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> >* it supports the idea that philosophical zombies could not be produced
> by natural (Darwinian) selection. But it say nothing about the possibility
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On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 7:10 PM Bruce Kellett wrote:
> it supports the idea that philosophical zombies could not be produced by
> natural (Darwinian) selection. But it say nothing about the possibility
> that such beings could be produced artificially; eg. via AI.
But who made the AI? I don't
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 5:51 PM Stathis Papaioannou
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> *There is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which has no
> behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for the theoretical
> possibility of philosophical zombies.*
Then it would be impossible, even in theory, to ever
On 1/23/2024 10:36 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 17:26, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 1/23/2024 9:34 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
here is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness,
which has no behavioural
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On 1/23/2024 9:34 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
here is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which
has no behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for
the theoretical possibility of philosophical zombies. Some
claim that phenomenal
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On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 03:52:46PM -0500, John Clark wrote:
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On 1/23/2024 7:04 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
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> /T//here is yet another level, phenomenal
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 09:34, Brent Meeker wrote:
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 10:01, John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 5:51 PM Stathis Papaioannou
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>> possibility of philosophical
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> *T**here is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which has no
> behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for the theoretical
> possibility of philosophical zombies.*
Assuming that is true and assuming that you yourself
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On 1/23/2024 12:52 PM, John Clark wrote:
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No, Scott Alexander did, he's a
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On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 3:38 PM Brent Meeker
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No, Scott Alexander did, he's a pretty smart guy but I think he got
some things wrong. I did write this in the comments section:
"You say "If we’re
On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 3:38 PM Brent Meeker wrote:
* > Who wrote this? you, JC?*
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No, Scott Alexander did, he's a pretty smart guy but I think he got some
things wrong. I did write this in the comments section:
"You say "If we’re lucky, consciousness is a basic feature of information
Who wrote this? you, JC?
It takes the question to be binary. When humans came to the Americas,
they didn't kill all the monkeys. AI's can merge perfectly well with
humans. Imagine having an actually intelligent ChatGPT wired into your
brain adivising and influencing your decisions, like
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