Fears for US science

Apparently Nature, the most respected scientific journal in the world, doesn't think much of Donald Trump. *Trump’s presidential push renews fears for US science* <https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00258-7?utm_source=Live+Audience_campaign=e38e4df02f-briefing-dy-202401231_med

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couldn't get into it. Perhaps I should've stayed with it longer.    John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis wqi   We're sorry we created the Torment Nexus In the above Science-fiction author Charlie Stross says that he tells lies for money and reminds us that science ficti

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Thanks, this seems to be the truth as a I co-read Musser's new book as well as Porf. Goff's philosophy from U of Durham.  The giant Hopfield network may be the mind and we are not aware that it is fully aware. How'd we determine this? On Sunday, December 31, 2023 at 06:56:57 AM EST, John

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On Sat, Dec 30, 2023 at 7:39 PM 'spudboy...@aol.com' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Philosophically. idea-wise, is what I mean, IF the Autodidactic Universe > is true, IF Vitaly Vanchurin's analysis is true, then it's all up to the > Big, Universe-Mind to

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dont-create-the-torment-nexus.html> > > In the above Science-fiction author Charlie Stross says that he tells lies > for money and reminds us that science fiction is fiction, and it's true > that the particular story told is fiction, but if a science-fiction author > is good the world i

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Philosophically. idea-wise, is what I mean, IF the Autodidactic Universe is true, IF Vitaly Vanchurin's analysis is true, then it's all up to the Big, Universe-Mind to decide? Yes, JC, Panpsychism. If Mr. Big decides by MWI or some other computer means to create a trillion Meekers, that he

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On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:32 PM Brent Meeker wrote: >> A soul is unique but information can be duplicated. > > > *> Not if it's quantum, i.e. in qubits,* > It's true that a qubit can't be duplicated (although it can be transported) but the thing that makes you be you must be conventional

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On 12/26/2023 9:17 AM, John Clark wrote: We're sorry we created the Torment Nexus ... The soul is immortal and so, potentially, is information. But there are also important differences: A soul is

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.  On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 12:17:44 PM EST, John Clark wrote: We're sorry we created the Torment Nexus In the above Science-fiction author Charlie Stross says that he tells lies for money and reminds us that science fiction is fiction, and it's true that the particular story told

Science-fiction author Charlie Stross

We're sorry we created the Torment Nexus <https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2023/11/dont-create-the-torment-nexus.html> In the above Science-fiction author Charlie Stross says that he tells lies for money and reminds us that science fiction is fiction, and it's true that the part

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If, is of course central to the duty of the grand jury.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Cc: meekerbr...@gmail.com ; henrik.ohrst...@gmail.com Sent: Mon, Dec 26, 2022 11:03 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Mon, Dec 26, 2022

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 10:13 AM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> There are also flat earthers we need to be wary of. Those people who > want out, if they have reason to be vaccine averse, need to be listened to.* > It should be noted there is a very

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...@gmail.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 26, 2022 12:18 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: > How am I improving things? I support DeSantis's idea. > Life is dangerous, and before seatbelts were installed more

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; henrik.ohrst...@gmail.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 26, 2022 12:18 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: > How am I improving things? I support DeSantis's idea. > Life is dangerous, and before seatbelts were installe

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is covering up deaths doesn't make him wrong. Furthermore, if you want to indite and convict Trumpo as the Dem Jan 6 Committee is trying to do, it's their process.  Let's investigate. Let's follow the science and see if evidence gets uncovered so that people can be properly treated

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On 12/25/2022 9:04 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: How am I improving things? I support DeSantis's idea. Life is dangerous, and before seatbelts were installed more people died. If the vaccine is perilous to a tiny few, you are still good with forcing these to take the vax? Not if we know

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 1:34 PM wrote: *> It's not about fairness,* > Obviously. *> it is about using the adversarial court system* > So you think lawyers and right wing politicians can do a better job than scientists at discovering the objective nature of reality. I disagree. > *This also

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to double down and it clears the vaccines as being 99.99% safe, that is a good thing.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com ; meekerbr...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, Dec 25, 2022 12:38 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sun, Dec

