Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 Aug 2014, at 18:40, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: The FPI, it's a pretentious way of saying that nobody knows what they will see or do next, and just like philosophers I love being pretentious. Everyone, even infants, understand it

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Exactly what John Clark seems to miss, the first person after-experiences. Oh yes, that's because John Clark is a Zombie. In both diaries, those who predicted 'no break of symmetry', Who in hell predicted no break of

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Aug 2014, at 18:04, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Exactly what John Clark seems to miss, the first person after- experiences. Oh yes, that's because John Clark is a Zombie. So don't act if the HM-john Clark, and the

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread meekerdb
On 8/3/2014 9:04 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Exactly what John Clark seems to miss, the first person after-experiences. Oh yes, that's because John Clark is a Zombie. In both diaries, those

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread LizR
What about multiple personality disorder ? Are they the same person? (I'd guess not) On 4 August 2014 06:50, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 8/3/2014 9:04 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Exactly what John Clark seems

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread Kim Jones
On 4 Aug 2014, at 4:50 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Bruno seems to have a theory, based on his salvia experience, that a person can exist independently of any memories. That's why he says things like, We're all the same person. I find this theory contrary to experience.

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread Kim Jones
On 4 Aug 2014, at 5:46 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: What about multiple personality disorder ? Are they the same person? (I'd guess not) Why? There is a weaker, culturally acceptable version of this in the concept of the parallel lives we all lead. Now don't tell me you are all just

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread LizR
On 4 August 2014 11:16, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 4 Aug 2014, at 4:50 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Bruno seems to have a theory, based on his salvia experience, that a person can exist independently of any memories. That's why he says things like, We're all

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread LizR
On 4 August 2014 11:27, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: On 4 Aug 2014, at 5:46 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: What about multiple personality disorder ? Are they the same person? (I'd guess not) Why? There is a weaker, culturally acceptable version of this in the concept of

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread meekerdb
On 8/3/2014 4:27 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 4 Aug 2014, at 5:46 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: What about multiple personality disorder ? Are they the same person? (I'd guess not) Why? There is a weaker, culturally acceptable version of this in the concept of the parallel lives we all lead.

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread meekerdb
On 8/3/2014 4:16 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 4 Aug 2014, at 4:50 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Bruno seems to have a theory, based on his salvia experience, that a person can exist independently of any memories. That's why he says things like, We're all the same person. I find this

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 8/3/2014 9:04 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Exactly what John Clark seems to miss, the first person after-experiences. Oh yes, that's because John

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread Kim Jones
On 4 Aug 2014, at 10:12 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Sure, maybe they were perfectly aware of the world around them and knew who they were with and and where they were and it was just chance cosmic rays interrupting their motor neurons that caused them to refer people long

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread Kim Jones
On 4 Aug 2014, at 10:09 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 8/3/2014 4:27 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 4 Aug 2014, at 5:46 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: What about multiple personality disorder ? Are they the same person? (I'd guess not) Why? There is a weaker, culturally

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread meekerdb
On 8/3/2014 5:18 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:50 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 8/3/2014 9:04 AM, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:

Re: Comp Bedtime Stories

2014-08-03 Thread meekerdb
On 8/3/2014 8:29 PM, Kim Jones wrote: On 4 Aug 2014, at 10:12 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Sure, maybe they were perfectly aware of the world around them and knew who they were with and and where they were and it was just chance cosmic rays interrupting their motor neurons that