to store
all intercepted encrypted communications long-term. Then once a quantum
computer of sufficient power is created, they can go back and decrypt this
archive of intercepted encrypted communications.
Jason
>
>
>
> On 5/6/2024 6:16 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
>
> While adopting new
While adopting new algorithms will secure future communications, anyone
with the capacity to intercept and record messages now can hold on to them
until the time large scale quantum computers can be developed to break the
old encryption. There will be some advantage to the first one to get such a
On Tue, Apr 2, 2024, 7:18 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Opinion on what occurs when we load, not an LLM, but a LLM + a Neural Net
> on a low-error, high entanglement, quantum computer. Will this create a
> mind?
>
If you're not
On Fri, Mar 29, 2024, 1:42 AM Dylan Distasio wrote:
> I think we need to be careful with considering LLM parameters as analogous
> to synapses. Biological neuronal systems have very significant
> differences in terms of structure, complexity, and operation compared to
> LLM parameters.
>
>
erence, I appreciate them!
I especially like: "the laws of physics, will be reinterpreted as
statements about information and its transformations."
I think I will include that in my write up. :-)
Jason
>
>
> Il 20/01/2024 01:10 +01 Jason Resch ha scritto:
>
>
> I put
I put together a short write up on the relationship between physics,
information, and computation, drawing heavily from the work of Seth Lloyd
and others:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/124q3ni51E3sf9kMC_sNKgP3ikcl8ou1t/view?usp=sharing
I thought it might be interesting to members of this list
ite universe. But we only have access to a finite portion of
the universe, so perhaps it is fine to ignore the rest of it (infinite
space and universes) at least as it may relate to the measure problem.
Jason
> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 2:52:31 PM UTC+1 Jason Resch wrote:
>
>>
&
s://youtu.be/Kj2lxDf9R3Y
Jason
> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:28:54 AM UTC+1 Jason Resch wrote:
>
>> https://youtu.be/BU8Lg_R2DL0
>>
>> This is timely.
>>
>> Jason
>>
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On Sun, Dec 3, 2023, 4:40 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
> I don't think the Born rule is implied by MWI; but it's already known to
> be the only rational way to define a probability measure on a Hilbert space
> (Gleason's theorem). So in a sense it's implicit in QM regardless of
> interpretation.
>
>
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 4:02 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
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>
> On 11/29/2023 11:23 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
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>
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 12:19 AM Brent Meeker wrote:
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>>
>> On 11/29/2023 8:21 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
>>
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>>
>> On We
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 7:33 AM John Clark wrote:
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>
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> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 4:39 PM Brent Meeker
> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 7:43 PM Brent Meeker
>> wrote:
>>
>> *>>> For comparison you could posit a theory, MWI*, which is MWI plus the
>>> provision that only one exists with
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 12:19 AM Brent Meeker wrote:
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>
> On 11/29/2023 8:21 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 9:57 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
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>> On 11/29/2023 4:58 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
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>>
>> On Wed,
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 10:45 PM Bruce Kellett wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 12:46 PM Jason Resch wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 8:39 PM Bruce Kellett
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 11:59 AM Jason Resch
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>&
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 9:57 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
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>
> On 11/29/2023 4:58 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 7:17 PM Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:49 PM Stathis Papaioannou
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 8:39 PM Bruce Kellett wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 11:59 AM Jason Resch wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 7:17 PM Bruce Kellett
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:49 PM Stathis Papaioannou
>>> wrote:
>>&g
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 8:34 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
>
>
> On 11/29/2023 4:17 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:49 PM Stathis Papaioannou
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 12:34, Bruce Kellett
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 12:02 PM Stathis Papaioannou
>>>
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 7:17 PM Bruce Kellett wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:49 PM Stathis Papaioannou
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 12:34, Bruce Kellett
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 12:02 PM Stathis Papaioannou
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> The Born rule allows you to
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 2:59 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
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>
> On 11/29/2023 4:00 AM, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 7:30 PM Brent Meeker
> wrote:
>
> *> MWI fans assert that it is superior because it doesn't assume the Born
>> rule, only the Schroedinger equation. I wouldn't claim
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 5:12 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
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>
> On 11/28/2023 1:57 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
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>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 4:55 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
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>>
>> On 11/28/2023 1:33 PM, John Clark wrote:
>>
>>
>&g
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023, 4:55 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
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> On 11/28/2023 1:33 PM, John Clark wrote:
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> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 4:22 PM Brent Meeker
> wrote:
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>
> That is incorrect. Schrodinger's equation, the thing that generates the
>>> complex wave function, says nothing, absolutely
On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 8:07 PM Bruce Kellett wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 9:55 AM John Clark wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 5:35 PM Bruce Kellett
>> wrote:
>>
>> >>>
> *and how do they instantiate the probabilities that we measure.*
>
>> There is one observer for
Very well said!
