Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2024-02-23 Thread gene heskett
pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: September-08-22 1:08 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 07:43, wrote: Would a Tormach with PathPilot allow me to drop into programming mode easily? I would expect so, the G-code is exactly the same (

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-10 Thread John Dammeyer
2. John > -Original Message- > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > Sent: September-09-22 6:39 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > I did a little video where I made a charge pump to work with one of t

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-10 Thread John Dammeyer
2. John > -Original Message- > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > Sent: September-09-22 6:39 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > I did a little video where I made a charge pump to work with one of t

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread Chris Albertson
Clearly, hobby users are not the target market. I think Autodesk figured this out. They give the product away to hobby users and students but charge about $500 to those who want to buy support. No one who is making money with your product wants to depend on a web forum or an e-mail list for sup

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread Feral Engineer
Hobby users barely even want to pay for the motors to run the damn machines😆 Phil T. The Feral Engineer Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer Help support my channel efforts and coffee addiction: www.patreon.com/theferalengineer O

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread Bari
On 9/9/22 13:15, Chris Albertson wrote: So If I were to start a CNC machine related business today. I'd design a turnkey system, PCBs and all and place the design online. Hobby users could download it and have the parts made. Those with more money than skill could hire me as a consultant. I'

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread Chris Albertson
> > I don't know how anyone > makes a living in electronics manufacturing given the low price > expectations of the modern world. I gave up on it more than 10 years ago The way you make money today in electronics is in design and services. Manufacturing brings you only a few dollars per unit. But

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread Sam Sokolik
I did a little video where I made a charge pump to work with one of those cheap BOBs... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RErLu73-Xno On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 8:00 AM wrote: > On 2022-09-09 07:19, m...@mattshaver.com wrote: > > > I am in awe of Den-Mother Steve for his ability to make good > > qual

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread matt
On 2022-09-09 07:19, m...@mattshaver.com wrote: I am in awe of Den-Mother Steve for his ability to make good quality electronic stuff at a reasonable price! Oops! just realized this was emc-users, not the CAMS list (Chesapeake Area Metalworking Society http://www.cams-club.org/). I was trying

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread matt
On 2022-09-09 02:05, Chris Albertson wrote: The PCB indstry has a "standard" file format, like g-code. They call it "Gerber files" the best free software is KiCAD. The "photo" in the above link is actually a render made by KiCAD before the part was manufactured. It is easy to do really bas

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread matt
On 2022-09-08 16:59, Chris Albertson wrote: But I was thinking, Now that we have companies like JLCPCB who can make printed circuit boards and solder components for well under $1 per PCB, I would not want to be in the business of making and selling small electronic devices. I would design

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 11:05, gene heskett wrote: > A very good writeup, something I would definitely do if I had need for > qty's >1. I frequently have 5 boards made for one-offs. Proper boards with screen print and solder resist are just so much nicer. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread gene heskett
On 9/9/22 03:10, Chris Albertson wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 7:04 PM gene heskett wrote: On 9/8/22 18:03, Chris Albertson wrote: A very good writeup, something I would definitely do if I had need for qty's >1. Most of what I do is one offs. Thank you for a detailed answer. Cheers, Gene He

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-09 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 7:04 PM gene heskett wrote: > On 9/8/22 18:03, Chris Albertson wrote: > > I did not know about these. Thanks so much for posting. So, after the > > software stops cycling the output pins, the 10 uf cap discharges through > > 750 Ohm the opto-isolator's LED and the relay

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread gene heskett
On 9/8/22 18:03, Chris Albertson wrote: I did not know about these. Thanks so much for posting. So, after the software stops cycling the output pins, the 10 uf cap discharges through 750 Ohm the opto-isolator's LED and the relay opens. I will have to calculate the time delay, but my back o

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread Chris Albertson
I did not know about these. Thanks so much for posting. So, after the software stops cycling the output pins, the 10 uf cap discharges through 750 Ohm the opto-isolator's LED and the relay opens. I will have to calculate the time delay, but my back of the envelope says about 0.02 seconds. I

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread gene heskett
On 9/8/22 13:10, John Dammeyer wrote: I didn't see anything on the Acorn that suggests it supports a Charge Pump to protect the system if the PC goes bye-bye. For that matter, small survey question here, how many people running LinuxCNC are actually using a Charge Pump for safety? John I was

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread matt
On 2022-09-08 15:55, andy pugh wrote: I rely on the Mesa watchdog. If I was running a system that couldn't do that then I would start looking t watchdog circuits, though last time I looked I didn't see anything that simply opened a relay if the charge pump stopped. I actually make this: http:/

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 18:09, John Dammeyer wrote: > For that matter, small survey question here, how many people running > LinuxCNC are actually using a Charge Pump for safety? I rely on the Mesa watchdog. If I was running a system that couldn't do that then I would start looking t watchdog c

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 20:07, Martin Dobbins wrote: > > It is said that a picture is worth a thousand words > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-LrJtVN0bo I had thought that there was a live preview. It looks like we already have conversational lathe, if the Tormach approach counts: https://for

