On Saturday 10 May 2014 01:35:41 Jon Elson did opine
And Gene did reply:
OK, got camview-emc loaded, as described in the Wiki page
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Digital_Zoom_To_Camview
-Emc
But, not all of it is working. If I just have the line like
this:
On 05/10/2014 04:36 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
This is what I have in my .ini file Jon:
Thanks much, Gene! OK, so apparently you also need to
activate the campins.hal file in the ini file, and also
start up halui.
Then, campins.hal has this line :
net forOnNet genescamviewcfg.hal_checkbutton1 =
OK, found out at least part of the problem. When it
tries to start camview-emc, it tried to use
liblinuxcnchal.so.0, which does not exist. Anybody
know where it comes from?
I'm going to load all the dependencies for building
the software, that probably will fix it.
Thanks,
Jon
On 05/10/2014 01:08 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
OK, found out at least part of the problem. When it
tries to start camview-emc, it tried to use
liblinuxcnchal.so.0, which does not exist. Anybody
know where it comes from?
I'm going to load all the dependencies for building
the software, that
Am 10.05.2014 um 20:08 schrieb Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com:
OK, found out at least part of the problem. When it
tries to start camview-emc, it tried to use
liblinuxcnchal.so.0, which does not exist. Anybody
know where it comes from?
that is the userland hal library and produced
On 05/10/2014 02:53 PM, Michael Haberler wrote:
that is the userland hal library and produced during a normal build, nothing
HAL-related runs without it
Apparently, this is a new file with 2.5, I had a 2.4
install. Updating
to 2.5 added this file. Now, on to the next error message.
Thanks,
On Saturday 10 May 2014 13:16:48 Jon Elson did opine
And Gene did reply:
On 05/10/2014 04:36 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
This is what I have in my .ini file Jon:
Thanks much, Gene! OK, so apparently you also need to
activate the campins.hal file in the ini file, and also
start up halui.
On Saturday 10 May 2014 14:45:32 Jon Elson did opine
And Gene did reply:
On 05/10/2014 01:08 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
OK, found out at least part of the problem. When it
tries to start camview-emc, it tried to use
liblinuxcnchal.so.0, which does not exist. Anybody
know where it comes from?
Am 10.05.2014 um 23:05 schrieb Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com:
On Saturday 10 May 2014 14:08:00 Jon Elson did opine
And Gene did reply:
liblinuxcnchal.so.0
I have that, in /usr/lib. Why don't you?
last update before the emc-linuxcnc rename stampede broke loose?
Cheers, Gene
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OK, so the camera works. Now, I'd like to
build a new LinuxCNC system, based on the 10.04 (Lucid)
kernel. But, all the doc for camview-emc refers to Hardy.
Does anyone know if the various software pieces
(camview and camview-emc) that psha recommends
loading are available on 10.04? Are there
2014-05-09 20:30 GMT+03:00 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com:
Does anybody else have camview-emc running
on a 10.04 kernel?
Yes, I think that is the way I have a camera picture in another tab in Axis.
Sorry, I do not remember, how exactly did I set it up, but since I am not
really the guy to
On Friday 09 May 2014 13:30:32 Jon Elson did opine
And Gene did reply:
OK, so the camera works. Now, I'd like to
build a new LinuxCNC system, based on the 10.04 (Lucid)
kernel. But, all the doc for camview-emc refers to Hardy.
Does anyone know if the various software pieces
(camview and
What align stuff and align kit?
On May 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
On Friday 09 May 2014 13:30:32 Jon Elson did opine
And Gene did reply:
OK, so the camera works. Now, I'd like to
build a new LinuxCNC system, based on the 10.04 (Lucid)
kernel. But, all the
On Friday 09 May 2014 14:55:25 bi...@ivdc.com did opine
And Gene did reply:
What align stuff and align kit?
There is an alignment aid kit (google it) that works with camview-emc,
fixes 2 problems.
