Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/18/2014 2:05 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:07 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/17/2014 8:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Dec 2014, at 13:03, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so powerful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Every organizational principle based on markets presuppose that people finally choose certain common good, not the immediate interest that is deleterious for the whole. The market principle has the same problems than the democratic principle: Both demand a high level of morality. The buyer need

RE: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:36 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen On 19 December 2014 at 19:52, 'Chris de Morsella' via

RE: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:37 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen Time for a chorus of Freeze a jolly good fellow ?

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so powerful. Are you sure that more powerful hand-held weapons would change their minds about the need to keep a balance of power between the government and the

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:26 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto: everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *John Clark *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:57 PM *To:*

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: A democracy that legislate oppressive laws based on an ideology that is against economical, social or anthropological reality is an oppressive regime, no matter if it includes democratic in his name, while a

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so powerful. You're referring to these: http://www.damninteresting.com/davy-crockett-king-of-the-atomic-frontier/ ? Jason -- You received this message because you

Seeking astrophysicist willing to help an author

2014-12-19 Thread Pierz
So a close friend of mine is a novelist whose latest book has a supernova in it. It's not a sci fi novel and the supernova is really quite secondary but provides a nice backdrop to the literary main fare. I've read the manuscript and though I'm no astrophysicist I can see his science is full of

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Dec 2014, at 05:34, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: -Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Russell Standish Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:39 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Dec 2014, at 18:46, John Clark wrote: Although I am in good health I have just signed up with Alcor to have my head cryogenically frozen at 320 degrees below zero (77 degrees Kelvin) after my death. I am not convinced it will work but I am convinced that if it doesn't work it won't

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Dec 2014, at 14:45, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Probably the only natural government, the one that does not need an ideological legitimation, is the feudal system. And all the rest tend to reproduce it in a bastardized way. I would say that democracy reproduce it, but with some hope of

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Dec 2014, at 18:27, Jason Resch wrote: I think the National Initiative ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_initiative#National_Initiative_for_Democracy_.28USA.29 ) is one of the most promising of proposed changes to the system of human governance that I have seen. That is

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I dont think that democracy can clear the bastardized things that she himself generates. Au contraire, Democracy legitimate them in a more perverse way It is not the same to live under your Lord as Lord that to live under your representants democratically chosen. It is not the same to be

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2014-12-19 16:52 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com: The modern man can accept any oppression, with the condition that must be impersonal the hand that imposes it. Nicolás Gómez Dávila 2014-12-19 15:47 GMT+01:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 18 Dec 2014, at 18:46, John

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
The modern man can accept any oppression, with the condition that must be impersonal the hand that imposes it. Nicolás Gómez Dávila 2014-12-19 15:47 GMT+01:00 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 18 Dec 2014, at 18:46, John Clark wrote: Although I am in good health I have just signed up with

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Sorry. The message was for the thread about democracy. Anyway, Why criogenization if information is never lost? only that it is scrambled with time. A dead body can be perfectly preserved as a dead body to be eternally a dead body. or at least his information. 2014-12-19 16:53 GMT+01:00 Alberto

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Dec 2014, at 16:13, Alberto G. Corona wrote: I dont think that democracy can clear the bastardized things that she himself generates. Au contraire, Democracy legitimate them in a more perverse way It is not the same to live under your Lord as Lord that to live under your

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: you might wake up as a brain in a vat I wake up every morning as a brain in a skull, so would that really be that different? it is rather courageous. I think that it is vein somehow, tough, If instead I had just

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yeah, the brain freeze headache to end all headaches. Duplicated people, may naturally, be very rare, unless someone deliberately works to industrialize this magical technology process? More likely, John Clark will wake up having been resucitated from a thawed brain, rather than some other

RE: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 6:55 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen On 19 Dec 2014, at 05:34,

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/18/2014 10:44 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: *From:*meekerdb *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:06 AM. On 12/18/2014 10:16 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: *From:*everything-list@googlegroups.com mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/18/2014 10:57 PM, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Water expands when it freezes; Yes. Until a method of preserving the exquisite micro (and

RE: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 10:53 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: real A.I. On 12/18/2014 10:44 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: From:

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread Kim Jones
Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com I'm not saying there aren't a lot of dangerous people out there. I am saying a lot of them are in government - Russell

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread Kim Jones
Democracy is rotten to the core and always was. Democracy represents the greatest and most perverse failure of the human imagination possible. Democracy enshrines argument and warefare as the only way forward in any situation where values are competing. Attack and defence are the only buttons

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 20 December 2014 at 07:02, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: you might wake up as a brain in a vat I wake up every morning as a brain in a skull (Apparently, at least.) The point is that a BIAV can be

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 20 December 2014 at 07:04, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Yeah, the brain freeze headache to end all headaches. My son was in a short movie called Brainfreeze, I think he was 11 at the time. He's Bjorn.

