Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes

2003-11-17 Thread Ben Barrett
I know I might [now] get slammed for not using yum [yet], and maybe I'll be promoting it soon, but I'm still enjoying apt-get (apt-rpm) on redhat... there's a nice apt GUI tool call synaptic, which I'm sure some debian users know. It's real nice = ) regards, Ben PS - does anyone have some

Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes

2003-11-17 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: I know I might [now] get slammed for not using yum [yet], and maybe I'll be promoting it soon, but I'm still enjoying apt-get (apt-rpm) on redhat... there's a nice apt GUI tool call synaptic, which I'm sure some debian users know. It's real nice = ) I'm not getting warm

Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes

2003-11-17 Thread Ben Barrett
Best RedHat yet.,.. unfortunately (since they're giving up on us in favor of corporate entities). I wanted to say, Worst... episode... ever! but that is just a fun Simpson's reference. Here's an idea, one could possibly say it tests a certain aspect of robustness within an OS: attempt to do

Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes

2003-11-17 Thread Ben Barrett
I've nearly derailed in the past, by such proliferation, but only when I tried to use both Ximian's tree and Apt-rpm's... I had to choose one or the other to get my main system updates, primarily because Ximian does indeed release their own package tree -- in my case, most of my Gnome binaries got

Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes

2003-11-17 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 10:53:55AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: I'm not getting warm fuzzies about the proliferation of package managers that TDFKAR (The Distribution Formerly Known As RedHat) is using. Package management and version synchronization is hard enough without introducing three

Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes

2003-11-16 Thread Bob Crandell
Don't worry. I'm not defecting. This episode just confirmed for me that Slackware is still the best distribution for servers out there. This stupid Redhat glibc snafoo that sent me out there doesn't happen with Slack. I'v updated a few Slack 8.0 to 9.1 without this kind of issue. Yes. The

Re: [eug-lug]RPM Woes

2003-11-15 Thread Linux Rocks !
Traitor! hehe... just teasing... so... how is redhat 9? would you use it on your computer? Jamie On Saturday 15 November 2003 11:07 pm, Bob Crandell wrote: : Hi, : : Just thought I'd let you know, at least the ones who care (if there are : any), that reinstalling Redhat on a clean system went

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-13 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:15:56AM +, Bob Crandell wrote: I know. I'm bad. Just let this be a leason to you. Don't cut corners. The longer I think about the more I'm hoping Cory isn't right about sick hardware. I'll know in the morning. uh! I can't believe you did that. However it

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:59:47PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 box I get rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well. Wait, an upgrade from

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Ben Barrett
Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the -U option for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for installs of new packages, so (if that's right) it could/should be used instead of -i anytime. I use

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Ben Barrett
But -- they *HAD* to do it. It was the only way. It also made them that much cooler, er more badass. The main ill effect I recall was the destruction of the fine chandelier in the ballroom (their first major encounter) -- didn't they also need to cross the streams to toast the Stay-Puft man?

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Bob Crandell
Ok brand new a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box isn't. This is a file server in another city too far from here. I had to install Redhat 3 times to get it to work. The users were hanging over me, Is it done yet? And this was on a Saturday after I'd given them a weeks notice

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Ken Barber
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 12:59, Bob Crandell wrote: When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 box I get rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions Well, first of all I wouldn't use wu_ftpd. Redhat has (finally!) switched to vsftpd, which

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Bob Crandell
Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the -U option for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for installs of new packages, so (if that's right) it could/should

RE: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Grigsby, Garl
Can you post an ls -l of /var/lib/rpm/ Garl -Original Message- From: Bob Crandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:18 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Ok brand new a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box isn't. What I was getting at was did you install redhat over the top of mandrake or did you wipe it? They way you said it sounded like the former. This is a file

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:34:18AM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Not any more. ls now says: ls: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /lib/tls/libc.so.6) ls: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_PRIVATE' not found (required by /lib/tls/libc.so.6) Have I ever mentioned

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Bob Crandell
I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I started and this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies. Thanks. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Ok brand new a bad choice of

RE: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Grigsby, Garl
: [eug-lug]RPM woes I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I started and this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies. Thanks. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Ok

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 02:18:12AM +, Bob Crandell wrote: I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I started and this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies. Thanks. No symptoms? 3 installs to get it to work? Did those dependencies

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Bob Miller
Grigsby, Garl wrote: What it sounded like to me was a out of date rpm database. Mandrake 7.2 used RPM v3.somthingorotherithinkitwas.0.5 (another indian name), while Redhat 9 used 4.2. If you did do an upgrade from Mandrake to Redhat (you are braver than I) then it is probably an issue of an

Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes

2003-11-12 Thread Bob Crandell
I know. I'm bad. Just let this be a leason to you. Don't cut corners. The longer I think about the more I'm hoping Cory isn't right about sick hardware. I'll know in the morning. Thanks Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Grigsby, Garl wrote: What it sounded like to me was a out of date