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 7:23 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 7:45 PM Brent Meeker
> wrote:
>
> >> There is plenty of direct evidence that quantum weirdness exists, even
>>> the father of the Copenhagen Interpretation Niels Bohr admitted that
>>> "*Anyone
>>> who
t, but he didn't publish it. He mentioned it in a lecture in Dublin,
in which he predicted that the audience would think he was crazy. Isn't
that a strange assertion coming from a Nobel Prize winner—that he feared
being considered crazy for claiming that his equation, the one that he won
the Nobel Prize for,
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 3:32 PM John Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 1:22 PM Jesse Mazer wrote:
>
> *> Depends what you mean by "couldn't be true"--my understanding is that
>> Einstein's EPR paper was just asserting that there must be additional
>> elements of reality beyond the quantum
That's kind of him to reply.
Aren't functional quantum computers proof that atoms can be in two places
at once?
Jat
On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 6:58 AM John Clark wrote:
> *I read an article called The multiverse is unscientific nonsense
>
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 3:04 PM John Clark wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 1:59 PM Jason Resch wrote:
>
>
> *> How does Apple (or whoever is signing the image and its metadata) know
>> it was taken by an iphone at a particular location?*
>>
>
> Rega
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 1:28 PM John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 1:06 PM Jason Resch wrote:
>
> >> I don't care if Joe Blow signs it or not with his private key that's
>>> on his iPhone because I have no reason to trust Mr. Blow. I want the Apple
>>> C
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 12:31 PM John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 11:54 AM Jason Resch wrote:
>
> >> I agree, but I think most people, myself included, would trust that
>>> the entire GPS satellite system is unlikely to be part of some grand
>>> conspira
On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 10:44 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 11:11 AM Jason Resch wrote:
>
> *> I think such protocols are only useful for verifying whether the image
>> came from an already known and trusted source. I don't see that it could
>> ver
I think such protocols are only useful for verifying whether the image came
from an already known and trusted source. I don't see that it could verify
whether some content is genuine or not if you didn't already know/trust the
entity it is purported to come from (and trust that they would not
On Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 6:19 AM John Clark wrote:
> My answer would be YES, except that Many worlds just needs Schrodinger's
> Equation, but Pilot Wave theory also needs a very complex guiding equation
> that does nothing but make the theory incompatible with special relativity.
> If Occam's razor
By its own definitions IIT is not falsifiable, for it proclaims that a
computer program that gave identical behavior in all situations to another
conscious system, would not be conscious. But since it has identical
behavior there is no objective way to prove this assertion of IIT (that one
system
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 2:56 PM John Clark wrote:
> In the September 1 issue of the Journal science researchers report they
> have found, are using genetic analysis, that the ancestors of the human
> race, as well as those of the Neanderthals and the Denisovans, suffer
> through a severe
As Rob Garrett shows here, there's really nothing mysterious about
entanglement.
Entanglement is merely measurement. The mystery, if there is one, is why
are measurements consistent across time:
https://youtu.be/dEaecUuEqfc?si=psmNck41LbAW4SjV
Jason
On Mon, Sep 4, 2023, 7:48 AM 'scerir' via
I agree with John. What makes superdeterminism weird isn't the determinism
part. It's that the system is also rigged against us to produce the Bell
inequality.
I am not sure if you saw my recent example on extropy-chat with flipping
coins and always seeing heads 66% of the time, no matter what we
On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 8:52 AM John Clark wrote:
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>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:38 AM Jason Resch wrote:
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>> >> 128 bits would probably be enough information to program a Turing
>>> Machine to calculate the infinite series 4(1-1/3 +1/5 -1/7 +...)
On Fri, Sep 1, 2023, 9:16 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 8:41 AM Jason Resch wrote:
>
> *> I think it may be possible actually, to use a mathematical argument to
>> disprove superdeterminism*
>>
>
> I'm not sure a mathematical proof that superdet
I think it may be possible actually, to use a mathematical argument to
disprove superdeterminism, in a manner similar to how Bell disproved
theories that are local, real, and counterfactually definite.