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ssage- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com ; meekerbr...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, Dec 25, 2022 12:38 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 11:41 AM wrote: > The reason I repeat is that they only reason you op

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s long as the vaccine is in use, and investigated by people who, unlike Ron DeSantis, have serious scientific chops? And do you really believe the outcome of DeSantis's ridiculous grand jury of scientific illiterates and religious fanatics is not already known and, Science be damned, is prede

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here, and not the success of the vaccines, it is for those that may be susceptible to damage (if any?). I am against any potential suppression of scientific evidence.  So, if we find out that some people would die if they took a certain heart medication, based on science, would you object to them

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ride!" -Bette Davis All About Eve.Stay warm!  It's cold everywhere.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com ; meekerbr...@gmail.com Sent: Sun, Dec 25, 2022 5:43 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sat, De

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about an > investigation.* > I am very confident the conclusion that will be reached by Ron fucking DeSantis's fucking Grand Jury will be whatever it is that they figure will be most politically advantageous to the Republican death cult and will have absolutely positively *NOTHING* to do with sci

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in 1922 and deposed the Turkish sultan Mehmed > VI in the same year. The movement finally collapsed when Atatürk abolished > the caliphate altogether in 1924”. > > From: everything-list@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Samiya Illias > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 5:04 AM > T

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any better by going at it the way you do now? F and h no. Grow up and start doing science without all the whining. What are you Mr spudboy actually doing to improve this? I implement vaccination and best intensive care practice. I report side effects and complications. I follow up effects in reality

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24, 2022 9:26 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics Vaccination transform a dangerous pandemic into an "also" as in the patient also has covid.But and that is a big but, covid is not the reason for the patient being in intensive care or whatever. Without vaccination we w

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am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:58 AM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >  Let's have the truth and be done with it. Do the vaccines harm a fraction of > young people or not? Not.John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 0uo t-

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24, 2022 8:40 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 11:58:06 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote: Oh, come on admit it? What are you afraid of? Let's have the truth and be done with it. Do the vaccines harm a fraction of young people or not? That simple

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Vaccination transform a dangerous pandemic into an "also" as in the patient also has covid. But and that is a big but, covid is not the reason for the patient being in intensive care or whatever. Without vaccination we would still be in the danger zone where a covid infection is a severe danger to

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On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:58 AM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Let's have the truth and be done with it. Do the vaccines harm a > fraction of young people or not?* > Not. John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at Extropolis

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; > > -Original Message- > From: Brent Meeker > To: everyth...@googlegroups.com > Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2022 9:45 pm > Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics > > > > On 12/18/2022 10:02 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > > So, you're convinced that there is

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, science, and politics On 12/18/2022 10:02 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: So, you're convinced that there is no concern for adverse reactions from the mRNA vaccinations? You're asking that when there's concern for Jewish space lasers?  concern for Lizard people posing

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ce Crowell To: Everything List Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 11:36 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 6:01:52 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:19 PM wrote: />the thing is scientifically is not to do what the dem-progress

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 7:47 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > *> Well, young people have died so let us see if it is probable that it > was instead some unknown or underlying medical condition, rather than mRNA? > It's a good reason to see,

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please.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cydkTy6GmFA Goodbye, Harry, er, uh, Larry! ;-) -Original Message- From: Lawrence Crowell To: Everything List Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2022 7:36 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM UTC-6 spudb...

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-report.pdf?sc_lang=en Here is from the British Medical Journal calling for more research because of the deaths triggering concern.https://www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2527 The Journal Science-https://www.science.org/content/article/heart-risks-data-gaps-fuel-debate-covid-19-boosters-young-people Last

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On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 3:07:48 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > > Am I trying to harm Pfizer and Moderna because they send Schiff money? > No. They will send the DNC money whether I stomp my feet or not. > > So, now that we've got that all solved. > Sure big pharma sends

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 4:07 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > Has there been deaths from the vaccinations? I don't know? All I say is, > let's have a look? > That doesn't seem like a good question to ask if we're thinking about policy, any

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-Original Message- From: Brent Meeker To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2022 2:47 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics Bullshit.  Potato Boy's only concern is to foment distrust of the government.  Brent On 12/21/2022 5:50 AM, spudboy100 via

