Re: A question for Trump supporters

On Monday, March 4, 2024 at 11:20:44 PM UTC+1 Brent Meeker wrote: On 3/4/2024 12:24 PM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 2:41 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: *> Whether Trump was actually guilty of insurrection is a moot point from a legal perspective in ruling on a state taking this

Re: A question for Trump supporters

On 3/4/2024 12:24 PM, John Clark wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 2:41 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: /> Whether Trump was actually guilty of insurrection is a moot point from a legal perspective in ruling on a state taking this kind of action.   It would have to come from Congress./

Re: A question for Trump supporters

Out of curiosity, have you read the full text of the ruling? On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 4:47 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > The liberal Supremes joined the MAGAts in dodging responsibility. Were > Confederate officers who previously served in the US Army denied election > one-by-one by acts of Congress?

Re: A question for Trump supporters

The liberal Supremes joined the MAGAts in dodging responsibility. Were Confederate officers who previously served in the US Army denied election one-by-one by acts of Congress?  I don't think so. Why is any "action" needed unless someone challenges their disqualification on factual grounds.

Re: A question for Trump supporters

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 2:41 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: > *> Whether Trump was actually guilty of insurrection is a moot point from > a legal perspective in ruling on a state taking this kind of action. It > would have to come from Congress.* > Then why didn't the 14th amendment specify that

Re: A question for Trump supporters

Even if we allow for the sake of a hypothetical that Trump directly was part of an "insurrection," states have no authority to make this determination around eligibility under the 14th amendment.The ruling was unanimous including from liberals on the court who despise Trump, and does nothing

Re: A question for Trump supporters

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 2:16 PM howardmarks wrote: *> How can it be construed as "insurrection" to ask a group not at the > Capitol, words to the effect of "peacefully" going to the Capital to > "lawfully protest . . . "? * > Something like that couldn't be interpreted as an insurrection, but I

Re: A question for Trump supporters

Sorry, Supreme Court did not ignore the 14th Amendment to the USC. How can it be construed as "insurrection" to ask a group not at the Capitol, words to the effect of "peacefully" going to the Capital to "lawfully protest . . . "?  And, it's doubtful 2nd Amendment will be allowed by the owners

A question for Trump supporters

Now that the Supreme Court has decreed that it's constitutional to ignore the 14th amendment to the US Constitution and allow Trump to remain on the ballot, would it also be constitutional to ignore the second amendment to the Constitution? John K ClarkSee what's on my new list at

Re: A question for Trump supporters

e such disability.*" > > The case now goes to the Supreme Court, I know that Trump supporters want > the court to keep Trump on the ballot, but* if it's OK to just ignore the > 14th amendment, why isn't it also OK to just ignore the second amendment > and confiscate all you

Re: A question for Trump supporters

ution of the United States, *shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion *against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability./" The case now goes to the Supreme Court, I know that Trump supporters want

A question for Trump supporters

In Illinois since the 1950s red scare it has been traditional for Republican presidential candidates to sign a loyalty oath swearing not to try to overthrow the government. Trump signed that oath in 2016 and 2020 (and broke his oath in 2021), but this year he has refused to even sign it. So unless

A question for Trump supporters

gaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.*" The case now goes to the Supreme Court, I know that Trump supporters want the court to keep Trump on the ballot, bu

Re: Trump Supporters?

out there. I watch CNN and MSNBC regularly, and the way I see it is that their presentations are essentially objective, but negative wrt Trump because he has earned it. AG > > > On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 9:59:21 AM UTC-5, medinuclear wrote: >> >> [*Philip Benjamin*] &g

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 12:47 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > *> I suppose the distinction between a capitalist system is the > corporations own the government, while in a socialist or communist system > the government own the corporations.* There will always be

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 7:45:46 PM UTC+2, spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > Well Krupp Steel and the other German industrialists "believed," they > could control dolf, via the money supply. They, in 1929, as I recall, > founded the a. hitler fund, to finance his career. When the 1929 stock >

Re: Trump Supporters?

