Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-17 Thread Gabriel Bodeen
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:10:19 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:31, meekerdb wrote: On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics. Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-17 Thread David Nyman
On 17 March 2014 13:56, Gabriel Bodeen gabebod...@gmail.com wrote: If there isn't already, there needs to be some fiction about Buddhist comp-believers trying to escape immortality. To quote Wikipedia: In Indian religions, the attainment of nirvana is moksha, liberation from the cycle of

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2014, at 22:26, LizR wrote: On 17 March 2014 05:31, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics. Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM will

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Mar 2014, at 15:10, David Nyman wrote: On 17 March 2014 13:56, Gabriel Bodeen gabebod...@gmail.com wrote: If there isn't already, there needs to be some fiction about Buddhist comp-believers trying to escape immortality. To quote Wikipedia: In Indian religions, the attainment of

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote: On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote: This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape of ideas), but it has been on my mind recently. If you subscribe to the

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-16 Thread Richard Ruquist
Bruno: That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics. Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM will still provide the rooms for immortality (not necessarily a good news). Then, in such reasoning, QM uses comp, and comp by itself leads to many

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2014, at 08:39, Richard Ruquist wrote: Bruno: That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics. Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM will still provide the rooms for immortality (not necessarily a good news). Then, in such

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-16 Thread meekerdb
On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote: On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote: This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape of ideas), but it has been on my

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2014, at 17:31, meekerdb wrote: On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote: On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote: This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-16 Thread LizR
On 17 March 2014 05:31, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: That's correct, but we assume usually classical quantum mechanics. Then, even if GR digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM will still provide the rooms for immortality

Universal Programming

2014-03-15 Thread Matt Bell
This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape of ideas), but it has been on my mind recently. If you subscribe to the theories of MWI/UDA, then the idea of quantum immortality/suicide follows (an observer

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Mar 2014, at 03:21, Matt Bell wrote: This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape of ideas), but it has been on my mind recently. Welcome Matt. If you subscribe to the theories of MWI/UDA,

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-15 Thread LizR
I read a detective story with this subject. I don't wish to spoil it for anyone, so stop reading now if that's a worry! - I think it may have been in The strange case of Mrs Hudson's cat by Colin Bruce. Someone is found dead, connected up to some sort

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-15 Thread meekerdb
On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote: This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape of ideas), but it has been on my mind recently. If you subscribe to the theories of MWI/UDA, then the idea of quantum

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-15 Thread meekerdb
On 3/15/2014 2:58 AM, LizR wrote: I read a detective story with this subject. I don't wish to spoil it for anyone, so stop reading now if that's a worry! - I think it may have been in The strange case of Mrs Hudson's cat by Colin Bruce. Someone is

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-15 Thread LizR
On 16 March 2014 08:04, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote: This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape of ideas), but it has been on my mind recently. If you

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-15 Thread meekerdb
On 3/15/2014 7:02 PM, LizR wrote: On 16 March 2014 08:04, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote: This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to this topic, so I'm still

Re: Universal Programming

2014-03-15 Thread LizR
On 16 March 2014 15:38, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/15/2014 7:02 PM, LizR wrote: I tend to suppose the HP shows we live in a multiverse, so the possibilities within a given volume are proportional to the volume of the volume, but the ones realised in our branch of the MV are