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feet or not. So, now that we've got that all solved. -Original Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com ; meekerbr...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2022 11:42 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:44 AM w

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@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 8:22 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 11:57, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: I have had the Pfizer shots and advocate these for most of our population. On the other hand, if some people have allergic

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to volunteer for this vitally important activity! > However, given the fact that 12.7 billion shots have already been given > don't you imagine this has already been done, and done many many times by > people with vastly greater knowledge and experience with the complex > science of statistic

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; meekerbr...@gmail.com Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2022 10:05 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 9:20 AM wrote: > So, you are indicating you are incurious about a mandated drug because it > offends your political views? No, it indicates I am incurious about YOUR m

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olunteer for this vitally important activity! > However, given the fact that 12.7 billion shots have already been given > don't you imagine this has already been done, and done many many times by > people with vastly greater knowledge and experience with the complex > scienc

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@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 2:07 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 1:48 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: > I'd point out that the large majority of people in the US now have concerns > over these particular vaccines If they do it's because of co

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So, you are indicating you are incurious about a mandated drug because it offends your political views? That is not following the science. We may have zero choice but to insist on injections whether it kills somebody or not? I would support the finding out of the truth, whatever the drawback

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for these people, IF there is suppression of evidence, is a concern as well. -Original Message- From: Stathis Papaioannou To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 8:22 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 at 11:57, spudboy100 via Everything List

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u imagine this has already been done, and done many many times by people with vastly greater knowledge and experience with the complex science of statistics than you have, in fact even greater than the mathematical knowledge that the wonderful Ron DeSantis has? > > *Personally, I hope t

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t about what they > could know with certainty throughout this process, and honest enough to > admit where things were not as clear cut. > > Instead of basing policy that would have a huge impact on businesses and > people's livelihoods on science, many decisions were made arbitrarily

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On 12/20/2022 4:08 PM, Dylan Distasio wrote: You can stay in the bubble if you'd like, and ignore the shift in public perception, but it's clearly real, and is not just a fringe when only 14% of the US population has gotten the latest booster.   If people actually had a large amount of

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o > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 1:47 pm > Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics > > I'd point out that the large majority of people in the US now have > concerns over these particular vaccines based on how public health policy > has

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-Zenica, the Chinese crap (50% effective) taking Paxlovid, masking up?  -Original Message- From: Dylan Distasio To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 1:47 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics I'd point out that the large majority of people in the US now

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.  Personally, I hope there is nothing to the mRNA accusation. Because it makes life easier.   -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Cc: meekerbr...@gmail.com Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 12:41 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Tue, Dec 20, 2022

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here things were not as clear cut. > > Instead of basing policy that would have a huge impact on businesses and > people's livelihoods on science, many decisions were made arbitrarily: > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/graisondangor/2021/09/19/cdcs-six-foot-social-distancing-r

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upfront about what they could know with certainty throughout this process, and honest enough to admit where things were not as clear cut. Instead of basing policy that would have a huge impact on businesses and people's livelihoods on science, many decisions were made arbitrarily: https

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On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 1:48 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: > *I'd point out that the large majority of people in the US now have > concerns over these particular vaccines* > If they do it's because of constant scaremongering about the safety of the mRNA vaccine from right wing anti-science

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this process, and honest enough to admit where things were not as clear cut. Instead of basing policy that would have a huge impact on businesses and people's livelihoods on science, many decisions were made arbitrarily: https://www.forbes.com/sites/graisondangor/2021/09/19/cdcs-six-foot-social

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looks great for DeSantis. If people oppose him, it won't be for have a > grand jury look at the malpractices of the Dem party funder$. > > Back to the science article, and we are talking about 2 things. > Statically we are looking at 1/100 of vaccine recipients. That a lot of > people s

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they are on the receiving end of the mortality.  -Original Message- From: Lawrence Crowell To: Everything List Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 8:41 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 5:05:26 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 9:12 PM

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...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 6:04 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 9:12 PM wrote: >People who from an epidemiological point of view, get suppressed by >ideologists such as you, John. What are going for,