The method would show that there is a necessary underdetermination that can
happen, when a
Thank you John for your thoughts. I few notes below:
On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 7:17 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 1:47 PM Jason Resch wrote:
>
> *> At a high level, states of consciousness are states of knowledge,*
>>
>
> That is certainly true, but what
I would like to propose a theory of consciousness which I think might have
some merit, but more importantly I would like to see what criticism others
might have for it.
I have chosen the name "conditionalism" for this theory, as it is based
loosely on the notion of conditional statements as they
Hamsters and rats can be frozen and reanimated by microwaves:
https://youtu.be/2tdiKTSdE9Y
It was theorized that it would work with larger mammals but the technical
problem is heating the entire animal all at once.
Contrary to the common belief that microwaves heat from the inside out,
they
On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 5:05 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> The expansion of the universe could be a mirage, new theoretical study
> suggests | Live Science
>
Interest rates have the function of marshalling the productive resources of
an economy towards pursuit of the most economically productive ends.
Anything with an economic return less then prevailing interest rates isn't
worth taking out a loan to invest in putting resources towards that
endeavor.
On Sun, Jun 4, 2023, 12:48 AM Brent Meeker wrote:
> "Buy land. They aren't making any more of it."
> --- Mark Twain
>
But perhaps the utility and scarcity of land will diminish after the
development of superhuman AI or the singularity, for any of the following
reasons:
- The potential to
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:16 AM Terren Suydam
wrote:
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>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 6:00 PM Jason Resch wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2023, 4:14 PM Terren Suydam
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 2:27 PM Ja
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 9:05 AM Terren Suydam
wrote:
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>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 5:47 PM Jason Resch wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2023, 3:50 PM Terren Suydam
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:46 PM Jas
On Thu, May 25, 2023, 9:43 AM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
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>
> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 21:28, Jason Resch wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 25, 2023, 12:30 AM Stathis Papaioannou
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 13:
On Thu, May 25, 2023, 12:30 AM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 13:59, Jason Resch wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2023, 9:56 PM Stathis Papaioannou
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 11
On Wed, May 24, 2023, 9:56 PM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 11:48, Jason Resch wrote:
>
> >An RNG would be a bad design choice because it would be extremely
>> unreliable. However, as a thought experiment, it could work. If the visua
On Wed, May 24, 2023, 9:32 PM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 06:46, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:20 PM Stathis Papaioannou
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 24 May 2023 at
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 12:20 PM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 21:56, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2023, 3:20 AM Stathis Papaioannou
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 24 May 2023 at
On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 11:12 AM Brent Meeker wrote:
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>
>
> On 5/23/2023 10:37 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2023, 1:15 AM Stathis Papaioannou
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 04:03, Jason Resch wrote:
>&g
On Wed, May 24, 2023, 5:35 AM John Clark wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 1:37 AM Jason Resch wrote:
>
> *> By substituting a recording of a computation for a computation, you
>> replace a conscious mind with a tape recording of the prior behavior of a
>> consci
On Wed, May 24, 2023, 3:20 AM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 15:37, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2023, 1:15 AM Stathis Papaioannou
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 04
On Wed, May 24, 2023, 1:15 AM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 24 May 2023 at 04:03, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 7:15 AM Stathis Papaioannou
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 23 May 202
On Tue, May 23, 2023, 4:14 PM Terren Suydam wrote:
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>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 2:27 PM Jason Resch wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:15 PM Terren Suydam
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at
On Tue, May 23, 2023, 3:50 PM Terren Suydam wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:46 PM Jason Resch wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2023, 9:34 AM Terren Suydam
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 7:09 AM Jaso
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:15 PM Terren Suydam
wrote:
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>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 11:08 AM Dylan Distasio
> wrote:
>
>
>> And yes, I'm arguing that a true simulation (let's say for the sake of a
>> thought experiment we were able to replicate every neural connection of a
>> human being in
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 1:12 PM John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 Terren Suydam wrote:
>
> *> What was the biochemical or neural change that suddenly birthed the
>> feeling of pain? *
>
>
> It would not be difficult to make a circuit such that that whenever a
> specific binary sequence
On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 7:15 AM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 23 May 2023 at 21:09, Jason Resch wrote:
>
>> As I see this thread, Terren and Stathis are both talking past each
>> other. Please either of you correct me if i am wrong, but in an effort to
>&g
On Tue, May 23, 2023, 9:34 AM Terren Suydam wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 7:09 AM Jason Resch wrote:
>
>> As I see this thread, Terren and Stathis are both talking past each
>> other. Please either of you correct me if i am wrong, but in an effort to
>&g
As I see this thread, Terren and Stathis are both talking past each other.