Re: Seeking astrophysicist willing to help an author

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
Well I happen to know someone with a bachelor degree in astrophysics if that's any help. And the first and most crucial question is, how close is the SN to Earth? Actually I would think a supernova *could* cause aurorae? Indeed if within about 20 light years it could strip the ozone layer I

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so powerful. Are you sure that more powerful hand-held weapons would change their minds

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 19 December 2014 at 23:13, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: A democracy that legislate oppressive laws based on an ideology that is against economical, social or anthropological reality is an

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 19 December 2014 at 23:15, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so powerful. You're referring to these:

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/18/2014 11:58 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:08 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/18/2014 2:37 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:25 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com mailto:lizj...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 12:10 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 6:12 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/18/2014 2:05 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:07 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
Why didn't Churchill revolt? Well... He was a Tory and born into the nobility, part of an illustrious family, as well as being the Prime Minister who led the UK to victory against the Nazis. That probably made him feel that *he* was running the country, not the Queen -- as in fact he was

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 20 December 2014 at 11:10, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Courts have held that evidence inside a home that is visible from the street is admissible, but not if it is seen by means of infra-red. So do you still think technology is irrelevant? Or evolution! It *was* visible from

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 2:02 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com mailto:lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so powerful. Are you sure that more powerful hand-held weapons would change their minds

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 7:13 AM Subject: Re: real A.I. I dont think that democracy can clear the bastardized things that she himself generates. Au contraire, Democracy

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 11:33 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: *From:*everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *meekerdb *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 10:53 AM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: real A.I. On

Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen

2014-12-19 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: Will my brain really be frozen soon after my death? And what shape will it be in? Unknown. Any alzheimers in your family? Is there an escape clause in your contract if you die by head trauma, brain tumor,? Science can

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 12:47 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Democracy is rotten to the core and always was. Democracy represents the greatest and most perverse failure of the human imagination possible. Democracy enshrines argument and warefare as the only way forward in any situation where values are

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 1:38 PM, LizR wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:15, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com mailto:lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
And, no matter what democracy enshrines, that in itself doesn't show that it isn't the best available system. With sufficient checks and balances, and a system of representation that allows for actual representation and enfranchisement (rather than, say, a choice of 2 near-identical corporate

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:58 PM Subject: Re: real A.I. On 12/19/2014 11:33 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: !--#yiv4699829271 _filtered #yiv4699829271

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: real A.I. On 12/19/2014 12:47 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Democracy is rotten to the core and always was. Democracy represents the greatest and most perverse

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 3:36 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: How is Comcast -- to take one example *not* functionally a monopoly? It is a monopoly where I live; I have no other cable provider I can choose from (DirectTV is not cable). No but it's a competitor. Why should you care how

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so powerful. Are you

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 2:02 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held weapons would become so powerful. Are you sure that more

Re: real A.I.

2014-12-19 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
 I'm sure Comcast doesn't have the lion's share of media content (the lion's share means ALL). It does not own everything, but it certainly owns a significant portion of the American media pie. Here is a list of what Comcast currently owns -- this list does not include any additional media

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 5:20 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 1:38 PM, LizR wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:15, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed to foresee that hand-held

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 20 December 2014 at 13:58, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: They also failed

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Friday, December 19, 2014, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 December 2014 at 13:Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Kim Jones
On 20 Dec 2014, at 1:43 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Sadly, however, this isn't the case with guns, where there is an idea that having more lethal weapons around makes you safer. It worked for Ugh the Caveman didn't it? Why wouldn't it continue to work? The thinking in this idea you

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 20 December 2014 at 16:15, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: The criminals may or may not be armed. But the flaw in your reasoning is that the laws would serve only to disarm the law abiding good people, not the criminals for which possession is already out later. Reducing the

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Kim Jones
On 20 Dec 2014, at 2:31 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: No. I would call the police, not the army. (And the chances are fairly good that whoever broke in wouldn't have a gun either.) A..New Zealand. How are house prices around the Tao area, Liz? I might shoot over from

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Kim Jones
On 20 Dec 2014, at 2:54 pm, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: A..New Zealand. How are house prices around the Tao area, Liz? I might shoot over from Sydney for a lookette. Aotearoa. Safest place on Oith. Kim Oops. Taupo -- You received this message because

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 20 December 2014 at 16:24, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: It worked for Ugh the Caveman didn't it? Why wouldn't it continue to work? The thinking in this idea you mention is that marvelous North American statement of oblivion If it ain't broke, why fix it? The reason why guns

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread LizR
On 20 December 2014 at 16:56, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Oops. Taupo Damn, for a moment I thought that Raymond Smullyan had moved here and started his own town (not difficult in NZ) Yes house prices are pretty good, I would say, on what may well be the Southern hemisphere's

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 4:58 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com mailto:lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com mailto:te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 5:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 2:02 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com mailto:lizj...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 5:20 PM, Jason Resch wrote: Only arms appropriate to single soldier would be guaranteed. Not an airforce or a nuclear weapon or even a heavy machine gun which usually has a two or three man crew. Perhaps that was in the minds of the people who wrote the amendment, but

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 5:20 PM, Jason Resch wrote: Only arms appropriate to single soldier would be guaranteed. Not an airforce or a nuclear weapon or even a heavy machine gun which usually has a two or three man crew.

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 5:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 2:02 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Kim Jones
On 20 Dec 2014, at 3:23 pm, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 December 2014 at 16:56, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Oops. Taupo Damn, for a moment I thought that Raymond Smullyan had moved here and started his own town (not difficult in NZ) Yes the Tao is very silent

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:24 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 4:58 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM,

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:43 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 December 2014 at 13:58, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19,

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 9:09 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 5:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread meekerdb
On 12/19/2014 6:43 PM, LizR wrote: On 20 December 2014 at 13:58, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com mailto:lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:31 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 December 2014 at 16:15, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: The criminals may or may not be armed. But the flaw in your reasoning is that the laws would serve only to disarm the law abiding good people, not the

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:51 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 9:09 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:34 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 5:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 4:18 PM, meekerdb

Re: Democracy

2014-12-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 12:13 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 12/19/2014 6:43 PM, LizR wrote: On 20 December 2014 at 13:58, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 December 2014 at 23:02, Telmo Menezes