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together. It might prevent the deaths of young people. For oldies? Yeah, take the vax.  -Original Message- From: Lawrence Crowell To: Everything List Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 8:43 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics This tee-shirt is nauseating. LC  On Tuesday, December 20, 2022

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...@aol.com; everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Dec 20, 2022 2:51 am Subject: Re: Fwd: Death, science, and politics On 12/19/2022 11:08 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: The language is Hindi I believe. That's all you've got say about your Champion. There are others

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Such a nice little proggie puppet! Delightfully cheering. It looks great for DeSantis. If people oppose him, it won't be for have a grand jury look at the malpractices of the Dem party funder$. Back to the science article, and we are talking about 2 things.  Statically we are looking at 1/100

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althdefense.org/defender/fda-study-covid-vaccine-blood-clot-elderly-et/ > Core report: > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22014931 > > Counter argument- > DeSantis' anti-vax grand jury petition suggests that a rise in > cardiac-related mortality in young p

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On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 5:05:26 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 9:12 PM wrote: > > *>People who from an epidemiological point of view, get suppressed by >> ideologists such as you, John. What are going for, Covid reduction or >> obedience to the Democratic

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On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 9:12 PM wrote: *>People who from an epidemiological point of view, get suppressed by > ideologists such as you, John. What are going for, Covid reduction or > obedience to the Democratic Party? * > I'm for not knocking a 100,000 ton nuclear aircraft carrier out of

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-covid-vaccine-blood-clot-elderly-et/ Core report: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22014931 Typical bad medical statistics.  They set a threshold for significance of 1% false positive, but then applied it to 14 different "outcomes".  If there's a 1% chanc

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The language is Hindi I believe.  There are others looking at the vaccines more carefully than you and John.Advocacy journalism follows:  https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-study-covid-vaccine-blood-clot-elderly-et/ Core report: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii

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ng List To: johnkcl...@gmail.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 19, 2022 9:12 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics People who from an epidemiological point of view, get suppressed by ideologists such as you, John. What are going for, Covid reduction or obedience to

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Everything List To: johnkcl...@gmail.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 19, 2022 9:12 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics People who from an epidemiological point of view, get suppressed by ideologists such as you, John. What are going for, Covid reduction or obedience

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cost too much?"  No surprise there!  -Original Message- From: Brent Meeker To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 19, 2022 5:17 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On 12/19/2022 2:02 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Shipboard, that makes sen

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ion-of-harmful-language-initiative-11671489552?mod=opinion_lead_pos2 -Original Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 19, 2022 5:53 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 5:02 PM wr

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On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 5:02 PM wrote: *> Shipboard, that makes sense. People assigned to land are a different > story. Close quarters aboard ship is one thing, airplanes too.* > So the Navy is forced to hire people who can't sail on ships, the Air Force is forced to hire people who can't fly

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On 12/19/2022 2:02 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Shipboard, that makes sense. People assigned to land are a different story. Yea, we won't pack them in airplanes and the back of trucks and armored personnel carriers; we'll have the march to war keeping six foot distance. Why do

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should have a way to screen for vaccination susceptibility. Resulting in less deaths.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Dec 19, 2022 7:27 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 5:26 PM

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On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 5:26 PM wrote: >* your party and your people in the CDC insisted that upon pain of being > fired at hospitals, the military, the MUST be vaccinated.* GOOD! I don't think I need to explain why it's not a good idea to hire walking COVID-19 virus factories to work around

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l for human minds that never made it to consciousness, minds > cut off suddenly, everyone else needs to... > Recovered. The biggest data recovery project in the universe (maybe?). It may > never happen, it may be impossible, but given enough time & science, I will > say yes. > &g

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That's "De Sanctimonious" to you,  John. Brent  :-) On 12/18/2022 1:27 PM, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 4:20 PM wrote: /> Anaphylactic shock is more treatable than the most aggressive cancers, but NOT if you don't know that you are susceptible to it!! This is what

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, but given enough time & science, I will say yes.  Others can and should dispute this. We each have our limits and our own tolerances for things & some do better than others.  For myself, a layman of some sort, I tend to be attracted to science analyses and philosophies that indicate the m

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age- > From: John Clark > To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 6:39 am > Subject: Death, science, and politics > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:10 PM wrote: > > *> Hypersonics only do 13.5 KPH. However, their trick is swerving in mid > air

