Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-23 Thread John Mikes
Bruno wrote: of Whom? Conscious applies to person and they all have some I, even if they cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways. Here I am again in the dichotomy with Brent about 'alive' and 'life': 'conscious' and 'consciousness'! I arrived at the latter as response to relations

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 23 Sep 2013, at 21:44, John Mikes wrote: Bruno wrote: of Whom? Conscious applies to person and they all have some I, even if they cannot be sure what it is, and perceive it in many ways. Here I am again in the dichotomy with Brent about 'alive' and 'life': 'conscious' and

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Sep 2013, at 22:59, meekerdb wrote: On 9/21/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The content might be, There is a flying pink elephant in my room. which is both dubitable and almost certainly false. And if the thought is, I had a conscious thought. that too is dubitable. We

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-21 Thread Alberto G. Corona
The most interesting and less known work of Popper is the foundation of evolutionary epistemology http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology-evolutionary/ which is much more ambitious that falsacionism and mere demarcation and is far far more interesting. 2013/9/20 Bruno Marchal

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-21 Thread LizR
On 21 September 2013 12:15, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 9/20/2013 3:53 PM, LizR wrote: On 21 September 2013 05:48, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not falsifiable,

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Sep 2013, at 19:48, meekerdb wrote: On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not falsifiable, of course. That's a common point with consciousness here-and-now, which is not falsifiable nor doubtable, yet true (except

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-21 Thread meekerdb
On 9/21/2013 7:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: The content might be, There is a flying pink elephant in my room. which is both dubitable and almost certainly false. And if the thought is, I had a conscious thought. that too is dubitable. We agree on this. The indubitable thought is not I was

When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Chris, On 20 Sep 2013, at 02:45, chris peck wrote: Hi John It doesn't take a genius to realize that if a idea isn't getting anywhere, that is to say if it doesn't produce new interesting ideas, your time would be better spent doing something else. Whats with this idea that the

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-20 Thread meekerdb
On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not falsifiable, of course. That's a common point with consciousness here-and-now, which is not falsifiable nor doubtable, yet true (except for the zombies of course). OK? I think that

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-20 Thread LizR
On 21 September 2013 05:48, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not falsifiable, of course. That's a common point with consciousness here-and-now, which is not falsifiable nor

Re: When will Popperian come back.Re: What gives philosophers a bad name?

2013-09-20 Thread meekerdb
On 9/20/2013 3:53 PM, LizR wrote: On 21 September 2013 05:48, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 9/20/2013 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Note also that Truth, by definition cannot be Popperian: it is not falsifiable, of course. That's a common