Re: Science-fiction author Charlie Stross

Emotion is the motivator. It depends on what you like? You may enjoy his trio of novels set in a Space Opera Milky Way, some 10 million years hence. With regular humans yet! Ness Sisters Novels set in the 10th Occupation.  SHADOW CAPTAIN (2019): the second book concerning the Ness sisters,

Re: Science-fiction author Charlie Stross

Thanks, this seems to be the truth as a I co-read Musser's new book as well as Porf. Goff's philosophy from U of Durham.  The giant Hopfield network may be the mind and we are not aware that it is fully aware. How'd we determine this? On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 06:56:57 AM EST, John

Re: Science-fiction author Charlie Stross

On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 7:39 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Philosophically. idea-wise, is what I mean, IF the Autodidactic Universe > is true, IF Vitaly Vanchurin's analysis is true, then it's all up to the > Big, Universe-Mind to

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On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:14 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: * > I'd go with Alastair Reynolds with just about anything he has written.* I read the first 70 or 80 pages of "Revelation Space" but then stopped, I just couldn't get into it.

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Philosophically. idea-wise, is what I mean, IF the Autodidactic Universe is true, IF Vitaly Vanchurin's analysis is true, then it's all up to the Big, Universe-Mind to decide? Yes, JC, Panpsychism. If Mr. Big decides by MWI or some other computer means to create a trillion Meekers, that he

Re: Science-fiction author Charlie Stross

On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:32 PM Brent Meeker wrote: >> A soul is unique but information can be duplicated. > > > *> Not if it's quantum, i.e. in qubits,* > It's true that a qubit can't be duplicated (although it can be transported) but the thing that makes you be you must be conventional

Re: Science-fiction author Charlie Stross

On 12/26/2023 9:17 AM, John Clark wrote: We're sorry we created the Torment Nexus ... The soul is immortal and so, potentially, is information. But there are also important differences: A soul is

Re: Science-fiction author Charlie Stross

JC, Stross does have his own series of HP Lovecraft inspired novels which I found tasty-good over the last several years. Cynical and anti-religious which is why you may enjoy them. For hard scifi, I'd go with Alastair Reynolds with just about anything he has written. Also Stephen Baxter. 

Re: Science of Logic (Hegel)

> On 23 Jun 2020, at 13:21, Philip Thrift wrote: > > Perhaps the "annotated" Hegel's Science of Logic is better. > > This section sets the stage: > > > §1798 formal thinking lays down for its principle that contradiction is > unthinkable; but as a matter of fact the thinking of

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Hegel is in a sort of reappraisal. Hegel & Wittgenstein https://www.academia.edu/36870201/Forms_of_Thought_Forms_of_Life_Hegel_and_WIttgenstein @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this

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To be honest, if you were to condense what Hegel wrote into what is sensible, at least to some degree, it would be a 20 page essay. Hegel's dialectics on how a proposition and it's converse can form a sort of synthesis has some resonance in quantum mechanics. There exist dualities, say the

Re: Science of Logic (Hegel)

Perhaps the "annotated" Hegel's Science of Logic is better. This section sets the stage: §1798 formal thinking lays down for its principle that contradiction is unthinkable; but as a matter of fact the thinking of contradiction is the essential moment of the Notion. However, there is more to

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> On 23 Jun 2020, at 08:31, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > As "digestably" presented on nLab: > > https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/Science+of+Logic That is very vast, and assumed a good knowledge of category theory. There are many interesting things, but this, if used in metaphysics, might again

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

On 20 Feb 2013, at 06:19, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: On Feb 19, 3:51 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: In front of the infinite? To laugh. In front of nothingness? To cry. In between, a bit of both. Bruno - Show quoted text - Nice, thanks. By the way, your photos 'par Lydia

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On 19 Feb 2013, at 07:47, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: On Feb 18, 5:28 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Quite wise statements indeed. But is that not a reason to be cautious with general statement like you did above in the Biswas quote ? Bruno == Oh, we are very

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On Feb 19, 3:51 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: In front of the infinite? To laugh. In front of nothingness? To cry. In between, a bit of both. Bruno - Show quoted text - Nice, thanks. By the way, your photos 'par Lydia Nash' nice too. All the best. = -- You received this

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On 17 Feb 2013, at 19:44, meekerdb wrote: On 2/17/2013 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Feb 2013, at 04:29, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: After proving Euler's identity during a lecture, Benjamin Peirce, a noted American 19th-century philosopher, mathematician, and professor at Harvard