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, buddy, follow the science down the rabbit hole. Don't axiomatically assume that scientists or politicians are virtuous. Parties are virtuous? Hell no!  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 5:00 pm Subject

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On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 4:44 PM wrote: *> Let's find out,* And you expect DeSantis and his ridiculous grand jury to do that? > especially if there have been reported problems with people dying. > With 12.7 billion vaccine shots given of course there are reports of people dying soon after

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lawfare, now we do lawfare? My worship of the Republican Gov is nothing compared to the dem slavish obedience to Fauci.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 4:27 pm Subject: Re: Death, science

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Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 2:45 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 2:07 PM spudboy...@aol.com wrote: > you will grow to adore DeSantis, It's possible, I'm not tougher

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On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 4:20 PM wrote: *> Anaphylactic shock is more treatable than the most aggressive cancers, > but NOT if you don't know that you are susceptible to it!! This is what > DeSantis wants* And DeSantis expects to obtain new medical knowledge from fucking lawyers running a

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morality lectures because atheists have no magic friends in the sky.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 1:08 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 12:57 PM wrote

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On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 2:07 PM spudboy...@aol.com wrote: *> you will grow to adore DeSantis,* It's possible, I'm not tougher than Winston Smith and in 1984 he grew to love Big Brother after being horribly tortured and brainwashed in the Ministry Of Love, and he sincerely believed that 2+2=5

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no good reason not to look at if some people suffer death from covid backing. We're talking medical science here, supposedly.   On politics, you will grow to adore DeSantis, as I have, for His, is the Might, the Power, and the Glory!!   His holy visage doth grace the land, from the holy city

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On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 12:53 PM wrote: *> Yes, you and the Christians are opposed to my Brave New World approach > to birthing. It is however a way up from abortion and if we are going to be > a more, ethical species, this would be a huge step. It will sell, but its > not being offered by

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On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 12:57 PM wrote: *> If somebody has an adverse reaction to peanuts you don't feed them > peanuts* You would if eating a peanut prevented cancer because anaphylactic shock we can deal with, cancer is a bit more difficult. > Your dismissiveness on people's lives and

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stumbled across such a study, you'd peruse it?  -Original Message- From: Lawrence Crowell To: Everything List Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 11:36 am Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 6:01:52 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:19

Re: Death, science, and politics

Your dismissiveness on people's lives and whether or not they have an adverse reaction to the mRNA dosing is predicated on your ideology and not medical science. If somebody has an adverse reaction to peanuts you don't feed them peanuts. It's a medical question that needs an answer. Very simple

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, but its not being offered by progressives, nor, conservatives, because of their dedication to ideology.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List Sent: Sun, Dec 18, 2022 6:39 am Subject: Death, science, and politics On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:10 PM

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On Sunday, December 18, 2022 at 6:01:52 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:19 PM wrote: > > *>the thing is scientifically is not to do what the dem-progressives do >> which is demand that everyone get vaccinated, but to have some biological >> screening done to

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On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:19 PM wrote: *>the thing is scientifically is not to do what the dem-progressives do > which is demand that everyone get vaccinated, but to have some biological > screening done to prevent those with medical-genetic dispositions to be > harmed by vaccination damage, to

Death, science, and politics

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:10 PM wrote: *> Hypersonics only do 13.5 KPH. However, their trick is swerving in mid > air to avoid being hit by incoming anti-missiles.* > I have three comments on that: 1) The US does not have a viable defense against ICBMs, it didn't have one 60 years ago when

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left and right because of clots and carditis we oughta know? If this is just exaggeration, let's find out.  -Original Message- From: Stathis Papaioannou To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Dec 17, 2022 10:19 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sun, 18 Dec 2022

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On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 at 13:09, Dylan Distasio wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:38 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > >> >> Why would you want the vaccine to stay in your left bicep? Does someone >> suppose that a pertussis, or measles or polio vaccine just stayed in one >> tissue? And the word

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, all the time be seen through a political-ideological lense.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Dec 17, 2022 8:01 pm Subject: Re: Death, science, and politics On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 6:43 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: > The risk/rew

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