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread Martin Dobbins
s our standard user interface with G-Code loaded. Since I'm > > limited on attachment size I'll follow > up with another posting that shows the problem. But notice this isn't a wide > 1080P type wide screen monitor. > > > > John > > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread John Dammeyer
From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: September-08-22 1:08 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 07:43, wrote: > > > Would a Tormach with PathPilot allow me to drop into programming mode >

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread John Dammeyer
Thanks Peter. John > -Original Message- > From: Groups [mailto:gro...@homanndesigns.com] > Sent: September-08-22 1:54 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > Hi John, > > PathPilot has a lot of similarities with Mac

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 12:01 PM gene heskett wrote: > On 9/8/22 09:10, Mark Wendt wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:07 AM gene heskett > wrote: > > > >> There is your first mistake GEDIT. It will eventually play 52 pickup > >> with your code. I banned it from > >> any system here years ago, Sw

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread gene heskett
On 9/8/22 09:10, Mark Wendt wrote: On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:07 AM gene heskett wrote: There is your first mistake GEDIT. It will eventually play 52 pickup with your code. I banned it from any system here years ago, Switched to geany as a nearly work alike, and have not had a single instance of

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 14:36, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > Same.. I have used whatever gui editor is installed.. (gedit, mousepad, > whatever) No weird behaviour.. (when not using nano for system files.. ;) One reason not to install Gedit on Debian is that it pulls in most of the Gnome desktop as a

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread Mark Wendt
Sam, Yeah, but I'm also a proponent of vi as well, having used that editor since the late 80's. ;-) Mark On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 9:36 AM Sam Sokolik wrote: > Same.. I have used whatever gui editor is installed.. (gedit, mousepad, > whatever) No weird behaviour.. (when not using nano for sy

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread Sam Sokolik
Same.. I have used whatever gui editor is installed.. (gedit, mousepad, whatever) No weird behaviour.. (when not using nano for system files.. ;) ) On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:10 AM Mark Wendt wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:07 AM gene heskett wrote: > > > > > There is your first mistake GED

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread Mark Wendt
On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 8:07 AM gene heskett wrote: > > There is your first mistake GEDIT. It will eventually play 52 pickup > with your code. I banned it from > any system here years ago, Switched to geany as a nearly work alike, and > have not had a single > instance of gibberish that I didn't t

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread gene heskett
On 9/8/22 02:42, marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Using LinuxCNC, I have a set of self-written wizards/demons in a folder. Start LinuxCNC; load the demon I need; use GEDIT to set the user values of, say, Xwidth, Ybreadth, tool diameter. There is your first mistake GEDIT. It will event

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread Groups
hris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] Sent: September-07-22 12:22 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC And for a simpler operating like surfacing something held in the vise or clamped to the table there's an approach like the attached photo or must

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-08 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 07:43, wrote: > Would a Tormach with PathPilot allow me to drop into programming mode > easily? I would expect so, the G-code is exactly the same (other than, possibly, different handing of T in lathe mode) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread marcus . bowman
ssage- From: John Dammeyer Sent: September 7, 2022 6:29 PM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC Awesome. A Tormach user! OK. Say I have an aluminum plate casting that is 3"x7"x about 0.8". I can clamp it in the vise and set it

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread John Dammeyer
'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > Awesome. A Tormach user! > > OK. Say I have an aluminum plate casting that is 3"x7"x about 0.8". I can > clamp it in the vise and set it so > about 0.25" is above the edg

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread ken.strauss
Message- From: John Dammeyer Sent: September 7, 2022 2:51 PM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > From: ken.stra...@sympatico.ca [mailto:ken.stra...@sympatico.ca] > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > Yes and no. Pathpilot i

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread ken.strauss
that I use often is thread milling. Works a treat! -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer Sent: September 7, 2022 6:29 PM To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC Awesome. A Tormach user! OK. Say I have an aluminum plate casting that

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: ken.stra...@sympatico.ca [mailto:ken.stra...@sympatico.ca] > Sent: September-07-22 2:42 PM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > I have a real Tormach and frequently use the hub to test h

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread ken.strauss
) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > And for a simpler operating like surfacing something held in the vise > or clamped to the table there's an approach like the attached photo or > must one still write G-Code or use CAM to do this? > > Perhaps a Path Pilot user can post

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread John Dammeyer
gt; > sam > > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:55 PM John Dammeyer > > wrote: > > > >> > From: ken.stra...@sympatico.ca [mailto:ken.stra...@sympatico.ca] > >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > >> > > >> > Yes and no. Pathpil

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread Chris Albertson
> > And for a simpler operating like surfacing something held in the vise or > clamped to the table there's an approach like the attached photo or must > one still write G-Code or use CAM to do this? > > Perhaps a Path Pilot user can post a screen shot like the one attached > that shows how to do t