://fee.org/articles/fdrs-folly-how-roosevelt-and-his-new-deal-prolonged-the-great-depression/ -Original Message- From: Lawrence Crowell To: Everything List Sent: Tue, Jun 4, 2019 12:47 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 3:45:11 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: On Mon, J

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 3:45:11 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 12:33 PM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > > The equivalency between the two parties is often drawn with the fact >> they both take corporate campaign donations. >> > > I don't mind that so much, governments

Re: Trump Supporters?

it croaked,  not because of nefarious conservatives, but for inbuilt ideological viewpoints, or what's an excreta-covered Los Angeles for?   -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Jun 3, 2019 10:34 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? On Mon, Jun 3, 2019

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:00 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Well, to tell the world that Most Americans do not have insurance > coverage would be one of the democrat lies. > I never said most don't have insurance, but before Obamacare 41 million

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world. So when they wreck this place, they can set up shop, elsewhere.  -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Jun 3, 2019 9:12 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 7:32 PM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: >Yes indeed, but it

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 7:32 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *>Yes indeed, but it is still rule by rich Rogues whether the Koch's or > Georgy Soros. * > Do you think there is a difference between the rich ruling that the rich should pay more taxes to

Re: Trump Supporters?

the in this world, cash is the ghost in the machine. -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Jun 3, 2019 6:54 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:10 PM spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: So, you don't feel that the democrats are funded

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:10 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: So, you don't feel that the democrats are funded by billionaires as well > and do the billionaires bidding? > It depends on the billionaire. Warren Buffett and Bill Gates agree with the

Re: Trump Supporters?

feel it's a republic? -Original Message- From: John Clark To: everything-list Sent: Mon, Jun 3, 2019 9:13 am Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 4:18 PM howardmarks wrote: > I think the labels "fascist" or "liberal" of A. and B. are distorti

Re: Trump Supporters?

:14 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? About every century there is a tendency for more sociopathic disordered or malignant narcissists, such as t'Rump *-- see below for more, to assume power. Last century this occurred with the rise of communism in Russia and fascism in western Europe. The century

Re: Trump Supporters?

Yeah, of course!  Nyet Problemy, comrade!   -Original Message- From: PGC To: Everything List Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2019 7:29 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? On Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 11:47:24 PM UTC+2, spudb...@aol.com wrote: Darwin bless us all! Lol, not you. He'd say you're

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 12:33 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > The equivalency between the two parties is often drawn with the fact they > both take corporate campaign donations. > I don't mind that so much, governments have caused vastly more misery in the world

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right wing was for smaller less intrusive government but > Trump wants the government to tell women what they can and can't do with > their bodies. > > I don't use the word "fascist" lightly, I'm not in the habit, as some on > the left are, of calling anyone who's politi

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 9:37 AM Philip Thrift wrote: *> Name a single progressive law passed when there was a Republican > president and Republican House and Senate since 1932.* > To be honest at this point I don't think the distinction between progressive and non-progressive is very important.

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;, the right wing was for smaller less intrusive government but > Trump wants the government to tell women what they can and can't do with > their bodies. > > I don't use the word "fascist" lightly, I'm not in the habit, as some on > the left are, of calling anyone who

Re: Trump Supporters?

t do with their bodies. I don't use the word "fascist" lightly, I'm not in the habit, as some on the left are, of calling anyone who's politics I disagree with a fascist, but when it comes to Trump supporters I sincerely think the word is justified; 53% of republicans say they woul

Re: Trump Supporters?

> On 3 Jun 2019, at 04:37, PGC wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 2:14:29 AM UTC+2, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > About every century there is a tendency for more sociopathic disordered or > malignant narcissists, such as t'Rump *-- see below for more, to assume > power. Last century

Re: Trump Supporters?

prejudicial labels. I don't identify > as either... > Cheers! HowardM > > > -Original Message- > From: Philip Thrift > To: Everything List > Sent: Sat, Jun 1, 2019 3:01 pm > Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? > > > > When America is presented

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Monday, June 3, 2019 at 2:14:29 AM UTC+2, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > About every century there is a tendency for more sociopathic disordered or > malignant narcissists, such as t'Rump *-- see below for more, to assume > power. Last century this occurred with the rise of communism in Russia

Re: Trump Supporters?