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On 17 Feb 2013, at 23:54, Stephen P. King wrote: On 2/17/2013 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Yes. Euler identity is wonderful. It amazes me also that it makes the square of any complex number into a (non normalized) gaussian: (e^ix)2 = e^(-x2) I love also Euler even deeper identity

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On 18 Feb 2013, at 06:39, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Klein Lachièze-Rey, THE QUEST FOR UNITY – The Adventure of Physics. =. Mathematics is an indispensable and powerful tool where it has been demonstrated that it applies to a real world experience. However, it is inappropriate and, as

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On Feb 18, 12:19 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Socratus, are you able to doubt that physics is the fundamental science? Bruno = In Physics we trust. / Tarun Biswas / http://www.engr.newpaltz.edu/~biswast/ Of course, it is correct, because only Physics can

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On 18 Feb 2013, at 14:35, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: On Feb 18, 12:19 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Socratus, are you able to doubt that physics is the fundamental science? Bruno = In Physics we trust. / Tarun Biswas / http://www.engr.newpaltz.edu/~biswast/

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On Feb 18, 5:28 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Quite wise statements indeed. But is that not a reason to be cautious with general statement like you did above in the Biswas quote ? Bruno == Oh, we are very careful. We do every thing to escape infinity and nothingness.

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On 13 Feb 2013, at 04:29, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: After proving Euler's identity during a lecture, Benjamin Peirce, a noted American 19th-century philosopher, mathematician, and professor at Harvard University, stated that it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we

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On 2/17/2013 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 13 Feb 2013, at 04:29, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: After proving Euler's identity during a lecture, Benjamin Peirce, a noted American 19th-century philosopher, mathematician, and professor at Harvard University, stated that it is absolutely

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On 2/17/2013 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Yes. Euler identity is wonderful. It amazes me also that it makes the square of any complex number into a (non normalized) gaussian: (e^ix)^2 = e^(-x^2) I love also Euler even deeper identity relating the square of the integers and the prime

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Klein Lachièze-Rey, THE QUEST FOR UNITY – The Adventure of Physics. =. Mathematics is an indispensable and powerful tool where it has been demonstrated that it applies to a real world experience. However, it is inappropriate and, as Dingle points out, potentially dangerous, to give

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Feynman about infinities and renormalization ==. So we really do not know exactly what it is that we are assuming that gives us the difficulty producing infinities. A nice problem ! However, it turns out that it is possible to sweep the infinities under the rug , by a certain crude skill , and

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socratus Schrodinger's cat ( as a quantum particle) is inseparable from The law of conservation and transformation energy/mass and this unity shows, how QT is right, saying that there is a life after death. Robittybob1 Do you really believe that Socrates? I find you too obscure to

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Comment: according to (a)+(b), when the cat mass change in cat energy, his image change, the cat is already in life, so there is life after death / laurent.damois / ===.. On Feb 15, 12:28 pm, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:  Schrodinger's cat  and  “ The law of

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On Feb 12, 8:41 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 2/11/2013 10:15 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: ' global conservation of energy can't even be defined for the universe ' Brent It means that global conservation of energy is infinite . No, it means it's undefined - there's

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On 11 Feb 2013, at 20:02, meekerdb wrote: On 2/11/2013 8:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:30, meekerdb wrote: On 2/10/2013 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since

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Euler Identity within a new quantum theory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_XZGOGvuBlIfeature=endscreen ==. On Feb 12, 7:35 am, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:   How to understand Vacuum: T=0K ? ==. Physics (classical + quantum) lives under shadow of Vacuum. I

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After proving Euler's identity during a lecture, Benjamin Peirce, a noted American 19th-century philosopher, mathematician, and professor at Harvard University, stated that it is absolutely paradoxical; we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means, but we have proved it, and

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

I wrote that Planck gave answer to the questions: How to understand Alice's Quantumland ? How to describe the Universe as it really is ? Does somebody disagree with Planck ? = On Feb 10, 7:46 am, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:   How to describe the Universe as it really is ?