1) it moves the machine from where ever it is, to put the camera looking
at where the tool was
I'm going to update the howto docs shortly. 10.04 should work just fine
with just adding the repos, installing the packages
http://psha.org.ru/debian/README.html
and making 2 lines of mods to your .INI
Add following lines to INI file:
EMBED_TAB_NAME = Camera
EMBED_TAB_COMMAND =
OK, got camview-emc loaded, as described in the Wiki page
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Digital_Zoom_To_Camview-Emc
But, not all of it is working. If I just have the line like
this:
EMBED_TAB_COMMAND = ./camview-emc-f1oat.py -w {XID}
I get a video in the Camera tab, but if I
On 05/10/2014 12:35 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
OK, got camview-emc loaded, as described in the Wiki page
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Digital_Zoom_To_Camview-Emc
But, not all of it is working. If I just have the line like
this:
EMBED_TAB_COMMAND = ./camview-emc-f1oat.py -w
On 05/04/2014 11:20 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote:
Jon - http://imagebin.org/309092
Tip of camera just touching surface. That's a 0.1mm gap set on the jaws
of my Mitu digimatic calipers. The ground surface looks good until you
zoom in :) Plenty good enough to find an edge.
Well, I don't want to
On 05/04/2014 11:20 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote:
Jon - http://imagebin.org/309092
Tip of camera just touching surface. That's a 0.1mm gap set on the jaws
of my Mitu digimatic calipers. The ground surface looks good until you
zoom in :) Plenty good enough to find an edge.
Same 0.1mm gap.
On 05/04/2014 11:20 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote:
http://imagebin.org/309092
http://imagebin.org/309107
Image above with Sobel on lower half. You can really see how lighting
will effect how well the edges will be detected.
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote:
Jon - http://imagebin.org/309092
Tip of camera just touching surface. That's a 0.1mm gap set on the jaws
of my Mitu digimatic calipers. The ground surface looks good until you
zoom in :) Plenty good enough to find
~130um plated hole PCB
VGA microscope
http://imagebin.org/309193
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On 05/05/2014 02:00 AM, Bari wrote:
On 05/04/2014 11:20 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote:
Same 0.1mm gap. Camera body on the surface. With threshold and Sobel
edge detect.
http://imagebin.org/309105
OK, so how many pixels is that gap? Taking a wild guess, it
might
be about 40 pixels. That sounds
On 05/05/2014 11:01 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
On 05/05/2014 02:00 AM, Bari wrote:
On 05/04/2014 11:20 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote:
Same 0.1mm gap. Camera body on the surface. With threshold and Sobel
edge detect.
http://imagebin.org/309105
OK, so how many pixels is that gap? Taking a wild guess,
On Mon, 5 May 2014 05:23:32 -0400, you wrote:
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 12:20 AM, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote:
Jon - http://imagebin.org/309092
Tip of camera just touching surface. That's a 0.1mm gap set on the jaws
of my Mitu digimatic calipers. The ground surface looks good
On 05/05/2014 10:57 AM, Bari wrote:
~130um plated hole PCB
VGA microscope
http://imagebin.org/309193
Yes, I know the real microscopes can get an even higher
resolution image, but I'm trying to come up with something
small that will fit partly into the shank hole of an end mill
holder. I'd
I'm using cameras and microscopes with Linuxcnc for vision based feature
and defect detection. I'll try to update Camview and Camunits to easily
work with Linuxcnc for edge detection, vision based homing, center
finding, etc etc.
These were taken with a Logitech C270 ~$30-40 permanently
On 05/04/2014 10:55 AM, Bari wrote:
I'm using cameras and microscopes with Linuxcnc for vision based feature
and defect detection. I'll try to update Camview and Camunits to easily
work with Linuxcnc for edge detection, vision based homing, center
finding, etc etc.
These were taken with a
On 05/04/2014 06:19 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
PCB Traces
http://imagebin.org/308970
Those clearly are not good enough for sub-.001 edge finding.
Those were taken at 2 different distances. The second one (at the link
above) is good enough, but I'm not sure how sub 25um you want to go.
