Re: [eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-12 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 04:44:20PM -0800, Marc Baber wrote: I would say that spam, or at least the set of e-mails that one might want to be classified as spam, is *not* the same for everybody, in the case of politically motivated spam filtering. Because the corpus body of collected spam

Re: [eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-11 Thread Bob Miller
Larry Price wrote: spamassassin is a filtering solution analogous to using a pitchfork on a river in flood, it's effective at moving debris out of the way, but it's not exactly selective... My question about all this is, does spamassassin's Bayesian component use per-user filter tables or a

Re: [eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-11 Thread Bob Miller
Larry Price wrote: The current setup is not the final setup, we are currently moving towards per user whitelists but the Bayesian filter is probably most useful as a global weight. The trend I notice being that spam is generally more similar than different, otherwise every one's filter

Re: [eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-11 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 01:00:22PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Maybe I should give a EUGLUG talk on setting up bogofilter for personal use. I'd need some help from someone who understands POP and IMAP -- I still use /var/spool/mail/$USER as my mail queue. fetchmail or mozilla mail = 1.4 which

Re: [eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-11 Thread Ben Barrett
I *love* mozilla mail, esp 1.5, although I don't use it myself at this point. I've set it up for a number of folks, here at my day job and elsewhere, and everyone likes it. One thing I've noted is that you have to go into the spam filter config in the Tools menu, to tell it to dump your

Re: [eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-11 Thread Marc Baber
I would say that spam, or at least the set of e-mails that one might want to be classified as spam, is *not* the same for everybody, in the case of politically motivated spam filtering. Because the corpus body of collected spam e-mails is used to filter e-mail for all users, one person's spam

[eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-10 Thread Larry Price
On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 03:02 PM, Marc Baber wrote: Please forgive me for singling you (Larry) out as the expert on the subject of [EMAIL PROTECTED], but you've been very helpful on the topic more than once in the past and I suspect you're our best hope of  finding answers to a