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John, On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:14, John Mikes wrote: Bruno, you write mystique. First you mention THE REAL UNIVERSE (who said ther IS one?) In the context (you might quote it, btw), by the real universe I meant what remains real when we grasp that there is no assumed, or primary, physical

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On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:30, meekerdb wrote: On 2/10/2013 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947? Brent- . Science made great technological ( !) progress since 1947,

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On 11 Feb 2013, at 11:51, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: I wrote that Planck gave answer to the questions: How to understand Alice's Quantumland ? How to describe the Universe as it really is ? If comp is true, there is no Physical Universe, only a physical reality, which belongs to the

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On 2/11/2013 2:51 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: I wrote that Planck gave answer to the questions: How to understand Alice's Quantumland ? How to describe the Universe as it really is ? Does somebody disagree with Planck ? Well for one thing it appears that global conservation of energy

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On 2/11/2013 8:08 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 21:30, meekerdb wrote: On 2/10/2013 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947? Brent- . Science made

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' global conservation of energy can't even be defined for the universe ' Brent It means that global conservation of energy is infinite . And this infinite energy belong to the vacuum because that more than 90% of mass ( dark mass/energy ) is hidden in the vacuum How to understand vacuum's

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

How to understand Vacuum: T=0K ? ==. Physics (classical + quantum) lives under shadow of Vacuum. I want throw light on this Vacuum. Three theories explain the Vacuum T=0K : a) theory of ideal gas because its temperature is T=0K, b) QED theory because this theory explain interaction photon /

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On 2/11/2013 10:15 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: ' global conservation of energy can't even be defined for the universe ' Brent It means that global conservation of energy is infinite . No, it means it's undefined - there's no unique way to add up the energy from different parts of a

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Why?  And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947? Brent- . Science made great technological ( !) progress since 1947, but not ' philosophical progress ' (!). We still haven't answers to the questiohs: What is the negative 4D Minkowski continuum ?, What is the quantum

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On 10 Feb 2013, at 07:46, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: How to describe the Universe as it really is ? You should always be clear if you talk about the physical universe (that we can observe), and the real universe, that we are searching. If you assume that the Universe = the physical

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947? Brent- . Science made great technological ( !) progress since 1947, but not ' philosophical progress ' (!). We still haven't answers to the questiohs: What is

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Bruno, you write mystique. First you mention THE REAL UNIVERSE (who said ther IS one?) then you line up a series of IF-s. What about IF NOT? You seem to justify the 'truth' of arithmetics on the basis of human logic (prime #s, 2+2=4, etc.) which may be a flimsy dependence of the Natural Logic

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

On 2/10/2013 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 10 Feb 2013, at 11:13, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Why? And why do you think science has made no progress since 1947? Brent- . Science made great technological ( !) progress since 1947, but not ' philosophical progress ' (!). We

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On 2/10/2013 12:14 PM, John Mikes wrote: Bruno, you write mystique. First you mention THE REAL UNIVERSE (who said ther IS one?) then you line up a series of IF-s. What about IF NOT? You seem to justify the 'truth' of arithmetics on the basis of human logic (prime #s, 2+2=4, etc.) which may be

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

On 2/9/2013 10:46 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: How to describe the Universe as it really is ? =. In his Scientific Autobiography Max Planck wrote : ' The outside world is something independent from man, something absolute, and the quest for the laws which apply to this absolute

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On 07 Feb 2013, at 08:03, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Does somebody know what Vacuum is ? No, we don’t know what Vacuum is. From below I see that you meant here the physical vacuum. If comp is correct the physical vacuum is the statistical sum on all (arithmetical) computations. Why

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On 04 Feb 2013, at 16:22, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Brain – Consciousness , Consciousness – Brain. =. Is consciousness a result of evolution or it is its fuel ? # ‘ Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather consciousness that

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Hi socra...@bezeqint.net To say that nature is absurd is to say that our current understanding of nature --materialism-- is wrong. - Receiving the following content - From: socra...@bezeqint.net Receiver: Everything List Time: 2013-02-05, 06:43:51 Subject: Science is a religion by

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Brain – Consciousness , Consciousness – Brain. =. Is consciousness a result of evolution or it is its fuel ? # ‘ Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain - . . . .’ / Book ‘

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On 2/4/2013 10:22 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Brain – Consciousness , Consciousness – Brain. =. Is consciousness a result of evolution or it is its fuel ? # ‘ Contrary to what everyone knows it is so, it may not be the brain that produce consciousness, but rather consciousness that

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

On Monday, February 4, 2013 10:22:50 AM UTC-5, socr...@bezeqint.net wrote: Brain – Consciousness , Consciousness – Brain. =. Is consciousness a result of evolution or it is its fuel ? I think that in the final analysis, consciousness has no business being in the brain, but the brain is

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Hi socra...@bezeqint.net Feynman was wrong. Life isn't physics, it's intelligence or consciousness, free will. - Receiving the following content - From: socra...@bezeqint.net Receiver: Everything List Time: 2013-01-30, 22:06:54 Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself

