Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 December 2007, Tony Bussan wrote: I cruised some of the Honeywell sensor pages and the Digikey catalog page with the 1GP4001 on it. I had studied the previous Digikey page because I was interested in the Honeywell 103SR13A-1 which are installed on my Hardinge lathe. I am guessing

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 December 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 07 December 2007, David Winter wrote: Dear All, By my calculations a 50 tooth gear at 3000 rpm gives a 2500 Hz signal, not 150 kHz. David Winter. Ahh, I think your

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 December 2007, David Winter wrote: Dear All, By my calculations a 50 tooth gear at 3000 rpm gives a 2500 Hz signal, not 150 kHz. David Winter. Ahh, I think your calculator is broken David. According to kcalc,

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 December 2007, John Kasunich wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: I possibly didn't word that as precisely as I could. But at zero speed, there truly is no signal to condition. Only if its moving can it generate a signal. Not true. Hall and MR sensors are DC sensitive devices. From 1984

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-07 Thread David Winter
Dear All, By my calculations a 50 tooth gear at 3000 rpm gives a 2500 Hz signal, not 150 kHz. David Winter. - SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-07 Thread John Kasunich
Gene Heskett wrote: I possibly didn't word that as precisely as I could. But at zero speed, there truly is no signal to condition. Only if its moving can it generate a signal. Not true. Hall and MR sensors are DC sensitive devices. From 1984 to 1991 I worked at a company that makes MR

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-07 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: I possibly didn't word that as precisely as I could. But at zero speed, there truly is no signal to condition. Only if its moving can it generate a signal. A Hall effect device is sensitive to a stationary magnetic field, unlike a coil of wire, which requires a moving

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle Has anyone tried using a magnetic sensor such as a crankshaft position sensor for a spindle encoder? I would not have to protect this arrangement nearly so well as an optical system against oil

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 December 2007, Kirk Wallace wrote: Thanks for the lead Tony. I cruised some of the Honeywell sensor pages and the Digikey catalog page with the 1GP4001 on it. I had studied the previous Digikey page because I was interested in the Honeywell 103SR13A-1 which are installed on my

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 December 2007, John Kasunich wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: I'm still puzzled by the 10 kilohertz response listed for this device. WTH? Its a GMR device, and GMR is now being used as the read head in modern hard drives, with data rates recovered from it at what is effectively a 3

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-06 Thread Tony Bussan
I cruised some of the Honeywell sensor pages and the Digikey catalog page with the 1GP4001 on it. I had studied the previous Digikey page because I was interested in the Honeywell 103SR13A-1 which are installed on my Hardinge lathe. I am guessing that for rigid tapping that the sensor will

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-04 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 20:58 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007, John Kasunich wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007, Kirk Wallace wrote: Has anyone tried using a magnetic sensor such as a crankshaft position sensor for a spindle encoder? I would not have

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 04 December 2007, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 20:58 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007, John Kasunich wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: [...] So the short message is: Keep your hall effect devices scrupulously clean. And not with solvents, good old soap

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-04 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: As above, I am aware that halls have been used to good effect as engine crankshaft position detectors in automotive ECM apps for quite a few years now, with minimal failure rates. So there appears to be a disconnect between my observations and the rest of the

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-04 Thread Tony Bussan
] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle Has anyone tried using a magnetic sensor such as a crankshaft position sensor for a spindle encoder? I would not have to protect this arrangement nearly so well as an optical system against oil and dirt. Initially, I found this part - AKL001-12E: http

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 December 2007, Kirk Wallace wrote: Has anyone tried using a magnetic sensor such as a crankshaft position sensor for a spindle encoder? I would not have to protect this arrangement nearly so well as an optical system against oil and dirt. Initially, I found this part - AKL001-12E:

Re: [Emc-users] Magnetic Geartooth Sensor for Spindle

2007-12-03 Thread John Kasunich
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007, Kirk Wallace wrote: Has anyone tried using a magnetic sensor such as a crankshaft position sensor for a spindle encoder? I would not have to protect this arrangement nearly so well as an optical system against oil and dirt. Initially, I found