Please either of you correct me if i am wrong, but in an effort to clarify
and perhaps resolve this situation:
I believe Stathis is saying the functional substitution having the same
fine-grained causal organization
https://youtu.be/wVzuvf9D9BU
Quite interesting, when reflection and step by step processing is used,
it's accuracy jumps to exceed the top percentile of human experts in their
area of expertise, but GPT-4 achieves this performance in all topics.
Jason
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You received this message because you
The extropy chat list has been extensively debating the question of GPTs
potential for understanding and consciousness the past several weeks. I'd
invite you to check it out if that subject interests anyone here.
I cross posted John's post there.
Jason
On Sat, Apr 29, 2023, 6:10 PM spudboy100
"Let an ultraintelligent machine be defined as a machine that can far
surpass all the intellectual activities of any man however clever. Since
the design of machines is one of these intellectual activities, an
ultraintelligent machine could design even better machines; there would
then
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 6:32 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 6:29 PM wrote:
>
> *> Ok JC. As a futurist, would you, based on verification of this data,
>> and all subsequent data, consider the formation of a new hybrid species
>> wherein, we humans opt for neural chipping in with
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 5:39 AM Telmo Menezes wrote:
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>
>
> Over-fitting is less of an issue here because it's trivial to write a
> sentence that's never before been written by any human in history.
>
>
> That is not enough. A small variation on a standard IQ test is still the
> same IQ test for
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 9:37 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 10:15 AM Jason Resch wrote:
>
> Jason, that was a very interesting and insightful post, thanks for posting
> it.
>
Thank you John, I appreciate that. Thank you for sharing that video. I have
passed it
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 9:51 AM Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
> Am Mo, 20. Mär 2023, um 14:28, schrieb Jason Resch:
>
> The video John shared is worth watching. This is significant. It is now
> solving complex math problems which requires a long sequence of steps.
>
>
> I a
The video John shared is worth watching. This is significant. It is now
solving complex math problems which requires a long sequence of steps.
Over-fitting is less of an issue here because it's trivial to write a
sentence that's never before been written by any human in history.
You can tweak
ny case it is important that we solve this problem quickly. If our
machines are conscious, it is important to know that so we don't create and
mistreat a slave race. If our machines have no consciousness whatever, that
is also important to know, if we create robot companions and colleagues, or
pro
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 6:37 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> To get to the point, I did advocate for a bit of skepticism for claiming
> consciousness for a computer system, and the retort was from JC that
> essentially, we cannot even define what makes
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 1:47 PM John Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 11:01 AM John Clark wrote:
>
> *> It might affect you. *
>
>
> I don't think so, but because it involves consciousness I'll never be able
> to prove it, i'll never be able to prove anything about consciousness. But
> I'm
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 11:02 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 7:47 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <
> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> * > 3 and 4 are clever Language Machines.*
>
>
> You can input nothing but a photograph into a modern "Language Machine"
> (by
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 7:47 AM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> The question offered up 6 weeks ago was how does the similarity to animal
> brains arise from a Server Farm?
>
There was this recent paper that showed self-arising similarity between
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 8:45 AM Jason Resch wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 7:59 AM wrote:
>
>> I am a not a neurobiologist, old son. I could try to see if there are any
>> papers out on grey goo becoming self-aware and self-reflecting? My
>> Definition
ousness. If we reproduce such
functions in a machine then we have made a conscious machine.
Jason
> Me don't know?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Resch
> To: Everything List
> Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2023 12:36 am
> Subject: Re: ChatG
From: Stathis Papaioannou
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sun, Mar 12, 2023 9:29 pm
> Subject: Re: ChatGPT's rebuttal to Chomsky
>
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 12:18, Jason Resch wrote:
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> On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 8:57 PM Stathis Papaioannou
> w
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 1:12 PM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Remember no matter haw complex an algorithm it is ultimately a lot of
> Boolean switching acting on what ever data is dumped into it.
>
> LC
>
No matter how complex a human brain, it is ultimately the
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 8:57 PM Stathis Papaioannou
wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 04:12, Lawrence Crowell <
> goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Remember no matter haw complex an algorithm it is ultimately a lot of
>> Boolean switching acting on what ever data is dumped into it.