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will, qualia, etc are all physics. How could it really be otherwise? Craig - Receiving the following content - *From:* socr...@bezeqint.net javascript: *Receiver:* Everything List javascript: *Time:* 2013-01-30, 22:06:54 *Subject:* Re: Science is a religion by itself

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

On Feb 1, 7:51 pm, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 1, 2013 12:26:43 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote:  Hi socr...@bezeqint.net javascript: Feynman was wrong.  Life isn't physics, it's intelligence or consciousness, free will. If we understand that physics is

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

On 30 Jan 2013, at 13:40, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: About Infinity. / My opinion / How could mere man comprehend infinity? ==. Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity Why is Infinity the cause of the crisis in Physics? Because we don’t know

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

About Infinity. / My opinion / How could mere man comprehend infinity? ==. Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity Why is Infinity the cause of the crisis in Physics? Because we don’t know what infinity is. The concept of infinite / eternal means

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Hi Stephen P. King The subjective universe is like the tao. Whatever is said about the tao is not the tao. So not to worry. - Receiving the following content - From: Stephen P. King Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-29, 15:44:06 Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself

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Hi socra...@bezeqint.net God is life, consciousness and intelligence, not a triangle with three sides. - Receiving the following content - From: socra...@bezeqint.net Receiver: Everything List Time: 2013-01-29, 02:33:15 Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself. .Everybody

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Quantum biology: Do weird physics effects abound in nature? Disappearing in one place and reappearing in another. Being in two places at once. Communicating information seemingly faster than the speed of light. This kind of weird behaviour is commonplace in dark, still laboratories studying

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Biology- - Evolutionary biology - - Physics- - Biophysics - Quantum biology - Evolutionary biophysics on quantomolecular level. ( ! ? ) ==. On Jan 31, 4:06 am, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Quantum biology: Do weird physics effects abound in nature? Disappearing in one

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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:33 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: .Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit If triangles made a God they would give him three sides / Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 / # There were people who said ‘God

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The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible. / Albert Einstein / On Jan 29, 2:49 pm, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:33 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: .Everybody creates his God

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On 1/29/2013 8:49 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:33 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: .Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit If triangles made a God they would give him three sides / Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters,

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

.Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit If triangles made a God they would give him three sides / Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 / # There were people who said ‘God ‘ and thought about Zeus. There are people who say ‘God ‘ and think about Holly Cow. If

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I always considered h to just be a constant of proportionality between energy and frequency that is determined empirically. What a quantum particle is may be metaphysical- that is, beyond measurement and subject to belief. For example I believe in a Quantum Mind- Physical world duality where

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Something that intrigues me is that arithmetics does not seem to exist in the primordial singularity that spawned the 14d Metaverse nor in any singularities that that spawned 12d universes because the quantum fields in the singularities are not discrete. In order to get a discrete structure

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But your question really is what does a physical particle look like? My answer is that they look like strings. But I have to admit that strings are still concepts in the regime of metaphysics.. . . . So string theory IS my religion. / Richard Ruquist / Do you advise me to believe in your

Re: Science is a religion by itself.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:36 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: But your question really is what does a physical particle look like? My answer is that they look like strings. But I have to admit that strings are still concepts in the regime of metaphysics.. . . . So

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Hi meekerdb You have faith that what Mencken said is true, am I not correct ? - Receiving the following content - From: meekerdb Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-20, 18:31:10 Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself. Men become civilized, not in proportion

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Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe, but in proportion to their readiness to doubt. The more stupid the man the heavier his load of faith. --- H. L. Mencken On 1/20/2013 1:31 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: I believe . . . . .you believe your opinion

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On 15 Jan 2013, at 17:20, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Physics and Metaphysics. John Polkinghorne and his book ‘ Quantum theory’. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Polkinghorne === . John Polkinghorne took epigraph for his book ‘ Quantum theory’ the Feynman’s thought : ‘ I think I can

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On 14 Jan 2013, at 20:39, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: I will try to understand situation from today fashion physical point of view. Good luck. I think this is wrong at the start. Provably so if brain works like digital machine at some description level. =. Let us say that Plato's

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Physics and Metaphysics. John Polkinghorne and his book ‘ Quantum theory’. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Polkinghorne === . John Polkinghorne took epigraph for his book ‘ Quantum theory’ the Feynman’s thought : ‘ I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics. ‘ Why?

