settings in the .ini file. But I'm getting some strange things going on that I just can't seem to fix. Such as, setting an axis to 0, then in MDI sending it to 1, it might come up .0015 short of 1, but

Re: [Emc-users] accuracy problems

2013-10-09 Thread andy pugh
On 10 October 2013 01:44, Chris Reynolds c_reynolds2...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been having some accuracy problems and I'll admit I've never fully understood all of the settings in the .ini file. But I'm getting some strange things going on that I just can't seem to fix. Such as, setting an

Re: [Emc-users] JogWhilePaused Proposal - please review planned sequencing

2013-10-09 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 10/09/2013 02:02 PM, Michael Haberler wrote: please think through if this sequence sounds generally applicable, and consider my questions below. the current flow I am thinking of is this: pause sequence: - if running, and pause command is issued: save the position

Re: [Emc-users] accuracy problems

2013-10-09 Thread Dave Caroline
Not only is the error cumulative but is it regular, measure a large number of points all in one direction for as long a distance as possible. then graph the error v distance you should then see a pattern emerging scale error will be a slope screw error could be a wavy line you can also get a