>
On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 10:06 AM Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
> Am Mi, 1. Mär 2023, um 15:50, schrieb John Clark:
>
> In Alan Turing's original paper in which he propose the thing that we now
> call the Turing Test he gave this example of the sort of thing we might
> ask a machine that claims to be
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023, 6:51 AM John Clark wrote:
> A Washington Post reporter interviewed Microsoft's "Sydney" (apparently
> Bing's real name) this is part of what he said:
>
> *"**Microsoft didn’t tell me anything about allowing journalists to ask
> me questions. I didn’t know that was
We can't say really say what it is or isn't , nor can we say which
properties it has or doesn't on the basis of its design.
Neural network training is universal in the functions it can learn. Neural
networks themselves are universal function approximators. And finally,
prediction of the next
Someone has made an interface to talk to Google's LaMDA AI.
https://beta.character.ai/chat
I can't get over how smart it seems. I can see why it was considered to be
sentient by one of the Google researchers.
Here's some of my conversation with it:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/2R4fHkAyjyHHWTU88
Or because electromagnetic charge is so great.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 10:19 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
> Or because protons are so light.
>
> Brent
>
> On 12/27/2022 2:59 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
> > There's an interesting relationship between the strength of the
> > elec
ere
> any laws?"
> I would say yes, or perhaps evolving laws in an evolving cosmos? But I am
> not the astronomer or physicist.
>
>
> https://bgr.com/science/the-laws-of-physics-dont-actually-exist-according-to-this-physicist/
>
>
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On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 6:47 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 5:59 AM Jason Resch wrote:
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> *> There's an interesting relationship between the strength of the
>> electrostatic repulsion between two protons, and the gravitational
>> attraction
There's an interesting relationship between the strength of the
electrostatic repulsion between two protons, and the gravitational
attraction of protons. It works out such that it takes ~10^54 protons
gathered together in one place before the gravitational attraction can
overwhelm the
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 1:25 AM Mindey I. wrote:
> *How would we go about creating a referencible repository of mathematical
> models?*
Great idea!
> Mathematical formulas used for science are a world-modeling tool useful in
> imagining and decision making. However, entering formula is
Thank you Brent! Happy Thanksgiving to you and the other list members who
may be celebrating.
Jason
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022, 11:46 AM Brent Meeker wrote:
> It's a day to remember and to thank all my Everything friends for the
> stimulating and informative conversations we've had. Enjoy your
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On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 8:53 AM Joel Dietz wrote:
> The Reverse Simulation Hypothesis (RSH) which I provisionally hold to as
> of Aug 20, 2022, states that we live inside a instance of a particular
> universe (c.f. metaverse) of which many other possible parauniverses
> co-exist and, moreover,
On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 6:46 AM Telmo Menezes wrote:
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> Am Mi, 17. Aug 2022, um 21:52, schrieb Brent Meeker:
> > On 8/17/2022 8:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> >> And since you, like me, are a strong believer in Darwinism, we don't
> >> even have to go into the metaphysical. You might also want
Read the rest and maybe it will make sense.
Jason
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 2:16 PM John Clark wrote:
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> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 11:42 AM Jason Resch wrote:
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> *> There are many dwarf galaxies orbiting the Milkyway, and hence also
>> orbiting Uranus. Perhaps there is
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 2:20 AM Alan Grayson wrote:
> Since we have zero information whether the guy is lying or not, we have to
> assume a 50% probability that he's telling the truth. Is there any
> "scientist" here willing to go that far? AG
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> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 3:45:43 PM UTC-6
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 7:45 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 7:07 AM Telmo Menezes
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> >> Well, I like Stephen Wolfram
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> *> I like him too. Mathematica is a beautiful piece of software and I
>> bought his book "A New Kind of Science" when it came out, which is
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 6:47 AM John Clark wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 3:02 PM Joel Dietz wrote:
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> >> And if it "*is basically unprovable by definition*" so you can't prove
>>> or disprove it then it's silly and is an idea so bad it's not even wrong.
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>> *> Then by your
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 5:51 AM Telmo Menezes
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> Am Fr, 12. Aug 2022, um 19:56, schrieb Jason Resch:
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> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 2:04 AM Telmo Menezes
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> Hi Jason,
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> This is really interesting, thanks for sharing. Since Wo
On Sat, Aug 13, 2022, 2:08 PM Joel Dietz wrote:
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>> I think there is more similarity between Wolfram's ideas, and those of
>> Bruno Marchal and Markus P. Müller, which framed things algorithmically and
>> showed how laws of physics can be extracted from the structure of all
>> computations.
On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 4:49 AM ronaldheld wrote:
> Is this vaguely related to Tegmark's mathematical structures?
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> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 2:36:05 PM UTC-4 Jason wrote:
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