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On 13 Jan 2013, at 07:22, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: The Seven Hermetic Principles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTFCpkrM2iI =. 1. The Universe is something Intellectual. 2. As above, so below. 3. From potential to active existence. 4. Everything in the Universe can vibrate. 5. Everything

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I will try to understand situation from today fashion physical point of view. =. Let us say that Plato's world of ideas is a dark mass ( because nobody knows that their are). And Leibniz monadas and Kant's things-in- themselves are quantum particles ( because nobody knows their physical

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Hi socra...@bezeqint.net Not exactly prove but explain: 1. means that there is an intelligence beyond the universe 2. is not true according to Leibniz. Above is perfect, below is contingent. 3. According to Leibniz, all existence is active (because alive) 4. I have linked Leibniz to

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Thanks. Is it possible to explain ' monads' of Leibniz or Kant's ' thing-in-itself ' from physical point of view ? Is it possible to explain the 'philosophy of Idealism ' using physical laws and formulas ? =. On Jan 13, 2:30 pm, Roger Cloughrclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi

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Book ‘Dreams of a final theory’. / By Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 / Page 66. ‘ Most scientists use quantum mechanics every day in they working lives without needing to worry about the fundamental problem of its interpretation. . . .they do not worry about it. A year or so

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On 1/11/2013 11:35 PM, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Book ‘Dreams of a final theory’. / By Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 / Page 66. ‘ Most scientists use quantum mechanics every day in they working lives without needing to worry about the fundamental problem of its

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On Jan 11, 7:24 am, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:   Nobody has seen primary matter, but the believer in it usually   attribute it a fundamental role in our existence. ===. What is a primary matter from modern scientific point of view ? It is  'quantum  virtual

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On 08 Jan 2013, at 18:53, meekerdb wrote: On 1/8/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:53, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Theism, like atheism, is unprovable. Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent

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On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:26 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: In beginning was Word. And the Word was written by the formula: T=0K. soc, You may be ripe to believe in string consciousness for its ontological basis is a cubic lattice of Calabi-Yau compact manifolds at

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, 19:48:04 Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself. On 1/7/2013 10:47 AM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 wrote: Consider God, a word for Mind OK, I have a mind therefore I am God. I said it before I'll say it again, for some strange reason that is unknown to me many

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On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:53, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Theism, like atheism, is unprovable. Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent He is incapable of proving His existence to us. I can prove my existence to you I

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the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-08, 09:56:46 Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself. On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:53, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough wrote: Theism, like atheism, is unprovable. Why is that? You're

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On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: there is no reason to identify God with the God-father of Christian theory. Conservative Christianity is deplorable in a great number of ways but it is superior to liberal theology in one important regard, it states that it might be a

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On 1/8/2013 6:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Jan 2013, at 19:53, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net mailto:rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Theism, like atheism, is unprovable. Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent He is

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On Jan 7, 6:42 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:47 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Science is a religion by itself. Why? Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe only using physical laws, formulas, equations. Then

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On Jan 7, 7:53 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Theism, like atheism, is unprovable. Why is that? You're saying that even though God is omnipotent He is incapable of proving His existence to us. I can prove my existence

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On Jan 8, 1:48 am, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 1/7/2013 10:47 AM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 spudboy...@aol.com mailto:spudboy...@aol.com wrote:     Consider God, a word for Mind OK, I have a mind therefore I am God. I said it before I'll say it again, for

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On Jan 8, 12:42 pm, Roger Cloughrclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi meekerdb Russell was a brilliant logician, but that's all he was. Brent To have logical mind is very good. But our brain sometime works unconscious. =. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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Quantum electrodynamics + Biology = Who am I ? ==. Cells make copies of themselves. Different cells make different copies of themselves. Cells come in all shapes and sizes. Somehow these different cells are tied between themselves and during pregnancy process of 9 months gradually ( ! )

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On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:47 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Science is a religion by itself. Why? Becouse the God can create and govern the Universe only using physical laws, formulas, equations. Then God must get very board because that really doesn't leave much for

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- From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jan 7, 2013 12:42 pm Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:47 AM, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: Science is a religion by itself. Why

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- Receiving the following content - From: spudboy100 Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-07, 12:53:11 Subject: Re: Science is a religion by itself. Well, another writer/scientist Bernardo Kastrup considered the universe a run, like computation, because It/He/She is not complete. Hence, our

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On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 spudboy...@aol.com wrote: Consider God, a word for Mind OK, I have a mind therefore I am God. I said it before I'll say it again, for some strange reason that is unknown to me many people are willing to abandon the idea of God but not the word G-O-D. Those letters and in

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