I have one
On 05/04/2014 06:50 PM, Bari wrote:
http://imagebin.org/309060
Taken of a 6 mil pcb trace with the VGA res microscope that you're
waiting for.
And that one looks pretty good. I'll have to see how good
a picture it gives of the typical edge of a machined part,
with possibly too much contrast
On 05/04/2014 09:51 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
And that one looks pretty good. I'll have to see how good
a picture it gives of the typical edge of a machined part,
with possibly too much contrast to display perfectly.
But, this could well do as good a job as a typical cheap
edge finder.
That
On Sun, 04 May 2014 18:19:14 -0500, you wrote:
Those images are not real close-up either, but Steve Blackmore
seems to indicate it will focus a lot closer. I'll see when
mine comes
in.
Jon - http://imagebin.org/309092
Tip of camera just touching surface. That's a 0.1mm gap set on the jaws
of
Le 2014-05-03 04:50, Jon Elson a écrit :
There is a pic from the HD5000 webcam in the Wiki at
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Adding_Digital_Zoom_To_Camview-Emc
that is not very impressive, you might be able to get it within .1mm
but that's about it.
I would like to clarify an
On 3 May 2014 03:56, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
Hmm, well, a 4 second lag is pretty bad, if you are using it to
center parts under the spindle. What resolution is that
camera? It seems the lower res ones may have faster
update.
I bought this one:
On 05/03/2014 02:51 AM, Frederic RIBLE wrote:
I would like to clarify an important fact: the picture from the wiki is
taken with a workpiece / camera distance of 100mm.
At this distance, I achieved better than 0.05 mm accuracy, but with
uncomfortable conditions.
I agree, 0.1mm is the
On 05/03/2014 06:23 AM, andy pugh wrote:
On 3 May 2014 03:56, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
Hmm, well, a 4 second lag is pretty bad, if you are using it to
center parts under the spindle. What resolution is that
camera? It seems the lower res ones may have faster
update.
I bought
On Saturday 03 May 2014 12:39:35 Jon Elson did opine:
On 05/03/2014 06:23 AM, andy pugh wrote:
On 3 May 2014 03:56, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
Hmm, well, a 4 second lag is pretty bad, if you are using it to
center parts under the spindle. What resolution is that
camera? It
On 05/03/2014 12:02 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
I think what one wants isn't the microscope, but something
with effectively a long telephoto, so you can get far
enough away from the work to see what you are doing
visually too, not to mention having the camera far enough
away that you can just
On 05/03/2014 12:02 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
I think you can make arguments both ways Jon. You are looking for accuracy
that exceeds the machines accuracy in most cases, and the depth of field of
those ranges downward from 2mm or worse depending of the F-stop of the
lens.
Over relatively
On 2014-05-02 19:42, Philipp Burch wrote:
Hi everyone,
not that I knew about a good camera for this, but since it somehow fits
the topic, let me just briefly say a few words to an alignment software
I made some time ago.
Under http://hb9etc.ch/hg/aligner you can find some code which allows
On Sat, 3 May 2014, Jon Elson wrote:
On 05/03/2014 06:23 AM, andy pugh wrote:
On 3 May 2014 03:56, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
Hmm, well, a 4 second lag is pretty bad, if you are using it to
center parts under the spindle. What resolution is that
camera? It seems the lower res
Wow, it works very well.
Congrat and thanks!
matsche
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On Sat, 03 May 2014 11:24:14 -0500, you wrote:
On 05/03/2014 02:51 AM, Frederic RIBLE wrote:
I would like to clarify an important fact: the picture from the wiki is
taken with a workpiece / camera distance of 100mm.