About every century there is a tendency for more sociopathic disordered or malignant narcissists, such as t'Rump *-- see below for more, to assume power. Last century this occurred with the rise of communism in Russia and fascism in western Europe. The century before beginning with the end of

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 4:23 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-LTRwZb35A > > > Humor is the final defense. > That is great! Thank you Lawrence. John K Clark -- You received this

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 11:47:24 PM UTC+2, spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > > Darwin bless us all! > > Lol, not you. He'd say you're voting against your own survival, work, meds, and benefits. He'd call you too stupid to bless. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Trump Supporters?

: howardmarks To: spudboy100 via Everything List Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2019 4:18 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? I think the labels "fascist" or "liberal" of A. and B. are distortions. There are lots of con-artists, blowhards, cultured and/or intellectual people that h

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 6:53:36 PM UTC+2, spudb...@aol.com wrote: > > Because B lies all the more to try to get elected? > > I'll bite the conspiracy discourse bait today by phrasing as follows: There are lying corrupt fucks on every side and if you don't identify with simplistic politics

Re: Trump Supporters?

- > From: Lawrence Crowell > > To: Everything List > > Sent: Sat, Jun 1, 2019 2:43 pm > Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? > > We are weavers in the web that we wove. We are victims of this > technological marvel called the media, which now includes the internet. > Jo

Re: Trump Supporters?

3 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: Because B lies all the more to try to get elected? -Original Message- From: Philip Thrift To: Everything List Sent: Sat, Jun 1, 2019 3:01 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? When America is presented a choice: A. con-artist, blowhard fascist B. cu

Re: Trump Supporters?

Because B lies all the more to try to get elected?  -Original Message- From: Philip Thrift To: Everything List Sent: Sat, Jun 1, 2019 3:01 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? When America is presented a choice: A. con-artist, blowhard fascistB. cultured, intellectual liberal A always

Re: Trump Supporters?

site that goes right to the money trail? Say no more!  opensecrets.org     -Original Message- From: Lawrence Crowell To: Everything List Sent: Sat, Jun 1, 2019 2:43 pm Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? We are weavers in the web that we wove. We are victims of this technological marvel

Re: FW: Trump Supporters?

sm-without-using-too-much-philosophical-jargon > > > ~~~ > > *From:* everyth...@googlegroups.com < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Telmo Menezes > *Sent:* Saturday, June 1, 2019 12:21 PM > *To:* Everything List > >

FW: Trump Supporters?

t Subject: Re: Trump Supporters? On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, at 16:59, Philip Benjamin wrote: [Philip Benjamin] Trump supporters? That is a phrase inappositely coined by America haters—i.e. the Fascist, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Humanist PAGANS I went to Wikipedia to look for a

Re: Trump Supporters?

fter and hustler. > > LC > > On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 9:59:21 AM UTC-5, medinuclear wrote: >> >> [*Philip Benjamin*] >> >> Trump supporters? That is a phrase inappositely coined by America >> haters—i.e. the Fascist, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive,

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and t'Rump is a pure grifter and hustler. LC On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 9:59:21 AM UTC-5, medinuclear wrote: > > [*Philip Benjamin*] > > Trump supporters? That is a phrase inappositely coined by America > haters—i.e. the Fascist, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Hu

Re: Trump Supporters?

I don't understand why Philip Benjamin dislikes the term "Trump suporter" so much, I don't see why it's fundamentally different from other types of suporters, like Republican suporters or athletic suporters. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, at 16:59, Philip Benjamin wrote: > [*Philip Benjamin*] > Trump supporters? That is a phrase inappositely coined by America haters—i.e. > the Fascist, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Humanist PAGANS > I went to Wikipedia to look for a definition

Re: Trump Supporters?

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 10:59 AM Philip Benjamin wrote: > *Trump supporters*? > Yes, aka morons. That's why the 5 states with the least educated population all went for Trump and the 10 states with the highest education all went for Clinton. > *>Over 62 million adults, bona f

RE: Trump Supporters?

[Philip Benjamin] Trump supporters? That is a phrase inappositely coined by America haters-i.e. the Fascist, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, Liberal, Humanist PAGANS or WAMP-the-Ingrate, who hate the very foundations and founders of this Republic. Over 62 million adults, bona fide American