Re: [-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 74, Issue 3

2011-01-10 Thread Heidi May
Which makes me wonder, considering the recent overlaps between art and education (http://www.e-flux.com/shows/view/7976), if art such as this should include pedagogical aspects? Pedagogical aspects, that is, which are implemented in a way that doesn't feel like someone is telling you what t

Re: [-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread Heidi May
Hello All, Excellent ideas being posted so far! And the photo of the MGM logo lion - what a find! I'm looking forward to all the discussions this month. To add to the artworks already listed that deal with surveillance/ sousveillance and ideas of the panopticon, I thought I would post li

Re: [-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread Johannes Birringer
dear all, dear Christina now you've moved from the stuffed MGM logo lion via Foucault on ethics to "newstweek" proposing the manipulation and falsification of news content. >> This could just as equally be performed in any cafe, school, library or airport with a remote user logging in and ma

Re: [-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread Christina Spiesel
Thanks, Julian! I look forward to checking out the sites. In fact, there is no way to be sure that any of us is experiencing the same site unless we do side by side comparisons because we have yet to have a trusted platform. (That doesn't prevent people from trusting) This comes up whenev

Re: [-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread Christina Spiesel
Hello All, Oddly on topic, my husband just sent me a link to this old b/w photo; http://i.imgur.com/w4n2M.jpg It depicts the "shooting" of the MGM logo lion. Adding our perspective as viewers of the picture, there are at least three POVs involved. I am most curious about how the lion construc

Re: [-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread Simon Biggs
This is the moral quandry, and a very practical one. On 10/01/2011 19:01, "marc garrett" wrote: > Can we hack our way round this cul-de-sac, and > if so, in what manner or form? Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ s.bi...@eca.ac.uk http://www.elmcip.net/ http://ww

Re: [-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread Simon Biggs
I've always enjoyed Michael Naimark's pieces that engage surveillance technologies. Sometimes they are subtle and sometimes not. http://www.naimark.net/projects/zap.html Best Simon On 10/01/2011 19:01, "marc garrett" wrote: > My first example of art that deals head on with the issue of > sur

Re: [-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread Simon Biggs
Hi Marc A substantial post that will take time to digest (in both senses). I think I'll do it in small serves. The quote below appears to support Foucault's panoptic model, with everyone complicit in the process of surveillance. I've just checked Discipline and Punish and so far as I can see Fouc

Re: [-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread Johannes Birringer
Hello all, hello Marc what if one were to choose not to see the ironies in the Surveillance Studies Network report ("surveillance society is better thought of as the outcome of modern organizational practices, businesses, government and the military than as a covert conspiracy. Surveillan

Re: [-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread marc garrett
Hi Empyre, I want to delve into a mix of art, legality, privatization of public space and surveillance. As well as explore artwork that critiques the hegemonies influencing our behaviours through the networked construct, the neoliberal appropriation, and its ever expansive surveillance strate

[-empyre-] the netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread Christina Spiesel
Dear empyreans, Thank you, Simon for the invitation; I am looking forward to this. Being one who likes to work inductively, last evening, in anticipation of the start of January's topic, I paid attention to themes on Google News. Among all the stories covering the shooting of a US Congresswo

Re: [-empyre-] Contesting the Netopticon

2011-01-10 Thread marc garrett
Hi Simon, Christina & all, Firstly, Thank you for inviting me to be part of the 'Contesting the Netopticon' discussion on Empyre. At the end of Simon's concise and well written introduction. Wikileaks is mentioned as "turning the Panoptic gaze back upon the observer [...] significant counter