At this distance, I achieved better than 0.05 mm accuracy, but with
On Sat, 03 May 2014 14:57:46 -0500, you wrote:
On 05/03/2014 12:02 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
I think what one wants isn't the microscope, but something
with effectively a long telephoto, so you can get far
enough away from the work to see what you are doing
visually too, not to mention
On 05/03/2014 04:41 PM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2012/06/28/adafruit-usb-microscope-work-with-linux-yes/
Yup, there are a bunch of people selling these on eBay,
but they are a large diameter and might be hard to mount
to a spindle. That's why I thought those 7 and
On 05/03/2014 07:09 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote:
Jon - Mine's a Supereyes B005 - I'm very impressed with
it. Manual focus range is excellent. They list it as
Magnification = 1/10-200X It will focus with the camera
touching an object or as far away as you like. Easy to
mount too as it's slim
I know there has been some discussion about using cameras
for center/edge finding with LinuxCNC. I just found a
camera/microscope that looks REALLY ideal, but have no
idea if there is a Linux driver for the camera chip.
See eBay item
On 5/2/2014 10:15 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
But, the eBay listing only specifies XP drivers.
So, does anybody know how to find out whether there
is a Linux driver for this camera? Any other comments
on suitability of this unit?
There's likely no way to figure out what the chip is without
On Fri 02/05/14 17:15 , Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
I know there has been some discussion about using cameras
for center/edge finding with LinuxCNC. I just found a
camera/microscope that looks REALLY ideal, but have no
idea if there is a Linux driver for the camera chip.
Jon -
On 2 May 2014 16:15, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
eBay item # is 321060396782 if the above line is messed up.
I have a similar one, I just tried it with Precise and Cheese and it
Just worked
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That looks very similar to the one I have and I'm not unhappy I bought it,
but the optics didn't work for what I wanted to use it for. Which was
pretty much an edge finding operation. It just worked with linux,
although I went to some trouble prior to that to set up a more expensive
usb
On Friday 02 May 2014 12:14:04 Jon Elson did opine:
I know there has been some discussion about using cameras
for center/edge finding with LinuxCNC. I just found a
camera/microscope that looks REALLY ideal, but have no
idea if there is a Linux driver for the camera chip.
See eBay item
Hi everyone,
not that I knew about a good camera for this, but since it somehow fits
the topic, let me just briefly say a few words to an alignment software
I made some time ago.
Under http://hb9etc.ch/hg/aligner you can find some code which allows a
cheap camera to be used for automatic
,
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- Original Message -
From: Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 11:15:21 AM
Subject: [Emc-users] center finder camera
I know there has been some discussion about using cameras
for center
Gene,
I had the same lag problem so I adjusted saturation and hue to 0, result is
almost no lag monochrome is fine for edge finding.
Cheers, Phill
On May 3, 2014 2:31:59 AM GMT+10:00, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
On Friday 02 May 2014 12:14:04 Jon Elson did opine:
I know there has
On 05/02/2014 10:28 AM, andy pugh wrote:
On 2 May 2014 16:15, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
eBay item # is 321060396782 if the above line is messed up.
I have a similar one, I just tried it with Precise and Cheese and it
Just worked
There are a bunch of similar units. Some are
On 05/02/2014 10:28 AM, andy pugh wrote:
On 2 May 2014 16:15, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
eBay item # is 321060396782 if the above line is messed up.
I have a similar one, I just tried it with Precise and Cheese and it
Just worked
OK, well, that is good news. We got two
On 05/02/2014 11:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
I have one similar to that Jon, paid 22$ for it on
fleabay, and am using the camunits drivers. Other than the
lag of the image getting thru all the filters, about 4
seconds to update the screen when you move it,
Hmm, well, a 4 second lag is pretty
On Friday 02 May 2014 23:38:39 Phill Carter did opine:
Gene,
I had the same lag problem so I adjusted saturation and hue to 0, result
is almost no lag monochrome is fine for edge finding. Cheers, Phill
Aha! So I'm not the only oh look, a pony type out here, thanks for waving
your arm.
On Friday 02 May 2014 23:51:25 Jon Elson did opine:
On 05/02/2014 11:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
I have one similar to that Jon, paid 22$ for it on
fleabay, and am using the camunits drivers. Other than the
lag of the image getting thru all the filters, about 4
seconds to update the
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