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
o run tormach machines. There is no 'setup' program. > > sam > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:55 PM John Dammeyer > wrote: > >> > From: ken.stra...@sympatico.ca [mailto:ken.stra...@sympatico.ca] >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC >> > >

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
pathpilot is setup to run tormach machines. There is no 'setup' program. sam On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 1:55 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > From: ken.stra...@sympatico.ca [mailto:ken.stra...@sympatico.ca] > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > > > Yes and no. P

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: ken.stra...@sympatico.ca [mailto:ken.stra...@sympatico.ca] > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > Yes and no. Pathpilot is free but it comes on a USB stick which is > chargeable. See https://tormach.com/search/?q=pathpilot%20upgrade > > -Original Message-

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread ken.strauss
ubject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > From: Groups [mailto:gro...@homanndesigns.com] John, > > Have a look at PathPilot. I've just converted my Mill to it from Mach3 > using a 7i92. It has the benefits of LinuxCNC but with an interface > closer to Mach3 when it comes to wi

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Groups [mailto:gro...@homanndesigns.com] > John, > > Have a look at PathPilot. I've just converted my Mill to it from Mach3 > using a 7i92. It has the benefits of LinuxCNC but with an interface > closer to Mach3 when it comes to wizards. > > Cheers, > > Peter > Peter How does one get

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread gene heskett
of help with buildbot $ or gear have been made, all simply ignored. TANSTAAFL guys. Somebody has to buy the beer and peanuts. ;o)> -Original Message- From: Ralph Stirling [mailto:ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu] Sent: September-06-22 5:34 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subjec

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread gene heskett
On 9/6/22 22:23, Feral Engineer wrote: I thought path pilot started using a Linuxcnc fork from machine kit? Centroid is appealing to new users because of a few reasons: ease of setup (no hal), conversational (although not great) and a unified ecosystem of hardware and software, with the ability

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread Chris Albertson
>> Sent: September-06-22 8:50 PM > >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > >> > >> On Tue, 6 Sep 2022, John Dammeyer wrote: > >> > >>> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2022 18:25:11 -0700 > >> A 7I96S i

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread Groups
ter C. Wallace [mailto:p...@mesanet.com] Sent: September-06-22 8:50 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC On Tue, 6 Sep 2022, John Dammeyer wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2022 18:25:11 -0700 A 7I96S is a much closer match to an Acorn (and has more basic I/O and

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-07 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Peter C. Wallace [mailto:p...@mesanet.com] > Sent: September-06-22 8:50 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > On Tue, 6 Sep 2022, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2022

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread John Dammeyer
neer [mailto:theferalengin...@gmail.com] > Sent: September-06-22 9:24 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > My hard and fast answer for why LinuxCNC would, again, come down to cost. A > coofun GK41 mini pc has more than enough gusto

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Sep 2022, John Dammeyer wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2022 18:25:11 -0700 From: John Dammeyer Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC Hi Ralph, The reason I ask is th

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread Feral Engineer
#x27;s a hobby system or used occasionally in a small shop to make 5 of > something. > > There are user groups for both types of systems. For that matter cost > wise there's also MACH4 with the Ethernet SmoothStepper or a few other > similar interfaces. Cost wise also in the $400 ra

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread John Dammeyer
22 5:30 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > I thought path pilot started using a Linuxcnc fork from machine kit? > > Centroid is appealing to new users because of a few reasons: ease of setup > (no hal), conversational (altho

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread John Dammeyer
tember-06-22 5:34 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC > > > What kind of machine does the potential Acorn buyer plan to control? > Most of these newer controls are aimed at vanilla 3-axis cartesian > machines. They generate step/dir

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread Feral Engineer
I thought path pilot started using a Linuxcnc fork from machine kit? Centroid is appealing to new users because of a few reasons: ease of setup (no hal), conversational (although not great) and a unified ecosystem of hardware and software, with the ability to find a plug and play centroid unit for

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread Sam Sokolik
I have almost stopped evangelizing linuxcnc... (almost) People are going to use what they are going to use. I just try to put out how cool and flexible linuxcnc is.. The acon is really one of the few hobby grade controllers that can thread and rigid tap. Plus you have the history of the centro

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread Bari
On 9/6/22 19:06, John Dammeyer wrote: If I was to offer an reason to go LinuxCNC to someone who is attracted to an Acorn system what would I say. Other than the Acorn is really just a cape for a BeagleBone Black. But the user interface is all via Ethernet so a PC of some sort is still requi

Re: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread Ralph Stirling
r [jo...@autoartisans.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2022 5:06 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Acorn CNC CAUTION: This email originated from outside the Walla Walla University email system. If I was to offer an reason to go LinuxCNC to someone who is attracted to an

[Emc-users] Acorn CNC

2022-09-06 Thread John Dammeyer
If I was to offer an reason to go LinuxCNC to someone who is attracted to an Acorn system what would I say. Other than the Acorn is really just a cape for a BeagleBone Black. But the user interface is all via Ethernet so a PC of some sort is still required. There appear to be so many CNC sys