Re: [-empyre-] soft _skinned space and lurking vs.participating

2011-12-02 Thread s...@krokodile.co.uk
Simon etc, It may also be simpler than this, some of us are silent because empyre is fixated on art and aesthetics and we notably those of us who are engineers and philosophers don't really think its something we can or want to speak on... regards steve On 01/12/2011 14:44, Simon Biggs

Re: [-empyre-] soft _skinned space and lurking vs.participating

2011-12-01 Thread Johannes Birringer
dear Yannis and Helene, dear all, i believe the critique, offered very modestly by last month's discussion moderators, concerns us all, and is addressed to the those who make or partake or belong to such a soft_skinned community or, to use a less optimistic term, 'space', -and perhaps the

Re: [-empyre-] soft _skinned space and lurking vs.participating

2011-12-01 Thread Simon Biggs
This is not a new debate and predates list serves. I remember being at an arts conference, mainly of practitioners, back in 1982 or thereabouts (Artists' Week at the Adelaide Festival) and there were a few (now well known) international theorists presenting as well. It was at the time that

Re: [-empyre-] soft _skinned space and lurking vs.participating

2011-12-01 Thread Ioannis Zannos
Dear Johannes, To answer briefly: I believe it would be useful to discuss the critique, especially if it leads us to review what has been written and try to summarise the different thoughts, in order to find common ground, possibly translate to a common language, and finally above all to

Re: [-empyre-] soft _skinned space and lurking vs.participating

2011-12-01 Thread Johannes Birringer
to, may be an open issue. with regards Johannes Birringer dap lab http://www.brunel.ac.uk/dap _ Subject: Re: [-empyre-] soft _skinned space and lurking vs.participating Dear Johannes, To answer briefly: I believe it would be useful to discuss

Re: [-empyre-] soft _skinned space and lurking vs.participating

2011-12-01 Thread NeMe
Dear Johannes, We invited four guest discussants initially, then another four the following week plus received forty-eight personal emails from NeMe's mailing list of over 1800 subscribers who expressed their intention to contribute. Some of these people were from Cyprus, China, Lebanon, Croatia,